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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 21, 2010 23:29:07 GMT
The Britannia boss said: "We realise we might be at the top table but there is an elitist group who eat first and they get the best stuff.
"We'll wait until they're finished and see what's left over and then we'll go for that.
"There will be some good players available but it's just being in the right time at the right place.
"We've got quite a few irons in the fire."
They are the most cliched 4 sentences I've ever read.
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Post by ProudPotter17 on Jul 21, 2010 23:29:57 GMT
i'd settle for rodders and cole they'd make a great forward line and bentley if we're looking at splashing out job done ;D ;D |
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Post by mistersausage on Jul 21, 2010 23:41:42 GMT
But if Beattie wants to be a real cunt and is still holding a grudge he can fuck the deal up good and proper  Why give him that power? Just bid for the player for fucks sake. |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jul 21, 2010 23:46:38 GMT
The Britannia boss said: "We realise we might be at the top table but there is an elitist group who eat first and they get the best stuff. "We'll wait until they're finished and see what's left over and then we'll go for that. "There will be some good players available but it's just being in the right time at the right place. "We've got quite a few irons in the fire." They are the most cliched 4 sentences I've ever read. ;D |
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Post by drwhom on Jul 22, 2010 5:54:03 GMT
Beattie at least makes the term "makeweight" accurate.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jul 22, 2010 6:02:57 GMT
Beattie is hardly a Martinez style player. Makes no sense at all
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jul 22, 2010 6:06:52 GMT
Two papers running the same story... Must be something in it Yea - one copies the other  |
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Post by Danstoke82 on Jul 22, 2010 6:58:30 GMT
Theres no way that Martinez will take that deal. I'd imagine he has no interest in Beattie and no doubt values Rodders at 10mill plus!!.
Stoke should push the boat out here on Rodders and maybe stop being fucked around by Carlton Cole.
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 22, 2010 7:38:35 GMT
I could see Martinez wanting Kitson ahead of Beattie perhaps but we can't afford to lose out again because we're trying to offload our rubbish in a deal. 10m straight would get him and be a cracking signing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2010 7:44:04 GMT
Surely no footballer would leave glorious, total football Wigan for nasty, ugly Stoke City would they? |
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Post by gilberto on Jul 22, 2010 7:54:21 GMT
Surely no footballer would leave glorious, total football Wigan for nasty, ugly Stoke City would they? rob, the bid will be accepted and then hugo will come out in the press and say 'i dont like chasing the ball into channels for 90 minutes, im staying put.' ;D |
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Post by SCFC92 on Jul 22, 2010 7:59:07 GMT
Just offer them near the going price for him which I would stick between £8-£10 million!!!
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 22, 2010 8:07:09 GMT
I wish TP wouldn't talk us down he's saying basically to players if you can't find a better team then join us.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 22, 2010 8:07:23 GMT
The problem as I see it is that, whilst we can afford to buy players like Rodallega we can't afford to add him to the wage bill until players like Kitson and/or Beattie are off it. So, from our point of view, a swap deal makes sense. If we can't do a swap deal then we'd have to look at offloading them at an even bigger loss than we might do in a swap deal and of course, however we get them out of the club, we may end up subsidising their wages after their move.
We are in a tricky situation brought about in part by longer contracts than we perhaps should have offered them. Long contracts are fine for younger players who are still improving and who you can, if needs be, sell to the highest of several keen bidders. For players around or above 30 they are risky.
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Post by RAF on Jul 22, 2010 9:15:21 GMT
Yes a swap would make sense if the whole mess with Kitson and Beattie hadn't been so publicly aired.
I can't see anyone touching them with a fucking bargepole and offering them as a makeweight is clearly not appealing to anyone, they want hard cash, just as Crapdiff didn't want Tonge.
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Post by lew86 on Jul 22, 2010 9:21:13 GMT
Sorry but hpw many times have we seen this;
"Tony Pulis will now step up his bid to sign the striker."
And Tones come out and said he hasn't heard anything about it.
However in that Sun 'report';
"We've got quite a few irons in the fire."
AAAAhhhhhhh there it is ;D.
I'd love this to come off though.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 22, 2010 9:23:40 GMT
Could be a good deal for both parties this one. We need to bring a good striker in, Wigan get a good chunk of money and a player that certainly knows how to find the net.
