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Post by stokelad84 on Aug 16, 2010 11:03:04 GMT
So why didnt his system 'evaporate into the air' a long time ago?
He has ALWAYS played 4-4-1-1, big strong defense, 2 holding midfielders, 2 wide players, a target man and a mobile front man.
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Post by potters 22 on Aug 16, 2010 11:15:21 GMT
Oh what a surprise!!
A new season starts and the wrist slashers are back, same as last season and the season before!
Kevkj and mr magic arnt worth the steam off my shit with comments like that and as in previous seasons will be proved totally wrong by tony pulis!
Bad day on saturday but do us a favour and shut the fuck up!!
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Post by alster on Aug 16, 2010 11:19:02 GMT
again 60million? no proof. also I think we have been one of the most successful clubs in England over the last 3 years, probably the most successful when you think where we came from. people on this board really make me sick, well the minority like you always find something to moan about when it comes to pulis. im sure you want us to get relegated just to prove a point. No proof my arse Buy a fucking calculator EDIT - I missed the work dickhead off. Yes you are right. All of the comments I make about our manager are based on the fact that I want the team I have supported for over 30 years to fail! It fucking beggars beleif it really does. I can turn it around and say people like you would be happy if we were playing conference football, providing Pulis was still in charge playing square pegs in round holes. I supported stoke when Pulis was a shit defensive lower league midfielder, and I will still be supporting them when he retires to his multi-million "working class" sandbanks estate, so spare me the empty lecture. Out of interest, which bits of yesterdays display are you happy with. Well said magic. |
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Post by amathus on Aug 16, 2010 11:20:11 GMT
Smells of Alan Curbishley hate campaign that drove Charlton into the abyss. What do you want ffs?
12th and 11th and your still not happy. Jesus
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Post by PickSCFC on Aug 16, 2010 11:24:29 GMT
theres a good chance we wont get any points in the next 3 games, i wont bother coming on here if we dont
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Post by alster on Aug 16, 2010 11:30:45 GMT
Oh what a surprise!! A new season starts and the wrist slashers are back, same as last season and the season before! Kevkj and mr magic arnt worth the steam off my shit with comments like that and as in previous seasons will be proved totally wrong by tony pulis! Bad day on saturday but do us a favour and shut the fuck up!! He's only proving people wrong who say we're going to get relegated. If you simply state, he's spent a shit load of money to produce a team with minimal football ability. He is ultra negative with the way he sets a team up, this far too often results in garbage football that is quite dire to watch then more often than not he proves you very right. |
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Post by alster on Aug 16, 2010 11:35:27 GMT
Smells of Alan Curbishley hate campaign that drove Charlton into the abyss. What do you want ffs? 12th and 11th and your still not happy. Jesus Its called football, could be a clue as to what moaners want. |
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Post by french toast on Aug 16, 2010 11:36:41 GMT
Smells of Alan Curbishley hate campaign that drove Charlton into the abyss. What do you want ffs? 12th and 11th and your still not happy. Jesus Its called football, could be a clue as to what moaners want. well our FOOTBALLERS hardly pic the ball up and run with it under their arms do they  |
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Post by alster on Aug 16, 2010 11:45:45 GMT
Its called football, could be a clue as to what moaners want. well our FOOTBALLERS hardly pic the ball up and run with it under their arms do they Listen. If you think our standard of play justifies the outlay thats fine by me. You are no lover of the game if you think what Pulis churns out is anything like good football. |
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Post by stokelad84 on Aug 16, 2010 11:48:05 GMT
Our players do have ability
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Post by amathus on Aug 16, 2010 12:14:05 GMT
well our FOOTBALLERS hardly pic the ball up and run with it under their arms do they Listen. If you think our standard of play justifies the outlay thats fine by me. You are no lover of the game if you think what Pulis churns out is anything like good football. well lets get back to the championship and start playing it the 'proper way'. its quite clear that we cheated our way to the prem so lets go try it again. |
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 16, 2010 12:18:54 GMT
Smells of Alan Curbishley hate campaign that drove Charlton into the abyss. What do you want ffs? 12th and 11th and your still not happy. Jesus ah the old Alan Curbishly line. It's the same kind of crap as 'if we pass it we'll do a West Brom' that tools on here spout. Results are great, the football for the money spent is embarrasing. No one (except march4) can argue against that. |
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Post by sirpineapple89 on Aug 16, 2010 12:19:27 GMT
Let's make no bones about it, we were fucking wank bar the first ten minutes on Saturday. We allowed Wolves as much room as I've ever seen us before. We lacked ideas, we lacked skill and, unfortunately, Pulis chose the completely wrong players to fit the formation.
We all know the Huth cannot play at right back. We all know that Wilko is the best full back we have so why the fucking hell is he on the bench?
We all know the Higgy is piss poor at LB as he lacks any kind of pace. I'm not sure Danny Collins would've been much better but it would've been difficult to have done worse. It's not Higgy's fault he got picked and I've no doubt that he gave us all he could. Unfortunately, it was way below the standard of what a Premier League left back should be at.
