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Post by eriksson74 on Jul 22, 2010 22:13:41 GMT
Tone may think he's worth £14m for Stoke given he thinks he could be the missing piece of the jigsaw. Certain players fit certain styles and clubs and therefore stronger demand exists for that club and or clubs.
Its a bit like Fletcher who cost Wolves £7m plus, they paid a bit of a premium to secure him quickly as Mick thought he was the one for him.
Look at another way a player like Messi could command a £50m fee for barca, real madrid, arsenal etc but would be a complete waste of money for Stoke
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 22, 2010 22:16:31 GMT
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Post by PoisonedDonkey on Jul 22, 2010 22:20:13 GMT
Please God let us get Cole. I'm not religious but he would just be so perfect at Stoke.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 22, 2010 22:22:31 GMT
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Post by lancspotter on Jul 22, 2010 22:23:15 GMT
The small list of others prepared or able to gamble on cole is fortunate for us IMO. I think in our position he's a gamble worth taking, and I hope TP does too. We need to push on in terms of the quality of players we sign in such key positions wherever we can.
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Post by lancspotter on Jul 22, 2010 22:26:36 GMT
I hope you and Paul Spencer are right about the wages being a big enough lure to overcome that particular obstacle, FM
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 22, 2010 22:35:22 GMT
If that was going to prove to be a complete deal breaker, you'd hope that we'd sussed it by now. We must have had pretty detailed dialogue with him and his agent by now, one way or another.
Maybe we're relying on him sussing that West Ham effectively want him out, and us proving to be his best/only option when it comes down to the teams who are actually putting the pound notes down.
But I suppose if he digs his heels in, there's nothing West Ham or Stoke can do about it, even if it turns out to be a choice between staying at a club where the chairman wants to sell him and a club he doesn't want to join, but desperately want him.
I suppose Grant would still pick him come September if he dug his heels in and refused to go, despite pressure.
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Post by stokelad84 on Jul 22, 2010 23:07:45 GMT
£14M fee plus around £10M signing-on fee & wages over 3 years = £24M outlay. Cole has averaged around 30 games per season over last 3 years. Assuming 90 games over next 3 seasons, he would cost us about £265K per game. £10m signing on fee and wages, are you on drugs? Joe Cole only just gets that for joining Liverpool!!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 22, 2010 23:15:50 GMT
£14M fee plus around £10M signing-on fee & wages over 3 years = £24M outlay. Cole has averaged around 30 games per season over last 3 years. Assuming 90 games over next 3 seasons, he would cost us about £265K per game. £10m signing on fee and wages, are you on drugs? Joe Cole only just gets that for joining Liverpool!! If he was on 50k a week which is the lower estimate, over 3 seasons he would earn £7,800,000! Joe Cole in the same period on 90k would earn £14,040,000.
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Post by coggy on Jul 22, 2010 23:15:58 GMT
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Post by drevil on Jul 22, 2010 23:21:59 GMT
i dont care how much we pay for him. dont come out of my back pocket. as long as i see him playing for stoke im not bothered how much tp wants to pay
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Post by isaaccox on Jul 22, 2010 23:23:53 GMT
It doesn't matter if we offer 30 million, he doesn't want to come.
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Post by drevil on Jul 22, 2010 23:26:02 GMT
"cole doesnt want to move to a shit hole" He lives in london ffs ;D
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Post by dicanio10 on Jul 22, 2010 23:27:05 GMT
[quote author=hebangsthedrums board=Potters thread=129044 post=2079624 time=1279838122
But I suppose if he digs his heels in, there's nothing West Ham or Stoke can do about it
I suppose Grant would still pick him come September if he dug his heels in and refused to go, despite pressure.[/quote]
Spot on i have said this all along the first part he has three years left on his contract the two Daves are powerless in forcing him or any player for that matter to a club he clearly doesn't want to join.
