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Post by crowey on Dec 19, 2010 4:05:46 GMT
Around 9am here, 10am in Melbourne
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Post by Chunky Lover! on Dec 19, 2010 5:52:19 GMT
Anyone know what time the next test will start? was told around midnight Play starts 23.30 each days Sessions 23.30 - 01.30 02.10 - 04.10 04.30 - 06.30 (possibl extension to 07.00) |
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Post by andyscfc09 on Dec 19, 2010 6:07:47 GMT
Anyone know what time the next test will start? was told around midnight Play starts 23.30 each days Sessions 23.30 - 01.30 02.10 - 04.10 04.30 - 06.30 (possibl extension to 07.00) cheers mate not missed any yet didnt want to start now lol |
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 19, 2010 6:50:21 GMT
Ifiot rains for five days in Melbourne, then for five days in Sydney, we keep the ashes!!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 19, 2010 15:49:27 GMT
This will hopefully be the wake up call they need. I didn't like the positiveness coming out of the camp. Prior- "we don't want to lose a game on the tour" shut up man, be modest, You're not that good.  A lovely wake up call and a kick up the bum. |
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Post by PickSCFC on Dec 19, 2010 15:55:13 GMT
I would serious think about dropping Collingwood, he looks shit these days
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 19, 2010 15:58:27 GMT
The problem with that though is who do we use as a fifth bowler? That and his fielding is probably what are keeping him in the team.
Saying that Bell has done some bowling for Warwickshire but England never seem to use him, is he that bad?
In domestic cricket he has 47 wickets at 33.27, that's not that shabby is it?
He has a test wicket too. Youssuf Youhana (Mohamed Youssuf) no less.
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Post by bettsy on Dec 19, 2010 16:29:20 GMT
when was the last time we retained the ashes?
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Post by sgtpotter89 on Dec 19, 2010 17:31:56 GMT
The problem with that though is who do we use as a fifth bowler? That and his fielding is probably what are keeping him in the team. Saying that Bell has done some bowling for Warwickshire but England never seem to use him, is he that bad? In domestic cricket he has 47 wickets at 33.27, that's not that shabby is it? He has a test wicket too. Youssuf Youhana (Mohamed Youssuf) no less. He's even slower than Colly so he'd just get tapped, that's probably why he isn't used as a bowler |
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Post by scfc11 on Dec 19, 2010 17:41:28 GMT
So have we lost?
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Post by sgtpotter89 on Dec 19, 2010 18:12:53 GMT
Yes. The score is 1-1 with 2 Tests to play |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 19, 2010 18:16:50 GMT
The problem with that though is who do we use as a fifth bowler? That and his fielding is probably what are keeping him in the team. Saying that Bell has done some bowling for Warwickshire but England never seem to use him, is he that bad? In domestic cricket he has 47 wickets at 33.27, that's not that shabby is it? He has a test wicket too. Youssuf Youhana (Mohamed Youssuf) no less. He's even slower than Colly so he'd just get tapped, that's probably why he isn't used as a bowler Probably so but we need a 5th bowler and KP seems reluctant to bowl and then we have? It's a pretty piss poor reason to keep Collingwood in the team but that's the dilemma of having 4 bowlers. |
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Post by PickSCFC on Dec 19, 2010 18:19:28 GMT
The problem with that though is who do we use as a fifth bowler? That and his fielding is probably what are keeping him in the team. Saying that Bell has done some bowling for Warwickshire but England never seem to use him, is he that bad? In domestic cricket he has 47 wickets at 33.27, that's not that shabby is it? He has a test wicket too. Youssuf Youhana (Mohamed Youssuf) no less. Collingwood isnt a threat as a bowler so just picking for that would be wrong. Bell hasnt bowled for ages now so he must have gone off but Trott, Pietersen can get through a few overs. Colly is in for his batting and hes failing miserably at it |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 19, 2010 18:23:18 GMT
The problem with that though is who do we use as a fifth bowler? That and his fielding is probably what are keeping him in the team. Saying that Bell has done some bowling for Warwickshire but England never seem to use him, is he that bad? In domestic cricket he has 47 wickets at 33.27, that's not that shabby is it? He has a test wicket too. Youssuf Youhana (Mohamed Youssuf) no less. Collingwood isnt a threat as a bowler so just picking for that would be wrong. Bell hasnt bowled for ages now so he must have gone off but Trott, Pietersen can get through a few overs. Colly is in for his batting and hes failing miserably at it But his bowling will come into consideration I reckon because of the nature and balance of our team. Why hasn't Bell bowled though? Because he hasn't for Warwickshire much but they are decent figures. |
