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Post by cheadlepotter on Mar 23, 2008 20:08:54 GMT
It has become apparent to me that after approximately 15 years of watching football at Stoke, on the tele and everywhere else, that i have learned absolutely nothing about football.
For the life of me, i just can't see why this guy gets a shirt every match. Yesterday, Jamie Cureton scored more goals in one match than Sidibe has in roughly 40 games this season! His record, for any mould of centre forward, is an absolute disgrace!
I'm told he has his other uses, and maybe i've just picked the wrong games this season in relation to Sidibe's performances, but he doesn't even seem to win many headers at all and when he does he nods in on to the opposing goalkeeper, defender or put it out of play. He seems to make very little assists, doesn't disturb the opposition defence much, offers no pace...
Would some kind Stoke fan please explain why he plays every week? Reasons other than his effort and hard work (let's face it, most of us would run ourselves silly for the cause if we got made to wear the red and white stripes for a day). Is it because there isn't any better alternative for Pulis' style of play?
I don't want to seem like i'm criticising the manager too much. We are top of the league even though it doesn't seem like it's going to stay that way for much longer, but i'm just questioning whether good could be better.
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Post by Hammo on Mar 23, 2008 20:12:48 GMT
He isn't played as a centre forward though. He is used as a target man for fuller. Sure, it helps if he gets a few, but Pulis doesnt have him in the team to score goals.
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Post by scfcham on Mar 23, 2008 20:15:23 GMT
im tired of explaining why sidibe is a vital asset to this team..
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Post by terrytibbs on Mar 23, 2008 20:15:31 GMT
Cheadle,
I myself play as a target man and have done for many years, even played good level non-league, wow !!!
Sidibe is absolute horse shit, simple as that.
TT.
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Post by craigscfc on Mar 23, 2008 20:15:33 GMT
in my opinion, Mama is vital to the way that we play, he works very hard and his presence in the team is sorely missed when he is absent..
He doesn't score a lot, but thats not what hes in the team to do.. hes there to link up the play. Im not too concerned about this because at full strength we have goals coming in from different players e.g. Shawcross, Cort and Lawrence..
im a big fan of mama and it is clear to see that he loves Stoke, and he covers every blade of grass working hard for the team. I think he deserves the shirt every week.
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Post by scfcham on Mar 23, 2008 20:17:58 GMT
i agree mostly with what you're saying
but on the other hand we can't relaly be relying on a defender (cort) as a main source of goals..
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Post by nikola zigic on Mar 23, 2008 20:18:13 GMT
MAMA IS GOD
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Post by Stick It On Cort's Head on Mar 23, 2008 20:46:36 GMT
Mama had a VERY good game against Blackpool, unfortunately his partner was very poor.
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Post by mik06 on Mar 23, 2008 20:46:58 GMT
said something very similar yesterday when he missed the ball completely when any contact would surely have given us three points. thank god he`s not in the team for his goals thats what we have center backs for.
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Post by kinnell on Mar 23, 2008 20:49:48 GMT
The bloke is useless. His 'linkup' play is a disgrace as the original poster points out. Pulis just likes to have all that muscle up there. It gives him a lovely warm glow of reassurance. Uttercrap.
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Post by garyhackett on Mar 23, 2008 20:59:50 GMT
Never been a big fan of Sidibe but he was miles better than Cresswell yesterday, we need a decent forward in urgently.
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Post by lordb on Mar 23, 2008 21:00:08 GMT
WTF?
Mama was very good yesterday - Creswell was fucking shit (again)
how many times did Sidibe flick on the ball into dangerous areas only for Cresswell to make a run AFTER Mama had headed it.
any striker worth his salt would be making a run just BEFORE Mama heads it on unfortunatly the only striker we have had during Mama's time who makes/made these BASIC runs was Bangoura.
Stein used to miss loads of chances but still scored tons in no small part due to being proactive.
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Post by do it for rawba on Mar 23, 2008 21:05:36 GMT
Cheadle, at the start of this season, Mamas contribution to the team effort was immenseIMHO. Albeit we played a lot more direct than perhaps we do now. He won nearly every header and allowed Fuller and others to get into the game. His hold up play was good and for a big man he was almost Crouch like. Then he had the AC of Nations qualification experience. He was injured and struggled to get fit. His contribution to the actual AC Of N finals was nothing short of nothing. Since his return his form has been nowhere near his early season standard. It seems he is lacking something which he lost when over there. Hope he finds it soon so the team can begin to get the goals which were being scored all around him but not actually from him.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Mar 23, 2008 21:34:35 GMT
I defy any forward to try and guage what way the ball is going to go after its left Sidibes head. Anyone who thinks he had a very good game just doesnt have very high standards when regarding their football.
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Post by wolfieboy on Mar 23, 2008 21:50:49 GMT
He's a handful alright but he doesn't know what to do with the ball once he's got it. From an opponent's point of view the big thing he contributes is it takes two men to take him out of the game because he's a big bugger and gets all over the pitch.