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Post by madpotter on Jul 22, 2010 9:31:15 GMT
If we could nick both roddy and fig off wigan, that would be a result.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2010 10:03:46 GMT
Prefer Maynard, he'd be happier to understudy Ric and has massive potential. Rodders is overated. I think 7 million plus Beattie is a cracking deal for Wigan. I just don't see where Rodders would fit in.
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Post by realstokebloke on Jul 22, 2010 10:14:38 GMT
Prefer Maynard, he'd be happier to understudy Ric and has massive potential. Rodders is overated. I think 7 million plus Beattie is a cracking deal for Wigan. I just don't see where Rodders would fit in.
Agree Jimmy - Rodders is way over-rated / priced when he goes north of £6 - 7M for me. (Wolves & Fletcher have a lot to answer for eh?)
And, as well documented last window, if TP won' do the "Fuller / Tuncs shuffle" i'd be flabbergasted if he would do a "Fuller / Rodders tango", so no, he won't fit.
(And i don't for a minute think Ric is off.)
I too like the sound of Maynard but can't say i've seen enough of him.
In a sense though i'm hertened by these stories as we are at least trying to shift the log jam of dead wood. |
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Jul 22, 2010 10:25:59 GMT
I wouldn't say he was over-rated at £7m to be honest, 10 prem goals last season, 3 in 15 in his stint from january onwards the season before.
The only concern for me is that he doesn't look a good fit for the mama role, he has some decent hold up play in his game but it is just that, hold-up rather than flick on, more kitson than sidibe, plus I think he looks more natural playing in a 4-5-1.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jul 22, 2010 10:35:50 GMT
just dont see beattie as a Martinez player or Wigan paying his wages sorry
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Post by liathroid on Jul 22, 2010 10:36:23 GMT
These forwards were after don't really set the world on fire and not many of the so called top clubs want them .There has to be a better gamble out their than these players ,because at them prices their big gambles.
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Post by 1steino on Jul 22, 2010 10:52:27 GMT
Just offer hard cash Tone. If people want money bags or carrot top theyll bid for them.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jul 22, 2010 11:21:09 GMT
Hmm this seems interesting... might wake up with a new potter in the squad lads! ;D
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Post by nott1 on Jul 22, 2010 11:23:07 GMT
This means we would then have 3 players (Rodders/Fuller/Tuncay) who, I'm sure in the mind of the manager, would not be able to play together so its either Fulller + Mama Tunny + Mama or Rodders + Mama You choose????? I'll pass on Mama, thanks all the same! |
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Post by stokemanusa on Jul 22, 2010 11:23:52 GMT
The problem as I see it is that, whilst we can afford to buy players like Rodallega we can't afford to add him to the wage bill until players like Kitson and/or Beattie are off it. So, from our point of view, a swap deal makes sense. If we can't do a swap deal then we'd have to look at offloading them at an even bigger loss than we might do in a swap deal and of course, however we get them out of the club, we may end up subsidising their wages after their move. We are in a tricky situation brought about in part by longer contracts than we perhaps should have offered them. Long contracts are fine for younger players who are still improving and who you can, if needs be, sell to the highest of several keen bidders. For players around or above 30 they are risky. We could send those two sangbaggin tossers down to the championship where they can hero out there old days in the top of the league. |
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Post by nott1 on Jul 22, 2010 11:25:17 GMT
Sorry but hpw many times have we seen this; "Tony Pulis will now step up his bid to sign the striker." And Tones come out and said he hasn't heard anything about it. However in that Sun 'report'; "We've got quite a few irons in the fire." AAAAhhhhhhh there it is ;D. This "irons in the fire" quote was made ages ago and is old hat, not news! I'd love this to come off though. |
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Post by RedandWhite4ever on Jul 22, 2010 11:25:29 GMT
it's on team talk site as well and in the Sun Today
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Post by Davef on Jul 22, 2010 11:28:25 GMT
Ask yourself this. If someone came along and offered a fee we considered lower than our valuation for Ricardo Fuller, plus an overweight, unfit, cast-off striker with a bad attitude that we'd have to pay the best part of thirty grand a week as part of the deal, what would you expect Stoke's answer to be?
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