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Post by PickSCFC on Nov 4, 2010 15:38:27 GMT
nope, none on here gave a fuck about pennant winning a free kick for nowt at the end of the villa game, we got shafted last season against them when mama scored a good goal, same ref who rubbed tuncays off decided to call a foul, so we deserved a bot of luck Paranoia like this seems a complete Oatcake epidemic atm. As I said, as a neutral, I have only seen Stoke has genuine cause for upraor regarding getting "shafted" once this season at least and that was against Man Utd when ever Gary Neville knew he should have been sent off, although even then there was a lot of football to be played against a quality side. It would seem to me that two of your three wins have come courtesy of a piece of very good fortune. Pennant being able to con the ref, twice, against Villa, and James Perch heading into his own top corner uncontested against Newcastle, yet all you hear on here is about bad luck and Stoke getting shafted. None of us like refereeing decisions when they go against us. You think we were sitting there thinking how wonderful Attwel was at Anfield? Or pick any one of the three red cards we have had this season and I'll tell you the referee got it badly wrong and cost us points, but that's football, and Stoke don't find themselves on the wrong end of it anymore than the rest of us (big boys not included). your talking bollocks mate whats perchs own goal got to do with anything? it wasnt a bad decision from officials or anything it was just an own goal we get fuck all decisions given to us on the whole |
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Post by maxs on Nov 4, 2010 15:40:35 GMT
Getting back to the score.
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Post by captainfishpaste on Nov 4, 2010 15:45:20 GMT
Paranoia like this seems a complete Oatcake epidemic atm. As I said, as a neutral, I have only seen Stoke has genuine cause for upraor regarding getting "shafted" once this season at least and that was against Man Utd when ever Gary Neville knew he should have been sent off, although even then there was a lot of football to be played against a quality side. It would seem to me that two of your three wins have come courtesy of a piece of very good fortune. Pennant being able to con the ref, twice, against Villa, and James Perch heading into his own top corner uncontested against Newcastle, yet all you hear on here is about bad luck and Stoke getting shafted. None of us like refereeing decisions when they go against us. You think we were sitting there thinking how wonderful Attwel was at Anfield? Or pick any one of the three red cards we have had this season and I'll tell you the referee got it badly wrong and cost us points, but that's football, and Stoke don't find themselves on the wrong end of it anymore than the rest of us (big boys not included). your talking bollocks mate whats perchs own goal got to do with anything? it wasnt a bad decision from officials or anything it was just an own goal we get fuck all decisions given to us on the whole Perch sticking on in his own top corner for you whilst under no pressure was very good luck. The referee deciding to make your game against Everton a complete no-contact sport for 15 minutes (for both teams) turned out to be very bad luck. If you don't think that what you percieve to be bad refereeing decisions are bad fortune, then you must think that they are trying to purposely screw Stoke, and that would point to a far more worrying level of paranoia. I can't think of a single gimme from the refs that we have had all season. Not a single occasion when I think we have been very lucky to get a decision, but I can think of just as many occasions of shit decisions going against us as you can think of for Stoke. But that's the game and none of us are objective. On here lately it has almost as if you lot have been making excuses why you are going to lose a game before a ball has even been kicked. |
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Post by nickscfc on Nov 4, 2010 15:45:41 GMT
nope, none on here gave a fuck about pennant winning a free kick for nowt at the end of the villa game, we got shafted last season against them when mama scored a good goal, same ref who rubbed tuncays off decided to call a foul, so we deserved a bot of luck Paranoia like this seems a complete Oatcake epidemic atm. As I said, as a neutral, I have only seen Stoke has genuine cause for upraor regarding getting "shafted" once this season at least and that was against Man Utd when ever Gary Neville knew he should have been sent off, although even then there was a lot of football to be played against a quality side. It would seem to me that two of your three wins have come courtesy of a piece of very good fortune. Pennant being able to con the ref, twice, against Villa, and James Perch heading into his own top corner uncontested against Newcastle, yet all you hear on here is about bad luck and Stoke getting shafted. None of us like refereeing decisions when they go against us. You think we were sitting there thinking how wonderful Attwel was at Anfield? Or pick any one of the three red cards we have had this season and I'll tell you the referee got it badly wrong and cost us points, but that's football, and Stoke don't find themselves