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Post by fortressbrit on Apr 11, 2010 13:19:26 GMT
Totally wrong again faf! At best a League 2 player playing in the Premier League ! ;D i actually thought about saying that but didnt want to be too harsh for the sake of March ;D yeah but youre glad he signed a new contract with us "cuz hes a nice bloke", ;Dyou tit.
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Post by labyrinth on Apr 11, 2010 13:20:06 GMT
Of cause the game changed when Mama went off. TP brought on a midfield player as a replacement so the play was obviously going to drop down the pitch. It was clear TP wnated the draw.
Would have loved to have seen Moult though as his pace would have been useful and know he would perform well with Tunny.
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Post by march4 on Apr 11, 2010 13:22:12 GMT
Of cause the game changed when Mama went off. TP brought on a midfield player as a replacement so the play was obviously going to drop down the pitch. It was clear TP wnated the draw. Would have loved to have seen Moult though as his pace would have been useful and know he would perform well with Tunny. It changed last week when he came on. Today told us that Tuncay is not effective enough. Moult was a better option. Why is Kitson always knackered after 30 mins. He doesn't do that much work.
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Post by Cyprusdelilah on Apr 11, 2010 13:51:13 GMT
So why is the team more effective with him in it than it is without him. Just look at what happened today after he went off. The team was not as effective for one reason because Kitson went off, he wins more header's than Sidibe, hold's the ball up better, more skill, better passer and wins more fouls for the team. The only place the donkey is better, is chasing down in midfield.
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Post by march4 on Apr 11, 2010 13:53:38 GMT
So why is the team more effective with him in it than it is without him. Just look at what happened today after he went off. The team was not as effective for one reason because Kitson went off, he wins more header's than Sidibe, hold's the ball up better, more skill, better passer and wins more fouls for the team. The only place the donkey is better, is chasing down in midfield. Kitson did nothing today and looked knackered after 30 mins again!!!! Mama held the team shape together during a first half that saw our longest sustained period of pressure away from home in the Prem.
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Post by staliondal on Apr 11, 2010 13:56:17 GMT
I do like Mama but he hasn't played well in a long time
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Post by march4 on Apr 11, 2010 13:58:33 GMT
I do like Mama but he hasn't played well in a long time True, he needs replacing by a 'Mama with goals', but at the moment, he is the best we have for the fulcrum position.
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Post by henry on Apr 11, 2010 14:02:00 GMT
for a target man you have to admire the way he ducks out of the way when trying to win headers.
a one dimensional approach to football that usually leads to a dreadful spectacle followed by the words "we can't play much worse than that again"
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Apr 11, 2010 14:22:59 GMT
Mama does no running/harrying or chasing the ball down - get it into your heads!
Can you not see the light march? Mama went off and we replaced him with a midfielder. Therefore we were not going to have an attacking threat when we constantly hoofed the ball up to a player who is just 6ft and he is being marked by 2 6ft3 centre halves and 2 full backs covering.
If Pulis had took Whelan off and put Moult upfront then we would have been more of a threat, but again, away from home, he shat himself and thought that we had better defend for our lives against a team who've scored 10 goals at home all season.
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Post by johnnydenz on Apr 11, 2010 14:23:31 GMT
he is well short of prem football class just ain,t good enough
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 11, 2010 14:26:31 GMT
Mama does no running/harrying or chasing the ball down - get it into your heads! I'd go with that. I didn't watch the game today but since he's been back Mama has been lazy.
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Post by alexk on Apr 11, 2010 15:10:09 GMT
Just because he's been at the club a long time, it DOES NOT mean he's been a 'great servant' He's been entirely useless the whole time he's been at the club.
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Post by tony harrison on Apr 11, 2010 15:31:27 GMT
He was ok for the championship but premier league, no way.
Not good enough, should be on the subs bench at the most. How can Liam play poor last week but score a goal be left out when Mama plays poor with no goals.
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Post by fan4life on Apr 11, 2010 15:53:53 GMT
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Post by serpico on Apr 11, 2010 15:58:40 GMT
To follow on from March4, If Mama was so bad then why did the whole game change when he went off? Our entire attacking play stopped instantly. I sometimes wonder just what game people are watching. Really I do. All the set plays we had when Mama was on the pitch. Tuncay destroyed any attacking intent we might have had. Why was Kitson knackered after 30 mins again. Jesus March, enough with the Tuncay bashing, what did you expect him to do ??? come on and somehow magically make the ball come to him ? where's the service ? (and i don;t mean a punt aimed in his general direction) .
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Post by cliffo23 on Apr 11, 2010 16:14:18 GMT
Can't believe that miss, shocking!! Poor technique, whoever told mama he was a centre forward must have been blind
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Post by actongatestokie on Apr 11, 2010 16:15:57 GMT
What about Kitson's miss?