Shawcross and Faye did alright to be fair but I'd still put Huth with Shawcross against Spurs because I reckon Defoe could run Abdy ragged.
We all saw again what we never wanted to see. Rory Delap on the right hand side. For fuck's sake, he's just not a right midfielder. Just get someone in who can play on the right hand side. Please. It makes Delap look a far worse player than he is.
Whelan and Whitehead seemed to leave Wolves players in about 46 acres of space every time they broke. Just where were we? Why did Whelan play if he wasn't fit?
Etherington was hardly on the ball due to the fact that we couldn't pass fucking wind. When he did get on the ball, he didn't seem to be making the right decisions.
Another player we'd thought we'd seen the back of unless we were desperate then came on and showed exactly why he shouldn't be anywhere near the starting line up. I don't mind Mama as he has done well in the past but there's no way he's good enough for a start any more. He was just awful.
I don't want Pulis out, not by a long stretch. What I do want him to is to stop fucking weakening the side just to fit everybody in. He's a guy that apparrently prides himself on teamwork and organisation. Playing the players he did where he did made us look totally dis-organised and, quite frankly, like relegation material. I like the bloke, I just wish he'd stop making retarded decisions and being so damn stubborn.
For Spurs I'd play:
Sorro
Wilko
Huth
Shawcross
Higgy (if there's no sign of a new LB. Which I hope to God there is)
Lawrence (if fit and there's nobody else)
Delap (if there's no CM signed (not Kovac, PLEASE!)
Whitehead
Etherington
Fuller
Tuncay
Our midfield is so short on quality that it's scary.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 16, 2010 12:22:51 GMT
Our midfield is so short on quality that it's scary. And that's the argument, for the money spent (£60million) it's a disgrace. |
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Post by stokelad84 on Aug 16, 2010 12:23:08 GMT
We played poor yes, but its not like Wolves battered us. The free kick was unstoppable and there 2nd goal was a from a lucky deflection off Faye.
We could easily have nicked a equaliser off a set piece
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Post by amathus on Aug 16, 2010 12:24:55 GMT
Smells of Alan Curbishley hate campaign that drove Charlton into the abyss. What do you want ffs? 12th and 11th and your still not happy. Jesus ah the old Alan Curbishly line. It's the same kind of crap as 'if we pass it we'll do a West Brom' that tools on here spout. Results are great, the football for the money spent is embarrasing. No one (except march4) can argue against that. lets go protest then, You made the red cards yet? |
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Post by fromafar07 on Aug 16, 2010 12:25:55 GMT
Centre halves at fullback. Hoofing play, Midfielders that cant put 3 passes together. Delap wide right. Yes i know how well Pulis has done but were not evolving in my view. Every team outplays us even shit like Wolves. Were ugly as fuck and unexciting. It doesnt have to be like this but Pulis is a hypocrite with his selection and sqyare pegs in roung holes. There`s always one one ??? |
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Post by sirpineapple89 on Aug 16, 2010 12:26:58 GMT
We played poor yes, but its not like Wolves battered us. The free kick was unstoppable and there 2nd goal was a from a lucky deflection off Faye. We could easily have nicked a equaliser off a set piece That's true but I thought Wolves controlled the game and never looked in any real danger after Jones went off. The second goal was just gravity at its worst. Nowt you can do about it. Whitehead's challenge for the first was stupid. |
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Post by bloodypiles on Aug 16, 2010 12:28:33 GMT
well our FOOTBALLERS hardly pic the ball up and run with it under their arms do they Listen. If you think our standard of play justifies the outlay thats fine by me. You are no lover of the game if you think what Pulis churns out is anything like good football. yeah lets be like west brom, think before you speak, its how e play and has what has kept us up for the post 2yrs so if its direct football for the next 2 seasons then so be it |
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Post by ColonelMustard on Aug 16, 2010 12:31:49 GMT
We had a bad day on Saturday but it is not the end of the world.
The expectation of a lot of supporters that we should just roll over teams that have come up after us is as worrying as it is delusional.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 16, 2010 12:40:08 GMT
Listen. If you think our standard of play justifies the outlay thats fine by me. You are no lover of the game if you think what Pulis churns out is anything like good football. yeah lets be like west brom, think before you speak, its how e play and has what has kept us up for the post 2yrs so if its direct football for the next 2 seasons then so be it et voilà |
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 16, 2010 12:40:42 GMT
ah the old Alan Curbishly line. It's the same kind of crap as 'if we pass it we'll do a West Brom' that tools on here spout. Results are great, the football for the money spent is embarrasing. No one (except march4) can argue against that. lets go protest then, You made the red cards yet? No need, I know a bloke with 1000's in his shed. ;D |
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Post by fromafar07 on Aug 16, 2010 12:40:53 GMT
We played poor yes, but its not like Wolves battered us. The free kick was unstoppable and there 2nd goal was a from a lucky deflection off Faye. We could easily have nicked a equaliser off a set piece ahhhhh yes the old, we lost, but COULD easily have nicked the equaliser or winner argument !! but guess what ?? ............................ we didnt !! hence the loss !! |
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Post by bloodypiles on Aug 16, 2010 12:42:53 GMT
yeah lets be like west brom, think before you speak, its how e play and has what has kept us up for the post 2yrs so if its direct football for the next 2 seasons then so be it et voilà je pense qu'il essaie être débarrassé juste de toutes les cartes rouges dans son garage |
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Post by stokelad84 on Aug 16, 2010 12:45:37 GMT
Yes we did lose, but its not like we were thrashed like Wigan and West Brom.
