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Post by isaaccox on May 21, 2010 8:58:57 GMT
Jaysus.
Oh deary me.
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Post by waitingforwaddo on May 21, 2010 10:12:13 GMT
UTTERUTTERSHIT.
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Post by CillaBlacksPissFlaps on May 21, 2010 10:17:12 GMT
I'd have him for £2M like a ruddy shot, an England forward playing up front for Stoke, yes please, plus TP will get him in shape and firing again, ala ADE style.
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Post by coggy on May 21, 2010 10:19:36 GMT
I'd have him for £2M like a ruddy shot, an England forward playing up front for Stoke, yes please, plus TP will get him in shape and firing again, ala ADE style. This ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif)
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Post by Olgrligm on May 21, 2010 10:22:55 GMT
I'm just waiting for the explosion if Tuncay goes to Blackburn in exchange for Samba, while we bring in Carlton Cole, Emile Heskey and Nyron Nosworthy ;D
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Post by pushon on May 21, 2010 10:45:15 GMT
Our main problem is obviously goals, not because of the striker's inability to score, but because of our failure to create realistic goal scoring opportunities. I can't think of one incisive ball played through for Fuller to run on to, throughout the entire season! I think I can remember just 1, but he was flagged offside ![:-[](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/fwGSRilBFZwfei5Q6XIp.gif)
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2010 13:00:39 GMT
What the fuck, talking about "pushing on" already, what exactly is "pushing on", we're never going to get the top 8, we finished 11th this year, i just don't get it. If you mean playing better football, i think it'll happen eventually, i actually think we've played better stuff this year, some of our goals, on the counter attack especially have been very good. You only have to look at Wigan, play some decent stuff but are ALWAYS going to be lower than us in the table. It'll take time as well though, and i'd personally rather see us play "shit" football for 5 years just to consolidate our position - because in terms of attracting players, imo we're against teams like Birmingham, Bolton, Fulham and so forth, I still don't feel we're a properly established premiership team after just two very good seasons. I can't quite believe how people slate signings, Huth and Shawcross are easily the two best young centre backs in the top division, Begovic looks like a top keeper at 22 - i'd never thought i'd see these players play for Stoke. And that's forgetting the quality of Etherington and Fuller going forward. Obviously people feel more comfortable to talk about the negatives, and i suppose as this is a messageboard, and negatives bring more talking points,it's only natural - but i don't think this "pushing on" business is fair on Pulis, the guy will always be hated by some and they'll find anything to have a jibe at him, even after three unbelievable seasons. In my opinion, every year our first objective must be simply to stay up, and then see where we go from there. However a minority of fans feel as though we SHOULD be in that top 10 next year, whilst playing better football - it really doesn't work like that. Why people have to be so negative about three of the most succesful season's we've had is beyond me. And as for Heskey, having England's striker for one year wouldn't hurt, would it? also id like to use fulham as an example, a smaller club than ourselves got to the uefa cup final, so with the funds we have, why couldnt we try to at least qualify? id call that pushing on myself. Would that be the same "smaller club than ourselves" who have numerous players who would walk into our team and who have been an established top flight side for the better part of a decade?
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Post by knowles on May 21, 2010 13:05:39 GMT
I remember seeing Heskey give one of the best individual performances I have ever witnessed. It was at Pride Park in his Liverpool days. Star man Michael Owen was stretchered off after about 15 minutes and Heskey stepped up to the plate to rattle in a tremendous hat-trick. I think Liverpool won 4-0.
OK, that was probably about 8 years ago now, but Heskey is a good targetman. He might not score as many goals as he should but, for anything below £3.5 million we should sign him up. He is currently in England's starting line-up for a reason. He links perfectly and would be ideal for Ric to feed off.
I hope this happens.
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Post by jezzascfc on May 21, 2010 13:21:40 GMT
Knowlesy - the voice of reason!! ;D
Each year we have to try to gradually get better than the year before. Is Heskey better than Mama and this last season's version of Beattie? Yes. If we sell Beattie for 2m and sign Heskey for 2m is that a good bit of business? Bloody hell, yes.