on the wrong end of it anymore than the rest of us (big boys not included). Yes fishpaste...with respect to Sunderland...these days we are probably a better footballing side than yourselves...or at least on a par. Yet for some reason Stoke has this ridiculous "label" for being dirty....and its working against us re. ref's decisions. Yes you can look at Perch own goal and Pennant diving but those arent really blatant decisions....we are talking about stone wall goals here....2 already this season....Walters scores a goal and Tuncay scores a goal....disallowed for ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD REASON. These arent decisions that are tough....sorry but they are absolutely fucking obvious...we could see miles away in the stands that Jon Walters scores a perfectly good goal and as for Tuncay's that was equally as shocking a decision. The bloke was falling down before Tuncay even touched him. I dont like moaning about ref's and used to get a little annoyed of Tone often using that as an excuse for a poor performance last season. But this season its being taken way too far. Wengers comments, Murphy's etc are affecting decisions on the pitch...and its a disgrace to be fair. I'm a little baffled by why Stoke, Blackburn and Wolves are labelled the premier league thugs yet yourselves are hardly easy on the eye....this whole labelling thing has to stop, manager's and players need to stop influencing refereeing decisions...because there is no running away from it...the ref cost us a point and possibly more against Everton...and points against Spurs a couple of months back. And its ok saying Everton would have had a penalty....but they wouldnt would they...because the whole flow of a game changes...our tactics would immedietely change if Tunny's goal is given...and we wouldnt be piling men forward looking for an equaliser. Official's are costing us points and its got to stop. There's no 2 ways about it. |
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Post by captainfishpaste on Nov 4, 2010 16:01:22 GMT
Paranoia like this seems a complete Oatcake epidemic atm. As I said, as a neutral, I have only seen Stoke has genuine cause for upraor regarding getting "shafted" once this season at least and that was against Man Utd when ever Gary Neville knew he should have been sent off, although even then there was a lot of football to be played against a quality side. It would seem to me that two of your three wins have come courtesy of a piece of very good fortune. Pennant being able to con the ref, twice, against Villa, and James Perch heading into his own top corner uncontested against Newcastle, yet all you hear on here is about bad luck and Stoke getting shafted. None of us like refereeing decisions when they go against us. You think we were sitting there thinking how wonderful Attwel was at Anfield? Or pick any one of the three red cards we have had this season and I'll tell you the referee got it badly wrong and cost us points, but that's football, and Stoke don't find themselves on the wrong end of it anymore than the rest of us (big boys not included). Yes fishpaste...with respect to Sunderland...these days we are probably a better footballing side than yourselves...or at least on a par. Yet for some reason Stoke has this ridiculous "label" for being dirty....and its working against us re. ref's decisions. Yes you can look at Perch own goal and Pennant diving but those arent really blatant decisions....we are talking about stone wall goals here....2 already this season....Walters scores a goal and Tuncay scores a goal....disallowed for ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD REASON. These arent decisions that are tough....sorry but they are absolutely fucking obvious...we could see miles away in the stands that Jon Walters scores a perfectly good goal and as for Tuncay's that was equally as shocking a decision. The bloke was falling down before Tuncay even touched him. I dont like moaning about ref's and used to get a little annoyed of Tone often using that as an excuse for a poor performance last season. But this season its being taken way too far. Wengers comments, Murphy's etc are affecting decisions on the pitch...and its a disgrace to be fair. I'm a little baffled by why Stoke, Blackburn and Wolves are labelled the premier league thugs yet yourselves are hardly easy on the eye....this whole labelling thing has to stop, manager's and players need to stop influencing refereeing decisions...because there is no running away from it...the ref cost us a point and possibly more against Everton...and points against Spurs a couple of months back. And its ok saying Everton would have had a penalty....but they wouldnt would they...because the whole flow of a game changes...our tactics would immedietely change if Tunny's goal is given...and we wouldnt be piling men forward looking for an equaliser. Official's are costing us points and its got to stop. There's no 2 ways about it. Wenger's hate campaign against Stoke (incidentally, Arsenal this season were easily the dirtiest side I have seen at the Sol for a good few years) and Murphy's bullshit have certainly created a seige mentality regarding referees on here. Paranoia possibly, even. But, again, I have to stress that you are not being treated any differently to us or probably any one of another half a dozen clubs in this league. I don't think there is a simgle club outside the big boys who haven't had a good and justified moan about at least one refereeing decision this season. It's a level playing field for us all. Officials are costing us ALL points. |
