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Post by Chris1863 on Mar 24, 2011 12:43:21 GMT
May I just add -- why is it called a Staffordshire derby when we play the dingles! Geography isn't my strong point but I know Wolverhampton isn't in Staffordshire! we are border line with eachother,maybe that's why ??? |
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Post by Will_75 on Mar 24, 2011 12:44:59 GMT
bang on, greyman
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Post by ParaPsych on Mar 24, 2011 12:45:36 GMT
Being considered part of the Midlands does at least mean I get the news from housewives' favourite Nick Owen and the weather from the lovely Shefali Oza.
Win win.
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Post by lordb on Mar 24, 2011 12:48:01 GMT
Wolverhapton & West Bronwich we're both in Staffordshire prior to the1974 changes when the West Midlands authority was created
Birmingham used to be in Warwickshire
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Post by sirpineapple89 on Mar 24, 2011 12:50:25 GMT
Yorkshire.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 24, 2011 12:59:49 GMT
Stoke is the centre of the Universe,the Big Bang happened in what is now the Stoke area. and ever since the rest of the Universe as moved on from Stoke.  |
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Post by checkmatestokie on Mar 24, 2011 13:05:30 GMT
I live on the North Staffordshire - South Cheshire Border (Just in Staffordshire)
However, although the official area of the so called Midlands includes all Staffordshire, I have always considered myself a North West Stokie.
There are a significant number of people in North Staffordshire who are tuned in to BBC North-West and Granada TV stations and in my opinion Stoke on Trent - at least from a cultural point of view, has more in common with Manchester and the North-West generally than anywhere in Birmingham or what is now known as the West Midlands.
Our problem is that we Stokies tend to be somewhat parochial and inward looking and really we don't belong to Birmingham or Manchester. Personally, nothing infuriates me more than being classed as in the same area as Birmingham and the Black Country conurbation although - I suppose, there are people in the south of the city who might feel the same about Manchester and Liverpool.
Having said that, I realise there's got to be a border line somewhere, but whether you watch Granada or Central - and up Mow Cop way you can tune in to both, neither of them give Stoke on Trent a fair hearing. They always seem to concentrate on Manchester, Liverpool or Birmingham and ignore us.
Still - we can manage without them and it's their loss!
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Post by lordb on Mar 24, 2011 13:08:24 GMT
at our old house in Wolstanton (this is 30 years ago now)
in the bedroom at the top of the house (obviously) used to be able to get Granada & ATV & also (sometimes) HTV (?) the old Welsh channel
does that make us North West,Welsh Midlanders?
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Post by Yorkshirepotter on Mar 24, 2011 13:12:42 GMT
You called? |
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Post by eddyclamp on Mar 24, 2011 13:13:47 GMT
at our old house in Wolstanton (this is 30 years ago now) in the bedroom at the top of the house (obviously) used to be able to get Granada & ATV & also (sometimes) HTV (?) the old Welsh channel does that make us North West,Welsh Midlanders? It makes you a sheep shaggin yam yam that breeds wippets |
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Post by stevetheboater on Mar 24, 2011 13:25:32 GMT
I think it is simply about TV coverage. Most of the City can only get Midlands TV (from Fenton.) Some places at the north end get North West TV as well. The map on this page shows the boundary, which is roughly a line from Congleton to Audlem, south of Crewe and Nantwich www.ukfree.tv/txdetail.php?a=SD660144 |
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Post by gzirastokie on Mar 24, 2011 16:28:54 GMT
North or North West is fine......midlands no way
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Post by heworksardtho on Mar 24, 2011 17:58:17 GMT
stoke twinned with basra , full of immigrants
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Post by bublinstu on Mar 24, 2011 19:02:56 GMT
Surely Stoke is in the Potteries - neither Midlands nor North West. Thats all sorted then |
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Post by brinewings on Mar 24, 2011 19:09:31 GMT
stoke twinned with basra , full of immigrants there aren't all that many immigrants in basra |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2011 19:26:01 GMT
Right heres my take.
