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Post by kidsgrove4 on May 21, 2010 0:39:34 GMT
He's a bit older, but I think he could be great value. There's plenty of fine tunes played on old fiddles.
K4
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Post by Binndy on May 21, 2010 6:39:09 GMT
Heskey and jon walters up front then ,if we believe the paper reports. In Pulis we trust.
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Post by alexk on May 21, 2010 7:00:38 GMT
The main problem isn't his age. It's the fact that he's fucking hopeless.
I thought we needed goals?
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Post by Danstoke82 on May 21, 2010 7:05:41 GMT
£2mill is a steal for an England International.
Heskey was immense at Wigan and could do the same job here. Him and Tuncay upfront would be nice too see with Ric as the option to come on and rip up the opposition.
He may not score many goals but for that price I hope we get him.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on May 21, 2010 7:22:15 GMT
a little part of me wonders if we might be able to go for Carew in the transfer merry-go-round if Villa sign C-Cole, but he'd probably have offers from europe wouldn't he?
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Post by luke45 on May 21, 2010 7:34:22 GMT
Ysee - all you wierdos who dont think forwards need to score y'see theres these fucking things at each end of the pitch called GOALPOSTS and the idea is that your team scores goals in them USUALLY footballers who play up front are supposed to kick the ball or head it inot the goal just once in a while and as a result, your team wins matches and secures points and its what they (centre forwards) get paid for centre forwards who cant, dont, or wont score, are absolutely no fucking use at all ! is that so hard to understand ? can you still make excuses for forwards who dont ? are you managing to grasp this concept ? any of you ? FFS! I'm far from saying Heskey is prolific, but he has scored over 100 goals at PL level, and let's face it, do we have the status to attract many more players who can boast that? Top business at 2 Million IMO.
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Post by pasa on May 21, 2010 7:42:09 GMT
2 million for a 33 year old. Fuck me. ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/4tzqvp1fxEemag_TAXLJ.gif) agreed, 1 season out of him at best. whats happened to building for the future, its a quick fix then next season we'll be after another "mama player" ???
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Post by pasa on May 21, 2010 7:46:10 GMT
YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING IDEA HOW MUCH THE VERY IDEA OF YET ANOTHER USELESS NON GOALSCORING CENTRE FORWARD LIKE THIS WASTER IS - BEING CONNECTED WITH STOKE CITY HAS MADE ME FEEL season ticket in the bin of we sign this competely useless fuckwitt ! £2MILL A bargain ??????? - my fecking spotty arse ! jesus wept - we've got fucking one of these already ! more goal threat in a dead sheep ! spot on! apart from the season ticket part, was thinking of getting one myself this season but if he comes i'll think twice, the thought of watching emile on my arse heskey in the wankest stoke shirt i can remember isnt exactly pushing my buttons. ![:-/](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/vEIFeJPtIIq1awrUd6zP.gif)
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Post by oaties on May 21, 2010 7:49:47 GMT
Makes me chuckle this forum does so much.
So many moan on here about we dont score we need quality forwards etc... Most moan about Mamma not being able hit a cows arse with a banjo.
Then in the same breath are getting all excited by signing a 33 year old journeyman so renound for not scoring. Add to that he falls over a lot and isn't quick either.
Some people on here look at years ago because he once played for Liverpool so he still must be good.
Everyone was getting excited about big money transfers etc... lets look at our interest from the papers so far.
Heskey Walters Ledley
Fuck me someone pass me the tissues... I really have a dislike for Pulis and his whole attitude to football. If anyone was hoping for big names and some better flowing football next year then god help you.
We will still be watching the god awful hit and hope with players no better than what we have.
This club will struggle next year that i garuntee, we've over achieved with the players we got for the past 2 years.
ow lets look at next years starting 11 to get us all excited
Sorenson Huth - ShawX - Faye - Higgy Delap - Whelan - Whitehead - Ethers Walters - Mamma
Then a highly impresive bench of:
Begovic Wilko Collins Ledley Tuncay Fuller
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Post by oaties on May 21, 2010 7:50:42 GMT
YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING IDEA HOW MUCH THE VERY IDEA OF YET ANOTHER USELESS NON GOALSCORING CENTRE FORWARD LIKE THIS WASTER IS - BEING CONNECTED WITH STOKE CITY HAS MADE ME FEEL season ticket in the bin of we sign this competely useless fuckwitt ! £2MILL A bargain ??????? - my fecking spotty arse ! jesus wept - we've got fucking one of these already ! more goal threat in a dead sheep ! spot on! apart from the season ticket part, was thinking of getting one myself this season but if he comes i'll think twice, the thought of watching emile on my arse heskey in the wankest stoke shirt i can remember isnt exactly pushing my buttons. ![:-/](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/vEIFeJPtIIq1awrUd6zP.gif) Dont forget Walters and Ledley ripping up the Premier League too.