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Post by PickSCFC on Nov 4, 2010 16:07:53 GMT
Yes fishpaste...with respect to Sunderland...these days we are probably a better footballing side than yourselves...or at least on a par. Yet for some reason Stoke has this ridiculous "label" for being dirty....and its working against us re. ref's decisions. Yes you can look at Perch own goal and Pennant diving but those arent really blatant decisions....we are talking about stone wall goals here....2 already this season....Walters scores a goal and Tuncay scores a goal....disallowed for ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD REASON. These arent decisions that are tough....sorry but they are absolutely fucking obvious...we could see miles away in the stands that Jon Walters scores a perfectly good goal and as for Tuncay's that was equally as shocking a decision. The bloke was falling down before Tuncay even touched him. I dont like moaning about ref's and used to get a little annoyed of Tone often using that as an excuse for a poor performance last season. But this season its being taken way too far. Wengers comments, Murphy's etc are affecting decisions on the pitch...and its a disgrace to be fair. I'm a little baffled by why Stoke, Blackburn and Wolves are labelled the premier league thugs yet yourselves are hardly easy on the eye....this whole labelling thing has to stop, manager's and players need to stop influencing refereeing decisions...because there is no running away from it...the ref cost us a point and possibly more against Everton...and points against Spurs a couple of months back. And its ok saying Everton would have had a penalty....but they wouldnt would they...because the whole flow of a game changes...our tactics would immedietely change if Tunny's goal is given...and we wouldnt be piling men forward looking for an equaliser. Official's are costing us points and its got to stop. There's no 2 ways about it. Wenger's hate campaign against Stoke (incidentally, Arsenal this season were easily the dirtiest side I have seen at the Sol for a good few years) and Murphy's bullshit have certainly created a seige mentality regarding referees on here. Paranoia possibly, even. But, again, I have to stress that you are not being treated any differently to us or probably any one of another half a dozen clubs in this league. I don't think there is a simgle club outside the big boys who haven't had a good and justified moan about at least one refereeing decision this season. It's a level playing field for us all. Officials are costing us ALL points. we are pissed off after nearly every game though about refs |
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 4, 2010 16:24:45 GMT
nope, none on here gave a fuck about pennant winning a free kick for nowt at the end of the villa game, we got shafted last season against them when mama scored a good goal, same ref who rubbed tuncays off decided to call a foul, so we deserved a bot of luck Paranoia like this seems a complete Oatcake epidemic atm. As I said, as a neutral, I have only seen Stoke has genuine cause for upraor regarding getting "shafted" once this season at least and that was against Man Utd when ever Gary Neville knew he should have been sent off, although even then there was a lot of football to be played against a quality side. It would seem to me that two of your three wins have come courtesy of a piece of very good fortune. Pennant being able to con the ref, twice, against Villa, and James Perch heading into his own top corner uncontested against Newcastle, yet all you hear on here is about bad luck and Stoke getting shafted. None of us like refereeing decisions when they go against us. You think we were sitting there thinking how wonderful Attwel was at Anfield? Or pick any one of the three red cards we have had this season and I'll tell you the referee got it badly wrong and cost us points, but that's football, and Stoke don't find themselves on the wrong end of it anymore than the rest of us (big boys not included). I'll be honest captain, I hate refereeing conspiracy theories. They're usually nonsense. As I've said elsewhere, in our first season after promotion, almost every Rooney swinging an elbow at Faye was cancelled out with a Danny Pugh punching the ball off the line at the Stadium of Light. This year, things are noticeably different. It's not just the big incidents like Gary Neville's second bookable offence. It's the little things, the little incidents. You rarely see a referee apply the law consistently in matches featuring us any more. It's there, it's probably inadvertent and Wenger is probably mostly to blame. By the way, when did Pennant con the ref twice? I can understand you saying once, but I don't get twice? For the record, I'm pleased to report that TP seemed to have a word with Pennant after the Villa game and he's been far more reluctant to go to ground since then. |
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Post by captainfishpaste on Nov 4, 2010 16:25:28 GMT