People are expecting miracles - outside of ourselves and a select few pundits, we are just not a very attractive proposition for the 10/15m strikers, I am afraid (that is, even if we are prepared to pay that much and the stratospheric wages that go with it).
As long as Heskey is not the only striker we bring in, and the other one is younger and pacey, with more of an eye for goal, I do not see what the problem is with his possible arrival, I really don't.
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Post by ratm on May 21, 2010 13:22:07 GMT
I'd have him for £2M like a ruddy shot, an England forward playing up front for Stoke, yes please, plus TP will get him in shape and firing again, ala ADE style. firing again???? he's only ever fired for half a season when he first joined Liverpool, the standard in this league was shite back then
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Post by staliondal on May 21, 2010 13:34:28 GMT
Knowlesy - the voice of reason!! ;D Each year we have to try to gradually get better than the year before. Is Heskey better than Mama and this last season's version of Beattie? Yes. If we sell Beattie for 2m and sign Heskey for 2m is that a good bit of business? Bloody hell, yes. People are expecting miracles - outside of ourselves and a select few pundits, we are just not a very attractive proposition for the 10/15m strikers, I am afraid (that is, even if we are prepared to pay that much and the stratospheric wages that go with it). As long as Heskey is not the only striker we bring in, and the other one is younger and pacey, with more of an eye for goal, I do not see what the problem is with his possible arrival, I really don't. spot on
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Post by knowles on May 21, 2010 13:58:55 GMT
Knowlesy - the voice of reason!! ;D Spot on ;D ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif) Signing Heskey would be a big coup for us in my opinion.
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Post by gzirastokie on May 21, 2010 14:16:34 GMT
i really hope this dont happen...........in the same paper yesterday (mail)... there he was with his personal fortune of £12,ooo,ooo so cant see him being up for what would be expected of him at Stoke
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Post by nott1 on May 21, 2010 14:38:24 GMT
If we manage to drive his tendency to spend 90 minutes cheating and feigning injury out of him, it's a good signing at that price. That'll be o.k when he does it for US! ;D
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Post by march4 on May 21, 2010 15:44:07 GMT
He also lives in Cheshire so it is a doddle of a journey to Stoke.
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Post by griffoisalegend on May 21, 2010 16:31:11 GMT
What the fuck, talking about "pushing on" already, what exactly is "pushing on", we're never going to get the top 8, we finished 11th this year, i just don't get it. If you mean playing better football, i think it'll happen eventually, i actually think we've played better stuff this year, some of our goals, on the counter attack especially have been very good. You only have to look at Wigan, play some decent stuff but are ALWAYS going to be lower than us in the table. It'll take time as well though, and i'd personally rather see us play "shit" football for 5 years just to consolidate our position - because in terms of attracting players, imo we're against teams like Birmingham, Bolton, Fulham and so forth, I still don't feel we're a properly established premiership team after just two very good seasons. I can't quite believe how people slate signings, Huth and Shawcross are easily the two best young centre backs in the top division, Begovic looks like a top keeper at 22 - i'd never thought i'd see these players play for Stoke. And that's forgetting the quality of Etherington and Fuller going forward. Obviously people feel more comfortable to talk about the negatives, and i suppose as this is a messageboard, and negatives bring more talking points,it's only natural - but i don't think this "pushing on" business is fair on Pulis, the guy will always be hated by some and they'll find anything to have a jibe at him, even after three unbelievable seasons. In my opinion, every year our first objective must be simply to stay up, and then see where we go from there. However a minority of fans feel as though we SHOULD be in that top 10 next year, whilst playing better football - it really doesn't work like that. Why people have to be so negative about three of the most succesful season's we've had is beyond me. And as for Heskey, having England's striker for one year wouldn't hurt, would it? also id like to use fulham as an example, a smaller club than ourselves got to the uefa cup final, so with the funds we have, why couldnt we try to at least qualify? id call that pushing on myself. The difference is, they've been in the premiership TEN years, we've been in it about 20 months. I'm sorry, but it's taken them a long time to build as a football club, you could say that Roy Hodgson was the sole reason but they were still a premiership side for 7 or 8 seasons before that. People are getting way too ahead of themselves, we're still very much in our nappies as a premiership club at the moment, and i'd say Emile Heskey would be a brilliant signing, even if we only get one year out of him. I can't believe you're suggesting that we are actually capable of breaking into the top 8 - have you seen how established as premier league clubs they are? Have you seen the players they have, and can attract? The amount of fans which watch them every week? We're playing in a different league in my opinion. We've had two very good seasons, but come on, this isn't football manager 2010, it's going to take a very long time. Talk of the Europa league is ridiculous, if we get in a situation where it's possible one year with 10 games to go, then great - but to be targeting before our 3rd season in the premiership has begun is stupid.
