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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 29, 2008 20:08:01 GMT
Here's my effort: Dear Sir I write to you in connection with the Sheffield Wednesday v Stoke City fixture played this afternoon (29.3.08) In a week where we have just passed the loan deadline, we were all aware that there is a maximum of five loanees allowed in the matchday squad. Adhering to the rules, Stoke City dropped Paul Gallagher and Gabriel Zakuani from the matchday 16 (on loan from Blackburn and Fulham respectively) Sheffield Wednesday named SIX loanees in there squad: Frank Songo'o (Portsmouth), Bartosz Slusarski (West Brom), Graham Kavanagh (Sunderland), Adam Bolder (QPR), Ben Sahar (Chelsea) and Enoch Showumni (Bristol City). With Stoke on their way to an important victory (in their quest to a very welcome money spinning promotion to the Premier League) they were denied all three points through a strike from one of the six loanees (Songo'o) I point you to the following rule: 47.3.1 A maximum of 5 loan Players (either Short Term or Long Term) can be named in the sixteen Players listed on a team sheet for any individual Match. This figure shall include any additional loan of a goalkeeper approved by the Executive under the provisions of Regulation 49. This is a clear breach of the rules set down at the start of the campaign. Unless you take strong action, we could see many clubs across the country breaking the rules in a similar fashion over the coming weeks. I urge you to think seriously about the punishment before another team suffers in the same way as Stoke City have done today. Perhaps the punishment will be an award of all three points to Stoke, similar to that if a team were to have four players sent off (3-0 victory) I eagerly anticipate your thoughts on this matter Kind Regards James Knowles, Eccleshall Harsh but fair, Knowlesy
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Post by knowles on Mar 29, 2008 20:09:33 GMT
Has anyone rung 6-0-6 yet?
I don't mind doing it- whats the number?
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Post by petershiltonsmini on Mar 29, 2008 20:10:09 GMT
This is very interesting but I don't believe we will get 3 points out of this the FA would not have the balls can you imagine the complaints from the other teams at the top.
Still unlikely the best we could hope for is a replay again given the hastle this would cause it wont happen and the FA will find away to worm out of it.
Lets just accept we have been wronged but we will get nothing more out of this.
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Post by serpico on Mar 29, 2008 20:11:33 GMT
Has anyone rung 6-0-6 yet? I don't mind doing it- whats the number? 0500 909 693
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Post by milton potteress on Mar 29, 2008 20:12:55 GMT
This is very interesting but I don't believe we will get 3 points out of this the FA would not have the balls can you imagine the complaints from the other teams at the top. Still unlikely the best we could hope for is a replay again given the hastle this would cause it wont happen and the FA will find away to worm out of it. Lets just accept we have been wronged but we will get nothing more out of this. Er no!! This is a severe breach of rules and there is no way this should be let to lie - Stoke City in my opinion should take all the points from this match due to that breach of rules!
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Post by Stick It On Cort's Head on Mar 29, 2008 20:13:33 GMT
I frankly don't believe we deserve 3 points from this just because they've included one extra loanman in their squad, they played 5 on the pitch at a time. At the end of the day, we didn't take our chances, our defence backed off, turned their backs, and Wednesday scored. Live with it,the MOST they will get is a 100,000 pound fine
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Post by jezzascfc on Mar 29, 2008 20:15:12 GMT
Surely the fairest thing to do is replay the game with both teams fielding a legal squad of 16? To fine them does not seek to recompense us in any way for the fact that we were unfairly prejudiced by their rule breaking?
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Post by Stick It On Cort's Head on Mar 29, 2008 20:17:25 GMT
Surely the fairest thing to do is replay the game with both teams fielding a legal squad of 16? To fine them does not seek to recompense us in any way for the fact that we were unfairly prejudiced by their rule breaking? Fat chance of that happening. Good idea though jezza ;D
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Post by knowles on Mar 29, 2008 20:17:59 GMT
Can't get through to 6-0-6, it finishes at half 8 I think
Sent them a text in the hope they ring me back ???
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Post by milton potteress on Mar 29, 2008 20:18:20 GMT
We didnt break the rules = and they did!! end of!!
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Post by Stick It On Cort's Head on Mar 29, 2008 20:18:52 GMT
We didn't take our chances.
They did.
End of!
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 29, 2008 20:20:04 GMT
We didn't take our chances. They did. End of! True. We probably don't deserve anything. Totally seperate point to their flagrant rule breach though, SIOCH.
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Post by Dannyboy on Mar 29, 2008 20:20:43 GMT
there fans put themselves in shit by saying it on radio sheffield
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Post by milton potteress on Mar 29, 2008 20:21:26 GMT
agreed grapey!!
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Post by s7oke on Mar 29, 2008 20:22:57 GMT
fuckin hell knowles that deserves karma ave it
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Post by Vodkab1ock on Mar 29, 2008 20:23:05 GMT
SOICH but if they survive relegation by 1 point dont you think the other teams are going to be fuming over this?