Wenger's hate campaign against Stoke (incidentally, Arsenal this season were easily the dirtiest side I have seen at the Sol for a good few years) and Murphy's bullshit have certainly created a seige mentality regarding referees on here. Paranoia possibly, even. But, again, I have to stress that you are not being treated any differently to us or probably any one of another half a dozen clubs in this league. I don't think there is a simgle club outside the big boys who haven't had a good and justified moan about at least one refereeing decision this season. It's a level playing field for us all. Officials are costing us ALL points. we are pissed off after nearly every game though about refs Just seems you are pissed off about refs period. Just let it go and move on. Two decent teams plyaing tomorrow both with players of genuine quality. Two proper historical clubs who are two last beacons of traditionalism in a league and era full of phoneys. And two clubs who have fought their bollocks off to get where we are today against considerable odds. Fuck the officials. Football isn't about them. |
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Post by captainfishpaste on Nov 4, 2010 16:31:38 GMT
Paranoia like this seems a complete Oatcake epidemic atm. As I said, as a neutral, I have only seen Stoke has genuine cause for upraor regarding getting "shafted" once this season at least and that was against Man Utd when ever Gary Neville knew he should have been sent off, although even then there was a lot of football to be played against a quality side. It would seem to me that two of your three wins have come courtesy of a piece of very good fortune. Pennant being able to con the ref, twice, against Villa, and James Perch heading into his own top corner uncontested against Newcastle, yet all you hear on here is about bad luck and Stoke getting shafted. None of us like refereeing decisions when they go against us. You think we were sitting there thinking how wonderful Attwel was at Anfield? Or pick any one of the three red cards we have had this season and I'll tell you the referee got it badly wrong and cost us points, but that's football, and Stoke don't find themselves on the wrong end of it anymore than the rest of us (big boys not included). I'll be honest captain, I hate refereeing conspiracy theories. They're usually nonsense. As I've said elsewhere, in our first season after promotion, almost every Rooney swinging an elbow at Faye was cancelled out with a Danny Pugh punching the ball off the line at the Stadium of Light. This year, things are noticeably different. It's not just the big incidents like Gary Neville's second bookable offence. It's the little things, the little incidents. You rarely see a referee apply the law consistently in matches featuring us any more. It's there, it's probably inadvertent and Wenger is probably mostly to blame. By the way, when did Pennant con the ref twice? I can understand you saying once, but I don't get twice? For the record, I'm pleased to report that TP seemed to have a word with Pennant after the Villa game and he's been far more reluctant to go to ground since then. The Pennant thing I was referring too was first the dive, and then taking the kick from 10-15 yards ahead of the offence. Although I don't know why I am blaming Pennant for that. I assumed he was the one who took the kick but if that's not the case then I will hold my hands up. Either way, Stoke got a real double-dose of very favourable refereeing negligence in that minute.  I think refereeing inconsistencies have been a feature of this season. Personally, I didn't think Bramble deserved a red card against the Mags. Carroll was pretty much in a wide position, on his weaker side, and there was a covering defender. Yet 20 minutes later John Mensah did the exact same thing, in the exact same position, and not even a yellow. Just one example off the top of my head.I honestly don't think it is something exclusive to Stoke, and I don't think it is the fallout from Wenger and Murphy. Although the apparent seige mentality from it on here would certainly seem to be. |
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Post by jezzascfc on Nov 4, 2010 16:59:43 GMT
Captain, always good to get a balanced view from a non-Stokie and thanks for taking the time to post in a considered and thoughtful manner....but you're wrong!! LOL Seriously, I agree all supporters think their own club is hard done to by refs - even, incredibly, the big 4, who undoubtedly get preferential treatment. However, the old adage that these things even themselves out over a run of games just doesn't seem to be applying to us at present. Whether it is a fall out from the Arsie Whinger/Danny Murphy crusade or simply a very unlucky run of poor refereeing, I don't know, but the Walters "goal" v Spurs (with the ref right in line 10 yards away enjoying an unobstructed view), Neville's no-show of a red card (a total travesty) and Tuncay's "goal" v Everton (with Baines halfway down before Tuncay gets near him) are the type of refereeing decisions which make all true football folk's blood boil. When it is your team and they happen within a few weeks of each other, it is only to be expected that you start to wonder what is going on? It also serves to bring up again the discussions on goal-line technology, additional officials (like in the Champions League, although that still didn't stop Howard Webb not being strict enough on Ronaldo's shameful play acting last night) and video replays. There is so much money involved in staying in the top flight now that the point or two more we "may" have secured could be the difference between staying up and relegation come May and, therefore, cost the club millions of pounds. That such important decisions still rest in the hands of a single man, not in the first flush of youth and struggling to keep up with today's footballing athletes, who subjectively applies the rules of the game straight away to a situation which may have happened very quickly 30-40 yards away from him amazes me still. |