I can't believe nobody wants to discuss it?
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Post by harvinator on Apr 11, 2010 18:53:18 GMT
The game changed when Kitson came off not Mama.It wouldnt suprise me if Mama faked an injury to just get off the pitch because he new TP wouldnt take him off.Leave him on the bench and let him have a rest for a bit.
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Post by cliffo23 on Apr 11, 2010 18:58:39 GMT
Basically what we are saying here is that in the summer tony needs to buy a striker who is tall, can score, win headers & flickons and pass the ball. Thats the only way i can see mama leaving the club or at least not be on the 1st team sheet ::)Carew & zigic are two i can think of.
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Post by RAF on Apr 11, 2010 19:02:09 GMT
I don't see the point in kicking the bloke when he is down. All it will do is make TP want to play him more just to try and prove a point if we keep getting on the blokes back. The facts remain that TP loves him and sees him as his best option and until that changes we will be seeing him played every week. Another fact is that Mama is just not up to the task anymore. That glaring miss today pretty much proved that. All this bullshit like 'Mama isn't a striker he's a target man' is a pile of excuse making spunk. He is employed by Stoke City as a striker and his goal scoring record is embarrassing. Great bloke, poor footballer.
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Post by alster on Apr 11, 2010 19:04:55 GMT
a Championship quality player playing in the Premier League ! Did you not see him in the CCC he was not good enough at that level either.
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Post by samblano on Apr 11, 2010 19:07:10 GMT
Mama has been agreat asset to the club BUT those days are in the past he needs to move on in the summer. Please Daveeeee sort it out.
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Post by bunnyscfc on Apr 11, 2010 19:08:26 GMT
He's no target man RAF. His touch is non-existant, and his work rate is totally eclipsed by Ric who does ALL the channel running.
Mama simply stands in the middle of the pitch, around 40 yards from goal, and we kick it somewhere in that direction. He then wins few headers and when he does, never heads it in Ric's direction. name me a goal that Mama has set up with a flick on like Fuller's v Hull last week.
There probably is one, due to law of average, but in 4 years there have been few. Ric's been isolated for too long now.
And all this 'Mama position' bumf is just rubbish. The biggest urban myth since the moon was made of cream cheese. There is a Mama position. It's called the bench.
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Post by rambo61 on Apr 11, 2010 19:09:38 GMT
Tuncay was crap for the exact same reason that Kitson was crap, he got fuck all service. And Mamma got better service did he??!! f.f.s if it applies to Tuncay and Kitson then it MUST apply to Sidibe!!! ??? ???
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Post by cliffo23 on Apr 11, 2010 19:15:46 GMT
So why is the team more effective with him in it than it is without him. Just look at what happened today after he went off. What did he do when he was on? Apart from miss a chance that he should have at least hit the target. At least tuncay chases down, puts pressure on the defenders and has a bit of energy!
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Post by skilljim on Apr 11, 2010 19:17:32 GMT
Well, I know everyone loves Sid, or atleast tries to, but I just can't understand why he's getting to play so much football, and Tuncay is left on the bench waiting for the 70th minute if he's lucky. It's a joke really, I wonder if it was the other way round and we had Tuncay from the start and we signed Sidibe up in the summer he'd be playing so much football?
This is a quote from TP today, on the Stoke site - "Mama, who had a superb game for us should have done better in the second half..."
Superb game? I really don't know what TP is seeing when Mama is on the pitch, cause I can't see it, he's trying to be like Ric lately, holding the ball up, but he's holding it too long and he's losing it too easily. Even though we use him as a target man, he rarely jumps higher than the defender standing behind him. Kitson won more flick on's...
Don't get me wrong, I like Mama...but only when Fuller, Tuncay, Beattie and Kitson are all injured...
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Apr 11, 2010 19:19:05 GMT
The way I see it is that we have 5 forwards..Ric..Kits..Tunc..BT and Mama..and only one of them is any good
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Post by bunnyscfc on Apr 11, 2010 19:21:28 GMT
but the 'service' that our strikers get is so much more suited to the giant Sidibe than it ever will be for Tuncay.
Yup, the Turkish skipper has been disappointing in some games, but how often do we get the ball to the lads feet?
Difference is, we don't want it going to Mama's feet - hence the service.
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Post by PickSCFC on Apr 11, 2010 19:23:45 GMT
this fucking board is embarrassing ffs, we draw a game of football away from home and the board goes into melt down, some of you need to take a long hard look at yourselves, we are 10th in the league yet still people fucking moan
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Post by PickSCFC on Apr 11, 2010 19:24:41 GMT
Just because he's been at the club a long time, it DOES NOT mean he's been a 'great servant' He's been entirely useless the whole time he's been at the club. what a complete bell end
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