If asked I always sat NORTH staffordshire...then North West...but now having travelled I think we belong in the North East....Steel ,Coal Manufacturing and a shed load of North Eastern Labour Types who took over the council....we should be twinned with Sunderland- the only place where the city centre is worse than Hanley
By the Way- in my job I once asked the Government Office Of the North West if Stoke could join and leave the West Mids- you should have seen their faces
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Post by beanthedogscfc on Mar 24, 2011 19:45:12 GMT
We'll be where we want, we'll be where we want, were Stoke on Trent and we'll be where we want ;D
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Post by RWChris on Mar 24, 2011 20:01:15 GMT
The North West technically consists of 5 counties...Cumbria, Lancashire, Greater Manchester, Merseyside and Cheshire.
Therefore S-o-T isn't technically in the NW.
As someone originating from Alsager though I can claim to be in the NW...just!
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Post by fentonstokie1 on Mar 24, 2011 20:53:15 GMT
we are not in the north west or the midlands WE ARE STOKE I was on a train years ago coming from Rhyl when a bunch of black country women got on, I was in conversaton with them and referred to them as brummies which upset them enough to call me a scouse bastard.  |
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Post by scfc75 on Mar 24, 2011 21:04:35 GMT
Google image search "map of west midlands". Almost all results include Staffordshire.
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Post by Boyceys been up the attic on Mar 24, 2011 21:15:44 GMT
Apparently we are "West Midlands" :/ But culturally we are in the North West |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2011 21:27:30 GMT
Culurally we are northern...we dont fit in our region and they dont want us....but North West dont either as they have too many problems already....we are the SNP......(Stoke National Party)
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Post by Homzy on Mar 24, 2011 21:27:41 GMT
My favourite debate this!!
I think the most crucial point, as Stokieboy31 and a few others have said, is that we're culturally north-west.
Go eight miles south to Stafford and the people are completely different, whereas the Mancs and Scousers are very similar to us. The towns look the same too and the demographics are similar. We've got far more in common with people from the north west than we have Brummies, Yam Yams etc.
Obviously there has to be a cut off point somewhere and it does make sense to start the north west from Cheshire, but I really wish they'd split Staffs into two counties (north and south) and include North Staffs as part of the north west.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2011 21:37:55 GMT
I think this is a really important thread- Stoke to me has always been diifferent from the West Mids but also the older I get its also different from the North West- it would fit perfectly into the North East
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Post by Homzy on Mar 24, 2011 21:40:11 GMT
I think this is a really important thread- Stoke to me has always been diifferent from the West Mids but also the older I get its also different from the North West- it would fit perfectly into the North East Why do you think it's different to the north west, out of interest? I lived in Liverpool for three years and have been in Manchester for three years and find both places very similar to Stoke. Obviously the industry is different but we're a bit unique in that respect. |
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Post by brinewings on Mar 24, 2011 21:42:39 GMT
I think this is a really important thread- Stoke to me has always been diifferent from the West Mids but also the older I get its also different from the North West- it would fit perfectly into the North East this is exactly right...we are very like the people in the north east. for those of you who think we are the north west, we do not exist to them - the mancs just dont even contemplate us at all, you are so wrong... |
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Post by Homzy on Mar 24, 2011 21:47:38 GMT
I think this is a really important thread- Stoke to me has always been diifferent from the West Mids but also the older I get its also different from the North West- it would fit perfectly into the North East this is exactly right...we are very like the people in the north east. for those of you who think we are the north west, we do not exist to them - the mancs just dont even contemplate us at all, you are so wrong... A lot of Scousers refer to us as plastic Scousers or Stoke as little Liverpool. We've got an unbelievable amount in common with them. All my mates in Manc class Stoke as a Northern town too. |
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Post by doitforever on Mar 24, 2011 21:49:12 GMT
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Post by murphy on Mar 24, 2011 22:17:16 GMT
Always been an interesting debate this,we have always been a city with no regional identity.As was said earlier we are unique in that we are a distr
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Post by murphy on Mar 24, 2011 22:36:26 GMT
oops !!....we are a district that is not really wanted by anyone else, which is something that makes us fiercely proud and defensive of our people and football team.
That said, I work in the West Midlands and the North West, and feel that we have much more in common with the North West, and I do not regard myself as living in the West Midlands. I can be at Manchester airport in haf an hour,we are offered GP referrals to Cheshire hospitals etc, but really, it all depends on what you are happy with. We are Stoke,and it might be a sh-t hole, but its my sh-t hole and I love it.
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