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Post by w15cfc on Nov 4, 2010 17:31:44 GMT
Now I am considering acknowledging football exists again, here are my concise views regarding this weekend's coming game... "fuck knars". Pretty much as we will all be saying come 3 O'Clock on Saturday  "Stand by for action! We are about to launch Stingray! Anything can happen in the next half hour!" |
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Post by w15cfc on Nov 4, 2010 17:48:43 GMT
we are pissed off after nearly every game though about refs Just seems you are pissed off about refs period. Just let it go and move on. Two decent teams plyaing tomorrow both with players of genuine quality. Two proper historical clubs who are two last beacons of traditionalism in a league and era full of phoneys. And two clubs who have fought their bollocks off to get where we are today against considerable odds. Fuck the officials. Football isn't about them. Pissed off about refs; excellent understatement  Fuck the officials; if only given the chance we would set them up with Julian Clarey and a bag full of KY Football isn't about them; really? They certainly think it is  As many friends that I have at the SOL, I'm looking forward to them going home sad as a fish wives sagging arse  and getting many smiles at work on Monday morning from the 3k GFW's that I will no doubt bump into |
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Post by PickSCFC on Nov 4, 2010 18:52:50 GMT
we are pissed off after nearly every game though about refs Just seems you are pissed off about refs period. Just let it go and move on. Two decent teams plyaing tomorrow both with players of genuine quality. Two proper historical clubs who are two last beacons of traditionalism in a league and era full of phoneys. And two clubs who have fought their bollocks off to get where we are today against considerable odds. Fuck the officials. Football isn't about them. didnt realise the game had been moved forward to a friday  |
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Post by w15cfc on Nov 4, 2010 20:08:37 GMT
Just seems you are pissed off about refs period. Just let it go and move on. Two decent teams plyaing tomorrow both with players of genuine quality. Two proper historical clubs who are two last beacons of traditionalism in a league and era full of phoneys. And two club's who have fought their bollocks off to get where we are today against considerable odds. Fuck the officials. Football isn't about them. didnt realise the game had been moved forward to a friday As the GFW's might say; 'Macum's have giro's not body clocks' |
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Post by captainfishpaste on Nov 4, 2010 20:47:20 GMT
didnt realise the game had been moved forward to a friday As the GFW's might say; 'Macum's have giro's not body clocks' If you can't even be bothered to spell your piss taking right, it is probably a sign that your heart isn't really in it and you should stop.  |
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Post by fentonstokie1 on Nov 4, 2010 21:44:12 GMT
We've been royally screwed in 4 games this season, what about the Zac Knight disallowed penalty joke at Bolton.
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Post by fortressbritannia on Nov 4, 2010 21:44:52 GMT
Can we move on from all this petty squabbling please Captain is one of the fairest posters on this board. Captain What team do you think melon head Imean Bruce is going to put out I've heard it'll be 4-5-1 any ideas? As for the whole referee thing I think we get the rub of the green with decisions not going against us ie everton should have had a penalty however with decisions going for us I think we don't get the luck |
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Post by captainfishpaste on Nov 4, 2010 21:59:10 GMT
Bruce has already said that Gyan will start so I'd imagine 4-4-2. Mensah will come in for Bramble I suspect, and wouldn't be surprised to see Richardson and Gordon back too.
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Post by twisty on Nov 4, 2010 22:01:16 GMT
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 4, 2010 22:02:35 GMT
Bruce has already said that Gyan will start so I'd imagine 4-4-2. Mensah will come in for Bramble I suspect, and wouldn't be surprised to see Richardson and Gordon back too. What's with Gordon? Is he capable of completing 5 games in a row? It seems bizarre that you could spend so much on a goalkeeper who suffers from so many injuries. |
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Post by ProudPotter17 on Nov 4, 2010 22:39:40 GMT
Bloody hell, Gyan & Bent will tear our slow Abdoulaye apart.