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Post by PickSCFC on Dec 19, 2010 18:30:28 GMT
Collingwood isnt a threat as a bowler so just picking for that would be wrong. Bell hasnt bowled for ages now so he must have gone off but Trott, Pietersen can get through a few overs. Colly is in for his batting and hes failing miserably at it But his bowling will come into consideration I reckon because of the nature and balance of our team. Why hasn't Bell bowled though? Because he hasn't for Warwickshire much but they are decent figures. I dont know mate but if the selecters are picking coll because he can bowl a bit then they are wrong to do so, he bowls about 6 overs an innings, trott and kp could do that |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 19, 2010 18:33:22 GMT
They could but Colly seems to be the man for the job at the minute. Personally I'd let KP bowl more because he's decent but has admitted himself that he hates it and won't practise it. I always rated Vaughany as a bowler too and he never bowled himself.  |
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Post by sgtpotter89 on Dec 19, 2010 19:38:58 GMT
They could but Colly seems to be the man for the job at the minute. Personally I'd let KP bowl more because he's decent but has admitted himself that he hates it and won't practise it. I always rated Vaughany as a bowler too and he never bowled himself. Yeh Vaughany was an underrated bowler. Shame KP never really tried to hone his off spinning as he does give it a good rip. I think they want Colly in the team, mainly due to his dogged determination and that he's one of the best fielders in the world. I don't think Morgan is the answer either, he's a world class T20 and ODI player but i'm yet to be convinced by him at Test level, he's not tight enough in and around his off stump in my opinion. I think we should bring Shahzad or Bresnan in for Finn. Also I think we should adjust the batting order, put Bell up to 4, KP 5 and Colly to 6. Strauss and Flower would never do it, the batting order will stay as it is I think |
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Post by Cityfullergoals on Dec 19, 2010 20:10:26 GMT
Pieterson was actually a bowler who batted at number eight when he was in South Africa
In fairness, the bowlers have got us in a position to win another test, but its the shortcomings in the batting that have cost us in Perth
Does make for an interesting time over Christmas and New Year now though
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Post by sgtpotter89 on Dec 19, 2010 20:23:12 GMT
Pieterson was actually a bowler who batted at number eight when he was in South Africa
In fairness, the bowlers have got us in a position to win another test, but its the shortcomings in the batting that have cost us in Perth
Does make for an interesting time over Christmas and New Year now though Yeh I remember KP playing against England in our 1999/00 tour of South Africa and he asked Nasser if he could get him a contract in England, Nasser declined. It's Finn's economy rate that worries me, over 4 an hour for the series so far, but he is the leading wicket taker in the series so far as well so Strauss and Flower are stuck between a rock and a hard place over Finn I feel. |
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Post by PickSCFC on Dec 19, 2010 22:18:57 GMT
They could but Colly seems to be the man for the job at the minute. Personally I'd let KP bowl more because he's decent but has admitted himself that he hates it and won't practise it. I always rated Vaughany as a bowler too and he never bowled himself. Yeh Vaughany was an underrated bowler. Shame KP never really tried to hone his off spinning as he does give it a good rip. I think they want Colly in the team, mainly due to his dogged determination and that he's one of the best fielders in the world. I don't think Morgan is the answer either, he's a world class T20 and ODI player but i'm yet to be convinced by him at Test level, he's not tight enough in and around his off stump in my opinion. I think we should bring Shahzad or Bresnan in for Finn. Also I think we should adjust the batting order, put Bell up to 4, KP 5 and Colly to 6. Strauss and Flower would never do it, the batting order will stay as it is I think I would like to see Hildreth given a chance soon, he got something like 7 tons last season I think and he bats middle order, like you i arnt convinced with Morgan for test matches |
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Post by sgtpotter89 on Dec 19, 2010 23:22:52 GMT