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Post by ColonelMustard on May 21, 2010 16:36:29 GMT
Signing Heskey would be a big coup for us in my opinion. Not half Knowles, this thread seems to be taking an unexpected turn towards sanity.
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Post by st0kefc on May 21, 2010 17:00:02 GMT
Nice bloke, but thats it, sorry, but I cant see him coming, and I agree with earlier comments, 'we have already got one of those'! He is definately not for signing for us IMO
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 21, 2010 17:03:49 GMT
Knowlesy - the voice of reason!! ;D Each year we have to try to gradually get better than the year before. Is Heskey better than Mama and this last season's version of Beattie? Yes. If we sell Beattie for 2m and sign Heskey for 2m is that a good bit of business? Bloody hell, yes. People are expecting miracles - outside of ourselves and a select few pundits, we are just not a very attractive proposition for the 10/15m strikers, I am afraid (that is, even if we are prepared to pay that much and the stratospheric wages that go with it). As long as Heskey is not the only striker we bring in, and the other one is younger and pacey, with more of an eye for goal, I do not see what the problem is with his possible arrival, I really don't. On the opposite of Knowles' post I remember his performance here against Brum in the cup when Boskamp was manager. One of the worst performance I've seen from a player as he spent the 90 minutes on his arse whining at the ref at every opportunity. My problem with him is that I think he's shit to put it bluntly. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif)
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Post by pasa on May 21, 2010 17:30:27 GMT
Knowlesy - the voice of reason!! ;D Each year we have to try to gradually get better than the year before. Is Heskey better than Mama and this last season's version of Beattie? Yes. If we sell Beattie for 2m and sign Heskey for 2m is that a good bit of business? Bloody hell, yes. People are expecting miracles - outside of ourselves and a select few pundits, we are just not a very attractive proposition for the 10/15m strikers, I am afraid (that is, even if we are prepared to pay that much and the stratospheric wages that go with it). As long as Heskey is not the only striker we bring in, and the other one is younger and pacey, with more of an eye for goal, I do not see what the problem is with his possible arrival, I really don't. On the opposite of Knowles' post I remember his performance here against Brum in the cup when Boskamp was manager. One of the worst performance I've seen from a player as he spent the 90 minutes on his arse whining at the ref at every opportunity. My problem with him is that I think he's shit to put it bluntly. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif) if carlsburg made over-rated players...
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Post by lordb on May 21, 2010 19:08:16 GMT
I'm 99.99% certain TP's 1st choices for target men would be KYJ & C Cole. I'm 95% certain neither of these players would give SCFC a cursory glance .
Heskey for 2yrs would be OK as long as we can get another striker who is decent.
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Post by watcher on May 22, 2010 9:44:57 GMT
The question is do we wait for cole all summer then miss out?Haggle with sunderland over tuncay and jones and never get it sorted?Get heskey in while we can? or end up with mama for the start of next season.
Heskey for me is the most realistic target.Its a fact hes not a goal machine but has pace and is a cert to play with rooney in the world cup so for 2 mill i would snap villas hand off.
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Post by xchpotter on May 22, 2010 9:54:27 GMT
Sounds all well and good but he isn't getting any younger and his pace will go. He has had a lot of niggling calf and hamstring injuries this season...the very bits which are critical to pace. The other thing is, yes he his critical to how England plays, but lets not forget that the success he brings here is down to the calibre of players like Rooney, Defoe, Lampard etc...all who know how to strike a ball...we don't have that clinical finisher so Heskey would have to give us goals which isn't part of his game.So a no go for me personally. Never thought i'd say it but if he is the alternative to Mama then i'd rather we kept him and payed more money for a goal scorer.
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