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Post by captainfishpaste on Nov 5, 2010 0:08:20 GMT
Bruce has already said that Gyan will start so I'd imagine 4-4-2. Mensah will come in for Bramble I suspect, and wouldn't be surprised to see Richardson and Gordon back too. What's with Gordon? Is he capable of completing 5 games in a row? It seems bizarre that you could spend so much on a goalkeeper who suffers from so many injuries. All his injury issues stem back from media-darling Defoe stamping on his arm at Spurs last year. It broke his arm, and so was out for a bit. Then he came back and played most of the second half of the season with a metal plate in his arm. He had an operation to remove it in the summer, and the first contact on it afterwards and it broke again. The talk was that he'd have the plate in the rest of his career now, but not sure if that came about. |
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Post by dozintheseventees on Nov 5, 2010 3:27:02 GMT
Captain: I'm not paranoid about refereeing decisions mate and I don't go with this conspiracy theory that a few have. However, luck does tend to go in runs and if you honestly believe that we were ONLY robbed against United then I suggest that you look again at the facts We have hit the woodwork far more often than ANY other club this season and we have had perfectly good goals ruled out TWICE in games that we didn't deserve to lose , but did as a result. WE had a Bolton player all but catching the ball in his own penalty area only to see play waved on and another game we didn't deserve to lose goes begging. At Newcastle we had a penalty awarded against us when Huth ran into a Newcastle player in the box only to see our player flattenned i9n their box two minutes later but no penalty. The own goal you say was "under no pressure" you clearly haven't seen properly because Huth was right on his back waiting to nod the ball in.
Now I'm well aware that all teams have hard luck stories and we all think we get the worst of refereeing decisions, but I also know that those things are simply bad luck and we've had a whole seasons worth in the first 10 games. I'm not crying about it and I expect us get lots more bad luck between now and the end of the season but it has significantly distorted our current position. We're playing pretty well and should be on at least 15 points so expect a very tough game on Saturday mate because, with a bit better luck than we've been getting, I expect us to win.
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Post by captainfishpaste on Nov 5, 2010 8:00:22 GMT
Captain: I'm not paranoid about refereeing decisions mate and I don't go with this conspiracy theory that a few have. However, luck does tend to go in runs and if you honestly believe that we were ONLY robbed against United then I suggest that you look again at the facts We have hit the woodwork far more often than ANY other club this season and we have had perfectly good goals ruled out TWICE in games that we didn't deserve to lose , but did as a result. WE had a Bolton player all but catching the ball in his own penalty area only to see play waved on and another game we didn't deserve to lose goes begging. At Newcastle we had a penalty awarded against us when Huth ran into a Newcastle player in the box only to see our player flattenned i9n their box two minutes later but no penalty. The own goal you say was "under no pressure" you clearly haven't seen properly because Huth was right on his back waiting to nod the ball in. Now I'm well aware that all teams have hard luck stories and we all think we get the worst of refereeing decisions, but I also know that those things are simply bad luck and we've had a whole seasons worth in the first 10 games. I'm not crying about it and I expect us get lots more bad luck between now and the end of the season but it has significantly distorted our current position. We're playing pretty well and should be on at least 15 points so expect a very tough game on Saturday mate because, with a bit better luck than we've been getting, I expect us to win. Hitting the woodwork isn't necessarily bad luck. It just means you aren't hitting the target, same as any other missed chance. I would also suggest that what is blatently obvious to you, a Stoke fan who is not possibly capable of objectivity whilst watching Stoke games, are no more than debatable and ultimately reasonable decisions to the rest of us. Even I, a Sunderland fan who destests Andy Carroll with a passion, looked at the Newcastle penalty and thought it was a reasonable decision by the ref. For the Everton one I am assuming that no Stoke fans were barretting the ref for applying the exact same criteria for a "foul" by the attacking team when he as good as scrubbed off two Everton corners minutes earlier before the ball even got in your box. I thought it was bad refereeing, but it was equally bad for both teams, not just Stoke. Bolton, again, a 50-50 call by the ref and I think that if it wasn't clear that the defender's hands were on their way down then you'd have got it. Slightyly unlucky not to get it as I thought the ref