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Post by wigginbird on May 11, 2010 6:14:10 GMT
If the price is a few crates of wrights pies for Ashley, then go for it, if its owt more then he's overpriced. He should be on a our C list of targets
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Post by Northy on May 11, 2010 6:28:46 GMT
He scored a good goal against us at the Brit, you couldn't see mama doing that, or bagging 20 in the championship. there again would Carroll be happy tracking back to his own box chasing midfielders every 2 minutes? I'd like to take a look at him for a season.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on May 11, 2010 6:40:30 GMT
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Post by Danstoke82 on May 11, 2010 7:13:01 GMT
Im not sure about Caroll, one decent season in the Championship wouldnt make him good for us.
Besides how unrealistic can that be? he's a Newcastle lad, he's just got promoted with his boyhood club to the Premier League...why would he now leave them?!!?
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Post by Irish Stokie on May 11, 2010 8:09:03 GMT
This thread has decended into complete hysteria, Carroll is not and never will be one of the hottest prospects in English football. He is an extremely average Prem player and if we are to move on continue or progress we need to be looking at players proven in the Prem and that arent hugely overrated, or we could go down the overrated road and get him and Ledley
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Post by RINGO STARR on May 11, 2010 8:20:47 GMT
The signing of Carroll will only be a good on if we swap him for Kitson/Beattie and someone else (Tongue/Sonko etc etc).
If we were to lose Tuncay and replace hi with Carrol it would be a disastrous move and would not state our intentions on improving our playing squad.
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Post by jimmygscfc on May 11, 2010 8:33:22 GMT
Irish, you can't really rate him as a Prem player though can you as he hardly featured in their relegation season to my knowledge. However, the point surely is whether he's available. Unless Newcastle are getting rid as a disciplinary measure I can't see it myself.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on May 11, 2010 8:40:32 GMT
Newcastle have been told there will be no new money for transfers. So they have to sell to buy. Whether Carroll would be one of those they would sell is open to question but Carroll is one of their more saleable players - whatever some on here think!
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Post by Inverness Stokie on May 11, 2010 8:44:06 GMT
I don't think Carroll is likely to ever leave Newcastle, his boyhood team have just got promoted back to the Premier League, why would he leave them now? I do think that Carlton Cole would come to Stoke though, well I hope he would, Fuller and him up front would be awesome, 2 strikers that do actually know where the goal is and don't need a compass to bloody well find it.
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Post by ti on May 11, 2010 8:50:24 GMT
lets face it, if kitson and beattie are off our books, who ever comes in is going to representa brilliant deal for the club. whether you rate Carrol or not he certainly is going to be alot more effective than that pair.
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Post by RINGO STARR on May 11, 2010 9:03:59 GMT
I'm still unsure on Carlton Cole/ Kenwyne Jones/ Andy Carroll.
One things for sure though as ti states, its certainly better to have these players here than Kitson and Beattie who don't want to be here.
i just hope and pray that we don't lose tuncay before these pair of wasacks are moved on.
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Post by eddyclamp on May 11, 2010 9:08:55 GMT
as newcastle have no money to invest in the squad,I find it strange that they would let a goal scorer go.IMO the toon can`t rate Carroll or he is a bad apple if they are prepared to sell.
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Post by RINGO STARR on May 11, 2010 9:16:34 GMT
as newcastle have no money to invest in the squad,I find it strange that they would let a goal scorer go.IMO the toon can`t rate Carroll or he is a bad apple if they are prepared to sell. Depends what the deal is though. If they can get James Beattie in and another player for their squad then they may see that as being more beneficial than having one player there who has in the past had issues at the club. They'll see Beattie as a Premier league proven goalscorer where as Carrol has yet to score regualarly at this level. They know that next season will be a tough one and that goals will be the difference in their survival. I think we all forget James Beattie's pedigree in the Premier league. I don't think it'll be hard to get a buyer for him. He's gone down in my estimations due to his lack of professionalism but certain teams wanting to stay in th ePremier league next season will see Beattie as a good investment.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2010 9:18:07 GMT
I think it was, if we can bring in better midfielders, who CAN pass the ball to feet, maybe a couple of passing full backs, Tuncay would be an good asset to us, especially against the poorer teams in the league. If he went in a swap, we'd be getting a very poor deal in my oppinion. Someone like Downing and Johnson for instance. Oh hang on a minute someone tried that once before and look how that finished.
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on May 11, 2010 9:23:48 GMT
I don't think I can stress just how much I DO NOT want to see Andy Carroll in a Stoke shirt.
He is a 'grade A' wanker. And we're not talking pissy Fuller slaps, stroppy ginger lads and crying overpaid 'half a season' wonders here. Uttercunt. Besides this, he is over-rated anyhow.
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on May 11, 2010 9:25:41 GMT
I think it was, if we can bring in better midfielders, who CAN pass the ball to feet, maybe a couple of passing full backs, Tuncay would be an good asset to us, especially against the poorer teams in the league. If he went in a swap, we'd be getting a very poor deal in my oppinion. Someone like Downing and Johnson for instance. Oh hang on a minute someone tried that once before and look how that finished. How? With Tuncay being one of the better players relegated from the Premiership and earning a move straight back to the top flight, along with both of the mentioned midfielders?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2010 9:55:15 GMT
Someone like Downing and Johnson for instance. Oh hang on a minute someone tried that once before and look how that finished. How? With Tuncay being one of the better players relegated from the Premiership and earning a move straight back to the top flight, along with both of the mentioned midfielders? So we get relegated but Tuncay is ok because some other mug buys him off us.
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on May 11, 2010 10:26:29 GMT
How? With Tuncay being one of the better players relegated from the Premiership and earning a move straight back to the top flight, along with both of the mentioned midfielders? So we get relegated but Tuncay is ok because some other mug buys him off us. Ahh apologies, I don't think I understood your point first time around, I see it better now.. When a team is relegated from the top flight and sentenced to spent the next 12 months plus as Premier League outcasts, the curse is also inflicted onto any player associated with said club. The curse is then passed onto any other club that holds the misfortune of wrongly assuming that Premiership quality players can be relegated as part of a poor club. I'll be sure to mention it to Villa and Citeh.
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Post by dozintheseventees on May 11, 2010 11:09:20 GMT
I think we should sign Pennant, Barton and Bowyer as they'll do far less damage to the dressing room spirit. Those three are running out of 'juice' as grade A wankers whereas Carroll is just setting out on his adventures as a complete tosser and has a great deal of mileage left in him.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 11, 2010 11:53:16 GMT
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Post by realstokebloke on May 11, 2010 12:15:19 GMT
Tony has big, big man love for this "kiddie" no question.
And given the lack of firepower we'll have when we-all-know-who depart, then i really think we could do worse.
On the pitch anyway. Off the pitch; well, that's the risk we'd take.
Equally & understandably, he doesn't want to go anywhere it seems.
We will bid & they will reject it, so let's just get on with it & not leave it all 'til deadline day & move on, eh Tone?
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on May 11, 2010 12:15:38 GMT
Phew.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on May 11, 2010 12:23:13 GMT
I'm to be proved wrong on Carroll as I don't think he's that great? Having said that he'll bag 20 goals next season!
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