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Post by oaties on May 21, 2010 7:52:02 GMT
Pulis is so scared of youth and talent its actually quite embarassing, pretty much like his tactics and his ability to destroy any player with flair we have..
Watching Stoke is like banging a fat chick, it was god awful but every now and again you get the job done.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2010 7:52:14 GMT
spot on! apart from the season ticket part, was thinking of getting one myself this season but if he comes i'll think twice, the thought of watching emile on my arse heskey in the wankest stoke shirt i can remember isnt exactly pushing my buttons. ![:-/](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/vEIFeJPtIIq1awrUd6zP.gif) Dont forget Walters and Ledley ripping up the Premier League too. It's all just paper talk yet mate, so why the tears? Who would you like to see us go for?
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2010 7:53:30 GMT
Pulis is so scared of youth and talent its actually quite embarassing, pretty much like his tactics and his ability to destroy any player with flair we have.. Watching Stoke is like banging a fat chick, it was god awful but every now and again you get the job done. Apart from Fuller you mean. And Etherington. Don't Begovic and Shawcross fall under "youth and talent"?
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Post by oaties on May 21, 2010 7:55:19 GMT
So what we're all saying is to solve our problem of having one of the lowest goals scored tallies is to sign Heskey correct? So to add to what Fullers 3 and Mammas 3 at a guess we need another striker to score 3 a season. With that logic we could have 3/4 forwards banging in a combined amount of 10 to 12 goals next season. Fuck me my pulse is racing! Go get him tone... Not to forget we need to up our average age I mean the following are too young Sorro Faye Higgy Delap Beattie Fuller Mamma Heskey isn't played for his goals though. England were the top goalscorers in all of qualifying with him in the side - he's played for the space he creates by dragging defenders out of position - space for England that allowed Rooney, Gerrard, Walcott etc to flourish and arguably would Fuller, Ethers, Tuncay etc in ours Funnily enough we dont have Lampard, Gerrard, Walcott, Rooney etc... We have a slow and ineffective Delap, 1 in 5 game Whelan. Also lets look at the opposition England played in the qualies, so makes it a pretty pointless comment.
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Post by oaties on May 21, 2010 7:56:39 GMT
Heskey would be the 'safe option' Safe as in £2m for a proven target man, instead of £10m+ for a Carlton Cole or Kenwyne Jones He's 33 with no pace, no quality!
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Post by oaties on May 21, 2010 7:58:17 GMT
Pulis is so scared of youth and talent its actually quite embarassing, pretty much like his tactics and his ability to destroy any player with flair we have.. Watching Stoke is like banging a fat chick, it was god awful but every now and again you get the job done. Apart from Fuller you mean. And Etherington. Don't Begovic and Shawcross fall under "youth and talent"? So we have 2 youth and 2 with skill, fuck me thats proved me wrong! I must have missed all the flowing football and flair on show!
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2010 7:58:40 GMT
Heskey isn't played for his goals though. England were the top goalscorers in all of qualifying with him in the side - he's played for the space he creates by dragging defenders out of position - space for England that allowed Rooney, Gerrard, Walcott etc to flourish and arguably would Fuller, Ethers, Tuncay etc in ours Funnily enough we dont have Lampard, Gerrard, Walcott, Rooney etc... We have a slow and ineffective Delap, 1 in 5 game Whelan. Also lets look at the opposition England played in the qualies, so makes it a pretty pointless comment. You mean the group with never-defeated at home Croatia and the never-easy Ukraine in? Pretty much identical to the one McClaren's team failed to qualify from? If we sign the right players, say a Jenas and Pennant, then I think the space Heskey would create MIGHT prove an asset that helps us score more goals even if not prolific himself. I'm just saying I can see that side of the argument.
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Post by oaties on May 21, 2010 7:59:47 GMT
Dont forget Walters and Ledley ripping up the Premier League too. It's all just paper talk yet mate, so why the tears? Who would you like to see us go for? In all honesty mate someone with some legs, we are desireable but we can do better than that. We should be following in Wigans foot steps and exploiting the much cheaper foreign market. I know its only paper talk but we both know these players are Pulis wet dream.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2010 7:59:59 GMT
Apart from Fuller you mean. And Etherington. Don't Begovic and Shawcross fall under "youth and talent"? So we have 2 youth and 2 with skill, fuck me thats proved me wrong! I must have missed all the flowing football and flair on show! How many teams establish themselves in the Premier League with "flowing football and flair"? How many teams outside the top 6 play that kind of football? Wake up mate.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2010 8:00:36 GMT
It's all just paper talk yet mate, so why the tears? Who would you like to see us go for? In all honesty mate someone with some legs, we are desireable but we can do better than that. We should be following in Wigans foot steps and exploiting the much cheaper foreign market. I know its only paper talk but we both know these players are Pulis wet dream. Agree about the foreign market.