I remember years ago Harry accepted a bid from citeh for lomas and he refused to go back there and he and the owner Brown were powerless to stop it players have the power these days.I think harry dropped him but he was soon back in the team as he was a key player for us at the time like CC is now grant will not do the same as harry Cole will be first choice for us come the start of the season.
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Post by gaznandi on Jul 22, 2010 23:27:43 GMT
Gettin jittery aint they...
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Post by gaznandi on Jul 22, 2010 23:29:25 GMT
"Piq is a ready mad replacement & is a little bit more mobile IMO"
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Post by jakewhu on Jul 22, 2010 23:46:42 GMT
Wow 14m. Snap your hand off for that.
He's a decent player, but 14m nah...
Can be lazy, loves his back to goal. Although he can hold the ball up well and has improved his finishing. Probably suit your system though.
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Post by dilbert76 on Jul 22, 2010 23:50:05 GMT
Gettin jittery aint they... Not really. Still mainly laughing at you guys. Why not join the forum and debate it? Thought not, just view like peeping toms with your cocks in your sweaty hands
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Post by isaaccox on Jul 22, 2010 23:55:42 GMT
Gettin jittery aint they... Not really. Still mainly laughing at you guys. Why not join the forum and debate it? Thought not, just view like peeping toms with your cocks in your sweaty hands No thanks, it's a rubbish forum.
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Post by stokecityscott on Jul 22, 2010 23:56:53 GMT
calm down alf.
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Post by bostonstokie on Jul 22, 2010 23:58:14 GMT
Gettin jittery aint they... Not really. Still mainly laughing at you guys. Why not join the forum and debate it? Thought not, just view like peeping toms with your cocks in your sweaty hands Why waste time over there? Its only you that come blathering over here, we don't need to go there...
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Post by kidsgrove4 on Jul 23, 2010 0:08:37 GMT
Carlton Cole is no better than fucking Heskey, £14m would be a ludicrous amount of money to spend on the big lump Carlton Cole is ten times the player Heskey is. And was..... I agree it's a load of moolah, but ,hey, it'd really show the Prem we are here to stay, and I think he would fit in well here. I like Cole, and think he has a strong work ethic with a pile of talent to boot. K4...
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Post by jacka118 on Jul 23, 2010 0:51:50 GMT
A lot of money, but that's the going rate considering: 1) He's a striker 2) He plays in London 3) He's English I'd rather Jones, but he's probably as good as we'll get to replace Mama in our price range. Still, it's an awful lot of money. Agree with that MD
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Post by salifdiao on Jul 23, 2010 0:54:56 GMT
Right let's get this straight once and for all Carlton cole and kenwyn Jones will not come to stoke. This is fact.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 23, 2010 0:56:11 GMT
Right let's get this straight once and for all Carlton cole and kenwyn Jones will not come to stoke. This is fact. Yes we know.
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Post by prettyricky on Jul 23, 2010 1:52:54 GMT
Right let's get this straight once and for all Carlton cole and kenwyn Jones will not come to stoke. This is fact. Yes we know. i didn't, it's a good thing you said or i might of got my hopes up ;D
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Post by markscfc72 on Jul 23, 2010 2:36:03 GMT
Right let's get this straight once and for all Carlton cole and kenwyn Jones will not come to stoke. This is fact. oh my god, when are they signing ;D
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Post by Stokiedavo on Jul 23, 2010 3:14:16 GMT
i wouldn't sack him he sounds right. was playing fifa and at the bottom it went past stoke will offer 14m for c.cole
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Post by ColonelMustard on Jul 23, 2010 6:19:04 GMT
Right let's get this straight once and for all Carlton cole and kenwyn Jones will not come to stoke. This is fact. all at once I start to believe
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Post by Danstoke82 on Jul 23, 2010 6:58:46 GMT
It states that he wants to stay in London...
So my question is, why the fuck are we pissing about with this!?!? he's never gonna come!!
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