We will lose games this season, we will draw games and we will win games.
If there are supporters who can't stand a loss, then they should stop caring.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 16, 2010 13:15:37 GMT
je pense qu'il essaie être débarrassé juste de toutes les cartes rouges dans son garage They're not in my garage bud!!!! ;D |
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Post by jarhead on Aug 16, 2010 13:26:16 GMT
Let's make no bones about it, we were fucking wank bar the first ten minutes on Saturday. We allowed Wolves as much room as I've ever seen us before. We lacked ideas, we lacked skill and, unfortunately, Pulis chose the completely wrong players to fit the formation. We all know the Huth cannot play at right back. We all know that Wilko is the best full back we have so why the fucking hell is he on the bench? We all know the Higgy is piss poor at LB as he lacks any kind of pace. I'm not sure Danny Collins would've been much better but it would've been difficult to have done worse. It's not Higgy's fault he got picked and I've no doubt that he gave us all he could. Unfortunately, it was way below the standard of what a Premier League left back should be at. Shawcross and Faye did alright to be fair but I'd still put Huth with Shawcross against Spurs because I reckon Defoe could run Abdy ragged. We all saw again what we never wanted to see. Rory Delap on the right hand side. For fuck's sake, he's just not a right midfielder. Just get someone in who can play on the right hand side. Please. It makes Delap look a far worse player than he is. Whelan and Whitehead seemed to leave Wolves players in about 46 acres of space every time they broke. Just where were we? Why did Whelan play if he wasn't fit? Etherington was hardly on the ball due to the fact that we couldn't pass fucking wind. When he did get on the ball, he didn't seem to be making the right decisions. Another player we'd thought we'd seen the back of unless we were desperate then came on and showed exactly why he shouldn't be anywhere near the starting line up. I don't mind Mama as he has done well in the past but there's no way he's good enough for a start any more. He was just awful. I don't want Pulis out, not by a long stretch. What I do want him to is to stop fucking weakening the side just to fit everybody in. He's a guy that apparrently prides himself on teamwork and organisation. Playing the players he did where he did made us look totally dis-organised and, quite frankly, like relegation material. I like the bloke, I just wish he'd stop making retarded decisions and being so damn stubborn. For Spurs I'd play: Sorro Wilko Huth Shawcross Higgy (if there's no sign of a new LB. Which I hope to God there is) Lawrence (if fit and there's nobody else) Delap (if there's no CM signed (not Kovac, PLEASE!) Whitehead Etherington Fuller Tuncay Our midfield is so short on quality that it's scary. I could not have put it better myself WELL SAID. |
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Post by jarhead on Aug 16, 2010 13:35:54 GMT
Yes we did lose, but its not like we were thrashed like Wigan and West Brom. We will lose games this season, we will draw games and we will win games. If there are supporters who can't stand a loss, then they should stop caring. We know this ffs but its how we lost IS THE PROBLEM the mindset the tactics the UTTER CRAPNESS of our play the dire non existent football we had to suffer was fuckin embarassing dont you fuckin get it yet??? For someone who has Diao and Sidibe on his profile really speaks volumes in how much you hate a natural balanced side that has pace and ability with ideas to boot and with 60 MILLION SPENT ITS A DISGRACE.....you really are a lost case. I bet you are one of those proper sad fans who has a club lamp-shade a club duvet and pillow set, red and white wall paper a picture of the ground in your living room next Mr Negative!!! Get in the real world and stop this ass licking crap with the shit your savier dishes up unless you dont go of course because to easily excuse THAT SHIT SATURDAY must seriously mean you did not attend. |
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Post by stokelad84 on Aug 16, 2010 13:43:12 GMT
We lost by 1 goal (with both of there goals being lucky) that has nothing to do with tactics. If we started with Tuncay and Fuller up front, with Wilko at right back, they would still have scored there 2 lucky goals!
We will concede lucky goals all season. We will score a few too.
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Post by jarhead on Aug 16, 2010 13:48:58 GMT
See what i mean YOU CLEARY DONT GO TO GAMES to brush aside such dross and negativity.
WE WERE WANK,PLAYED WANK AND COULD OF GOT BEATEN 4 OR 5 ARE YOU.....STILL NOT GETTING IT!!!
WE MUST EVOLE PLAY BETTER SIGN REAL FOOTBALLERS AND PRIORITISE IN USING 'A FOOTBALL IN TRAINING AND TO TRAIN IN FUCKIN USING ONE PROPERLY'
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