could have effectively tossed a coin on that one, but no massive injustice in my opinion. Certainly no more than Evra NOT getting a penalty at the Brit, or Everton not getting one at Goodison. I just look at Stoke this season and see a team who have enjoyed a real mixed bag of luck, some good, some bad, and that is represented in their quite streaky start to the season. The only way I'd deem you a little unfortunate is that you have been the victims of some absolutely clinical pieces of finishing at bad times. Yakubu last week was a reat example. Tight game, yet he produces a piece of real quality in the box to win his team the points. Same can be said of the Klasnic winner, and certainly Hernandez's Solksjear-esq winner for Man Utd. That is just the Premier League, though, and you wouldn't have been complaining if Tuncay's bit of class had won you a point against Man Utd. Who knows, a bit of Tuncay class may well get you all 3 points in a tight game at the SoL, and if it did I am sure you would say that showing that little extra quality when and where it mattered made you very deserving winners, and I'd have to concede the point. |
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Post by w15cfc on Nov 5, 2010 10:04:12 GMT
As the GFW's might say; 'Macum's have giro's not body clocks' If you can't even be bothered to spell your piss taking right, it is probably a sign that your heart isn't really in it and you should stop. Dear oh dear Capt, ashamed of your heritage? I refer you to the Sunderland historical society definition ;D 'macum' 'someone who lives in and/supports SUNDERLAND, they are such a macum' ;D Unless something has been lost in translation? |
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Post by captainfishpaste on Nov 5, 2010 10:08:10 GMT
If you can't even be bothered to spell your piss taking right, it is probably a sign that your heart isn't really in it and you should stop. Dear oh dear Capt, ashamed of your heritage? I refer you to the Sunderland historical society definition ;D 'macum' 'someone who lives in and/supports SUNDERLAND, they are such a macum' ;D Unless something has been lost in translation? Mac kem I'll even give you a reference to aid your learning. You're welcome. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MackemBy pressuming you can lecture me about my own heritage, you are just pretty much embarrassing yourself now. |
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Post by jen on Nov 5, 2010 10:25:15 GMT
With regard to the ref thing - the thing that gets me is having 2 perfectly good goals disallowed already this season. There can't be many clubs who have had that. And the fact that we've had NO penalties either.
Anyhoo - onto the game. I'd say it's a must win for them and a must not lose for us. If we can get ahead, then the crowd might get on the Sunderland player's backs and they might start to look shaky - the Newcastle game showed that they are vulnerable when under pressure to perform. I hope that Jones will be up for it against his old team.
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Post by captainfishpaste on Nov 5, 2010 10:31:03 GMT
With regard to the ref thing - the thing that gets me is having 2 perfectly good goals disallowed already this season. There can't be many clubs who have had that. And the fact that we've had NO penalties either. Anyhoo - onto the game. I'd say it's a must win for them and a must not lose for us. If we can get ahead, then the crowd might get on the Sunderland player's backs and they might start to look shaky - the Newcastle game showed that they are vulnerable when under pressure to perform. I hope that Jones will be up for it against his old team. If you can get a lead, the atmosphere will turn absolutely poisonous. Take my word for it. |
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Post by stokie25 on Nov 5, 2010 11:40:14 GMT
I thought as we neared this game I'd have managed to fall either side of the fence but I still can't call it I'm more nervous about this than any game I can remember this season because I feel that we really need to stop the rot and now before we get dropped heads and ailing confidence. I hope for a good, FAIR fight but I'd take a point right now if offered |
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Post by captainfishpaste on Nov 5, 2010 11:47:35 GMT
I thought as we neared this game I'd have managed to fall either side of the fence but I still can't call it I'm more nervous about this than any game I can remember this season because I feel that we really need to stop the rot and now before we get dropped heads and ailing confidence. I hope for a good, FAIR fight but I'd take a point right now if offered I think that we will probably come out like a house on fire given our wounded pride. The crowd could very easily turn, though. First 20 minutes will be absolutely crucial. |
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"Stand by for action! We are about to launch Stingray! Anything can happen in the next half hour!" 
and getting many smiles at work on Monday morning from the 3k GFW's that I will no doubt bump into 