Yeh Vaughany was an underrated bowler. Shame KP never really tried to hone his off spinning as he does give it a good rip. I think they want Colly in the team, mainly due to his dogged determination and that he's one of the best fielders in the world. I don't think Morgan is the answer either, he's a world class T20 and ODI player but i'm yet to be convinced by him at Test level, he's not tight enough in and around his off stump in my opinion. I think we should bring Shahzad or Bresnan in for Finn. Also I think we should adjust the batting order, put Bell up to 4, KP 5 and Colly to 6. Strauss and Flower would never do it, the batting order will stay as it is I think I would like to see Hildreth given a chance soon, he got something like 7 tons last season I think and he bats middle order, like you i arnt convinced with Morgan for test matches Yeh I agree over Hildreth. I've only seen him play a few times in T20 and FP40 games and he certainly looks a very good player in a very good Somerset team and he has the County Championship stats to back it up as well. There's a few exciting youngsters coming through the ranks of county cricket to perhaps rival our current crop in the next few years or so, i.e. James Taylor from Leicestershire, Jos Buttler from Somerset, Jonny Bairstow from Yorkshire, Danny Briggs from Hampshire, Chris Woakes from Warwickshire and James Vince from Hampshire. I've seen them all play and they all look very talented from what i've seen and heard. James Vince is one Duncan Fletcher said reminded him of Vaughan and having seen him play you do notice it straight away. So certainly some very exciting talent coming through the ranks of our county sides, which is always great to see, something you rarely see in football nowadays. If the above players carried on performing the way they have been there is no reason why at least 2 or 3 of them aren't on the next Ashes tour in 2014/15 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 20, 2010 1:38:44 GMT
Yeh Vaughany was an underrated bowler. Shame KP never really tried to hone his off spinning as he does give it a good rip. I think they want Colly in the team, mainly due to his dogged determination and that he's one of the best fielders in the world. I don't think Morgan is the answer either, he's a world class T20 and ODI player but i'm yet to be convinced by him at Test level, he's not tight enough in and around his off stump in my opinion. I think we should bring Shahzad or Bresnan in for Finn. Also I think we should adjust the batting order, put Bell up to 4, KP 5 and Colly to 6. Strauss and Flower would never do it, the batting order will stay as it is I think I would like to see Hildreth given a chance soon, he got something like 7 tons last season I think and he bats middle order, like you i arnt convinced with Morgan for test matches Hildreth has hit some big runs with the performance team over there too hasn't he? |
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Post by PickSCFC on Dec 20, 2010 1:57:43 GMT
I would like to see Hildreth given a chance soon, he got something like 7 tons last season I think and he bats middle order, like you i arnt convinced with Morgan for test matches Hildreth has hit some big runs with the performance team over there too hasn't he? Yeah think he got a double ton, he is a fine player and hes at the right kind of age now |
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Post by tazi on Dec 21, 2010 10:32:46 GMT
England should fuck Peiterson off home and let him twitter as much as he wants.
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Post by Chunky Lover! on Dec 21, 2010 10:51:59 GMT
Morgan definitely not a test player IMO, his technique is too loose.
One thing in Collingwood's favour is his attitude and persona on the pitch, he is one of the on-field leaders and helps the skipper out big time
Hildreth ain't a bad shout but I still think there is time for Bopara. Also don't think Jimmy Adams from Hampshire can be too far away(In world cup prelim 30)
Did anyone say Ramprakash???? :-p
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Post by sgtpotter89 on Dec 21, 2010 14:08:57 GMT
Did anyone say Ramprakash???? :-p Well Australia was the only team he ever turned up against in Tests  |
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Post by Cityfullergoals on Dec 24, 2010 12:37:47 GMT
Ponting almost certain to play as Australia are more than likely unchanged
Collingwood to stay at 5, and Bell at 6, but maybe Bresnan in for Finn
Bring it on
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Post by sgtpotter89 on Dec 24, 2010 15:46:51 GMT
Ponting almost certain to play as Australia are more than likely unchanged
Collingwood to stay at 5, and Bell at 6, but maybe Bresnan in for Finn
Bring it on
"There was a little bit of weariness after that Test, but no cause for concern in terms of fitness for this one," Strauss said of Finn.Strauss seems to be hinting here that Finn will play. I'm not that bothered either way to be honest |
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Post by apb1979 on Dec 25, 2010 23:11:23 GMT
So we are bowling. Interesting call to drop Finn & play Bresnan.
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Post by sgtpotter89 on Dec 25, 2010 23:18:46 GMT
Always a risk putting the opposition in, but if we start well like we did at Adelaide and Perth then we could be in business. As a Yorkshire fan it's good to see Bresnan in the team and on a pitch that would suit him more than Finn plus he adds the ability to bowl reverse swing and of course his batting is a plus as well
CMON ENGLAND!!!!!!!!!
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A lovely wake up call and a kick up the bum. 