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Post by basitbrosupfront on Mar 23, 2008 21:53:30 GMT
He might be no goalscorer but I think he is too good for stoke and should move to a better team like Bolten/Totenham/Everton
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Post by barndoorbanjo on Mar 23, 2008 21:58:11 GMT
If Mama had a very good game yesterday I must have been watching a different game. I thought our main attacking options Mama, Cresswell & Gallagher were all poor.
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Post by tony harrison on Mar 23, 2008 22:05:36 GMT
Totally agree cheadlepotter.
I can see why Pulis thinks he should play, as a target player and the knock ons etc.
In reality you are right, his knock ons don't work very often. They normally go anywhere except where Fuller is.
He did get a header against Norwich to score our only goal but personally I would like to see more running off the ball and good passes made into the right areas to trouble opposing teams.
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Post by Akinbadbuy on Mar 24, 2008 0:22:26 GMT
Its simple really....
He plays because he suits the style of football Pulis as manager wants Stoke to play and he is better than anything else we have currently got.
The stats speak for themselves. We win more games when mama is in the team than when he is out of it.
What I dont understand is if we have got all these players that are better than mama then why as a team do we look lost when he doesnt play?
Mama has been a key player for stoke all season and he is certainly a key player in the run in.
If people really want to see him dropped then we need to sign a big game player like Harewood or Zamora. Playing Gallagher or Cresswell in the mama role simply does not work and will not work.
So cheadlepotter can you offer me an alternative?
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Post by kingdeano on Mar 24, 2008 13:32:58 GMT
He might be no goalscorer but I think he is too good for stoke and should move to a better team like Bolten/Totenham/Everton never in my life have i ever read such bollocks! get a life
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Post by fezgandy on Mar 24, 2008 13:44:18 GMT
Its simple really.... He plays because he suits the style of football Pulis as manager wants Stoke to play and he is better than anything else we have currently got. The stats speak for themselves. We win more games when mama is in the team than when he is out of it. What I dont understand is if we have got all these players that are better than mama then why as a team do we look lost when he doesnt play? Mama has been a key player for stoke all season and he is certainly a key player in the run in. If people really want to see him dropped then we need to sign a big game player like Harewood or Zamora. Playing Gallagher or Cresswell in the mama role simply does not work and will not work. So cheadlepotter can you offer me an alternative? I personally wouldve given Parkin a go on saturday. Fair do's against a shit hot side he'd be no use, but Blackpool are a decent league one side who happen to play in our league. Similar to Parkin as a player. He has shown that he can score in league one so why not give him a go against blackpool?? Maybe if he had played instead of either one of them useless twats who did then we'd be 2 points better off
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Post by jarhead on Mar 24, 2008 14:03:12 GMT
...IS WANK END OF
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Post by basitbrosupfront on Mar 24, 2008 14:37:06 GMT
never in my life have i ever read such stuff!kingdeano
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Post by roloman on Mar 24, 2008 14:47:59 GMT
I didn't see him yesterday but I heard his name a lot on the commentary. I know that we missed him big time against Watford.
But if Parkin is the answer it must be a very stupid question!!
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Post by altair on Mar 24, 2008 17:53:15 GMT
I have yet to find any definition of the word "footballer" that can be applied to this lumbering idiot.
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Post by MrMagic on Mar 24, 2008 18:07:43 GMT
I get the impression that a lot of supporters confuse supporting the team with agreeing with every decision that the manager makes.
If Sidibe was playing for any other CCC side he'd be derided as "wank", as it is he plays for us so he is vital to the side.
He is honest, hard working, a fair player and committed. Sadly he just isn't good enough. His goal return is shocking, he cannot shoot, he cannot trap the ball unless his back is to goal and it arrives at his midriff. His flick-ons are totally random, he doesn't know where they will end up, so how can his colleagues? He cannot jump, and his passing is very hit and miss.
I cannot accept that the same posters who have badged players such as Ewanks Blake (sic) Beatie, Miller as "rubbish" think that Mama is fantastic.
I don't think we should be changing the system that has got us to top, but I do think we ought to have bought in a target man who has more to his game.
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Post by kingdeano on Mar 24, 2008 18:31:53 GMT
basitbrosupfront in your own head do you honestly think that sidibe is good enough play for bolton spurs or everton?? you must be on drugs son. that is the biggest pile of shit ive ever seen wrote
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Post by barndoorbanjo on Mar 24, 2008 19:06:16 GMT
Totally agree with Mr.Magic. Having said that I'm not one of these fans that boos his own players and I want Mama to succeed, unfortunately if we have any ambition he simply aint good enough whether he works hard or not. However he is good comic value.
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Post by pottersrule on Mar 24, 2008 19:27:26 GMT
I think if you played against Mama you wouldn't be asking such a stupid question.He is a real handfull and any defender must dread playing against him. When Sidibie plays Stoke are a far more effective unit it's as simple as that.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Mar 24, 2008 19:33:04 GMT
When lawrence plays we are a more effective unit When Fuller plays we are a more effective unit Sidibe is just a unit.
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