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Post by ColonelMustard on May 21, 2010 8:02:29 GMT
Heskey would be a good option imo. Not exactly one for the future but as far as I am aware not a 'boat rocker' and better than what we have for that position for the coming season.
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Post by ratm on May 21, 2010 8:02:57 GMT
This is an OK deal provided we bring in a 10-15m striker as well
If Heskey is our only signing up front I'll be very disappointed
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Post by french toast on May 21, 2010 8:02:56 GMT
'withdrawn target man' 'withdrawn target man' = is that some kind of mental illness ? I'd fucking withdraw him with my boot up his sorry arse usless bastard ! if i was a betting man, and you did that to heskey, i think you would be having all your meals through a straw for a few weeks
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Post by pasa on May 21, 2010 8:09:13 GMT
Makes me chuckle this forum does so much. So many moan on here about we dont score we need quality forwards etc... Most moan about Mamma not being able hit a cows arse with a banjo. Then in the same breath are getting all excited by signing a 33 year old journeyman so renound for not scoring. Add to that he falls over a lot and isn't quick either. Some people on here look at years ago because he once played for Liverpool so he still must be good. Everyone was getting excited about big money transfers etc... lets look at our interest from the papers so far. Heskey Walters Ledley Fuck me someone pass me the tissues... I really have a dislike for Pulis and his whole attitude to football. If anyone was hoping for big names and some better flowing football next year then god help you. We will still be watching the god awful hit and hope with players no better than what we have. This club will struggle next year that i garuntee, we've over achieved with the players we got for the past 2 years. ow lets look at next years starting 11 to get us all excited Sorenson Huth - Shawcross - Faye - Higgy Delap - Whelan - Whitehead - Ethers Walters - Mamma Then a highly impresive bench of: Begovic Wilko Collins Ledley Tuncay Fuller get this man a drink, i wish i could put my thoughts into words as real and meaningfull as that. i dont dislike pulis because of what he's done for the club, increased gates, established us etc etc, i dont think we'll struggle, a TP team never will imo, he's safety first all the way, but when we are like that i find it difficult to see how we will "push on" i agree with everything else though, nice one. we have over achieved for the past couple of seasons and by purchasing average prem players and championship players because they have good attitudes is wrong imo. all the better players have ego's, pulis as a premiership manager has to learn how to deal with them or we will never "push on".
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on May 21, 2010 8:12:18 GMT
'withdrawn target man' 'withdrawn target man' = is that some kind of mental illness ? I'd fucking withdraw him with my boot up his sorry arse usless bastard ! if i was a betting man, and you did that to heskey, i think you would be having all your meals through a straw for a few weeks ;D Naaa, he's a right aaard' bastard. See, it's his avatar, see.
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Post by pasa on May 21, 2010 8:19:39 GMT
Ysee - all you wierdos who dont think forwards need to score y'see theres these fucking things at each end of the pitch called GOALPOSTS and the idea is that your team scores goals in them USUALLY footballers who play up front are supposed to kick the ball or head it inot the goal just once in a while and as a result, your team wins matches and secures points and its what they (centre forwards) get paid for centre forwards who cant, dont, or wont score, are absolutely no fucking use at all ! is that so hard to understand ? can you still make excuses for forwards who dont ? are you managing to grasp this concept ? any of you ? FFS! ;D ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/ibnJJzaA6ZhfTOIekEAf.gif)
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Post by griffoisalegend on May 21, 2010 8:24:56 GMT
What the fuck, talking about "pushing on" already, what exactly is "pushing on", we're never going to get the top 8, we finished 11th this year, i just don't get it.
If you mean playing better football, i think it'll happen eventually, i actually think we've played better stuff this year, some of our goals, on the counter attack especially have been very good. You only have to look at Wigan, play some decent stuff but are ALWAYS going to be lower than us in the table. It'll take time as well though, and i'd personally rather see us play "shit" football for 5 years just to consolidate our position - because in terms of attracting players, imo we're against teams like Birmingham, Bolton, Fulham and so forth, I still don't feel we're a properly established premiership team after just two very good seasons.