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Post by markscfc72 on Mar 29, 2008 20:23:38 GMT
i have sent this to football league and also to sky sports news
hi there
sheffield wednesday fielded 6 loan players in there 16 man squad, the rule quite clearly states that you are only allowed to field 5. We (Stoke City) had to leave out Paul Gallagher and Gabriel Zakuani who are on loan and would have at least been on the bench had we been aloowed to have more than 5 loanees in the squad. It seems absolutley pointless having these rules if they are going to be broken, when they are broken the team in question should be severely punished, it shouldnt just be a small fine which wont hurt them, otherwise it will encourage other teams to break the rules.
for the record the 6 loan players they had in there squad were
Graham Kavanagh (on loan from sunderland) Adam Bolder (on loan from QPR) Enoch Showunmi (On loan from bristol city) Franck Songo'o (On loan from Portsmouth) Ben Sahar (On loan from Chelsea) Bartosz Slusarski (On loan from West Brom)
could you please look into this and find out why they thought it would be ok to break the rules
Many Thanks
Mark Roberts!
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Post by Stick It On Cort's Head on Mar 29, 2008 20:23:39 GMT
Surely the fairest thing to do is replay the game with both teams fielding a legal squad of 16? To fine them does not seek to recompense us in any way for the fact that we were unfairly prejudiced by their rule breaking? This world isn't "FAIR" though is it, just ask people in Africa who have no food or water. I would be AMAZED if we were given any sort of compensation for this(ie money).
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Post by knowles on Mar 29, 2008 20:23:52 GMT
fuckin hell knowles that deserves karma ave it The people deserve to know!!
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Post by Stick It On Cort's Head on Mar 29, 2008 20:24:59 GMT
SOICH but if they survive relegation by 1 point dont you think the other teams are going to be fuming over this? No, because they have been shite throughout the season and deserve to bloody well go down. Sheff Wed will go down anyway.
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Post by knowles on Mar 29, 2008 20:26:26 GMT
Bastards didn't mention it! Grrr..
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Post by Vodkab1ock on Mar 29, 2008 20:28:33 GMT
well i am 100% sure Stoke will of contacted the Football League over this, and i hope that the other teams around relegation are made aware of this fact and also contact the football league also i feel its are best chance of anything happening in are favour. if they are just fined then i hope next week at home we do the same shit.
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Post by potters11 on Mar 29, 2008 20:30:36 GMT
Wednesday did break the rules, without a question of a doubt. They should face, losing the match, points deduction and a fine...but we all know that they will only face a fine!
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Post by Vodkab1ock on Mar 29, 2008 20:30:50 GMT
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Post by jezzascfc on Mar 29, 2008 20:31:10 GMT
Knowlesy, hope you don't mind but I have tweaked your email to send my own:
I write to you in connection with the Sheffield Wednesday v Stoke City fixture played this afternoon (29th March 2008)
In a week where we have just passed the loan deadline, and with Stoke City now having seven loanees on their books, we Stoke supporters have been talking about which five will make the matchday squad, given that we were aware that a maximum of five loanees only is allowed in the sixteen players. Adhering to the rules, Stoke City left out Paul Gallagher and Gabriel Zakuani from the matchday squad (on loan from Blackburn and Fulham respectively). However, Sheffield Wednesday named SIX loanees in there squad: Frank Songo'o (Portsmouth), Bartosz Slusarski (West Brom), Graham Kavanagh (Sunderland), Adam Bolder (QPR), Ben Sahar (Chelsea) and Enoch Showumni (Bristol City).
With Stoke on their way to a very important victory, they were denied all three points through a strike from one of the six loanees (Songo'o).
I point you to the following rule of the Football League:
”47.3.1 A maximum of 5 loan Players (either Short Term or Long Term) can be named in the sixteen Players listed on a team sheet for any individual Match. This figure shall include any additional loan of a goalkeeper approved by the Executive under the provisions of Regulation 49.”
What Sheffield Wednesday have done today is a clear breach of the rules of the league in which they compete. Perhaps the punishment should be an award of all three points to Stoke, given the fact that the opposition did not field a legitimate squad today? Surely the very least that should occur is a replay of the game with both teams fielding a legal squad of 16? To merely fine Sheffield Wednesday would not seek to recompense Stoke City, or the teams which are battling with Wednesday to avoid relegation, in any way for the fact that we have all been unfairly prejudiced by their rule breaking?
I look forward to your reply.
Kind Regards
Jeremy Leese
Lawyer and Stoke City supporter
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Post by Vodkab1ock on Mar 29, 2008 20:32:09 GMT
Wednesday did break the rules, without a question of a doubt. They should face, losing the match, points deduction and a fine...but we all know that they will only face a fine! but its the fact the have gained an advantage over other teams in the league by breaking this rule, you can tell by how many posts i've made on this subject that i truly believe we got a great chance of been awarded the win on this.
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Post by serpico on Mar 29, 2008 20:33:10 GMT
They should throw the book at them, especially since one of the players in question scored the equalizing goal, that could cost us automatic promotion.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Mar 29, 2008 20:34:41 GMT
"Lawyer and Stoke City supporter" Nice touch. ;D
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 29, 2008 20:35:06 GMT
It's a schoolboy error from someone at Wednesday.
The fact we actually haad to leave 2 players out of our first choice 16 to comply with this proves the point - and the advantage they've gained on the rest of the field.
If they get a little fine, all bets are off and we should field all 7 of our loanees until the end of the season.
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Post by serpico on Mar 29, 2008 20:36:38 GMT
Yep, if they just get a 2k fine then we should breach the rules every week from now till the end of the season, money well spent.
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