I can't quite believe how people slate signings, Huth and Shawcross are easily the two best young centre backs in the top division, Begovic looks like a top keeper at 22 - i'd never thought i'd see these players play for Stoke. And that's forgetting the quality of Etherington and Fuller going forward.
Obviously people feel more comfortable to talk about the negatives, and i suppose as this is a messageboard, and negatives bring more talking points,it's only natural - but i don't think this "pushing on" business is fair on Pulis, the guy will always be hated by some and they'll find anything to have a jibe at him, even after three unbelievable seasons.
In my opinion, every year our first objective must be simply to stay up, and then see where we go from there. However a minority of fans feel as though we SHOULD be in that top 10 next year, whilst playing better football - it really doesn't work like that.
Why people have to be so negative about three of the most succesful season's we've had is beyond me.
And as for Heskey, having England's striker for one year wouldn't hurt, would it?
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Post by soicowboy2 on May 21, 2010 8:47:29 GMT
Sad isn't it...? Why .? Why not go for someone younger who can score goals...? Yeah it's very sad that after a whole two years in the Prem we are targetting a player in England's World Cup squad. We really have to show more ambition or some need a reality check You decide
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Post by pasa on May 21, 2010 8:48:47 GMT
What the fuck, talking about "pushing on" already, what exactly is "pushing on", we're never going to get the top 8, we finished 11th this year, i just don't get it. If you mean playing better football, i think it'll happen eventually, i actually think we've played better stuff this year, some of our goals, on the counter attack especially have been very good. You only have to look at Wigan, play some decent stuff but are ALWAYS going to be lower than us in the table. It'll take time as well though, and i'd personally rather see us play "shit" football for 5 years just to consolidate our position - because in terms of attracting players, imo we're against teams like Birmingham, Bolton, Fulham and so forth, I still don't feel we're a properly established premiership team after just two very good seasons. I can't quite believe how people slate signings, Huth and Shawcross are easily the two best young centre backs in the top division, Begovic looks like a top keeper at 22 - i'd never thought i'd see these players play for Stoke. And that's forgetting the quality of Etherington and Fuller going forward. Obviously people feel more comfortable to talk about the negatives, and i suppose as this is a messageboard, and negatives bring more talking points,it's only natural - but i don't think this "pushing on" business is fair on Pulis, the guy will always be hated by some and they'll find anything to have a jibe at him, even after three unbelievable seasons. In my opinion, every year our first objective must be simply to stay up, and then see where we go from there. However a minority of fans feel as though we SHOULD be in that top 10 next year, whilst playing better football - it really doesn't work like that. Why people have to be so negative about three of the most succesful season's we've had is beyond me. And as for Heskey, having England's striker for one year wouldn't hurt, would it? your right, we have a solid defence, so why not use the foreign market and take a gamble on a couple of forwards that might actually score some goals. your right, we'll never move forward when we are attracting the same standard of player because we wont shop in the european market. we will struggle each year to attract any better british based quality than we have now.
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Post by pasa on May 21, 2010 8:50:07 GMT
What the fuck, talking about "pushing on" already, what exactly is "pushing on", we're never going to get the top 8, we finished 11th this year, i just don't get it. If you mean playing better football, i think it'll happen eventually, i actually think we've played better stuff this year, some of our goals, on the counter attack especially have been very good. You only have to look at Wigan, play some decent stuff but are ALWAYS going to be lower than us in the table. It'll take time as well though, and i'd personally rather see us play "shit" football for 5 years just to consolidate our position - because in terms of attracting players, imo we're against teams like Birmingham, Bolton, Fulham and so forth, I still don't feel we're a properly established premiership team after just two very good seasons. I can't quite believe how people slate signings, Huth and Shawcross are easily the two best young centre backs in the top division, Begovic looks like a top keeper at 22 - i'd never thought i'd see these players play for Stoke. And that's forgetting the quality of Etherington and Fuller going forward. Obviously people feel more comfortable to talk about the negatives, and i suppose as this is a messageboard, and negatives bring more talking points,it's only natural - but i don't think this "pushing on" business is fair on Pulis, the guy will always be hated by some and they'll find anything to have a jibe at him, even after three unbelievable seasons. In my opinion, every year our first objective must be simply to stay up, and then see where we go from there. However a minority of fans feel as though we SHOULD be in that top 10 next year, whilst playing better football - it really doesn't work like that. Why people have to be so negative about three of the most succesful season's we've had is beyond me. And as for Heskey, having England's striker for one year wouldn't hurt, would it? also id like to use fulham as an example, a smaller club than ourselves got to the uefa cup final, so with the funds we have, why couldnt we try to at least qualify? id call that pushing on myself.
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