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Post by bash62 on Nov 9, 2009 0:28:24 GMT
if the lord had not got sent of would we have lost ? lets sack pulis and get who any of the pricks we have tried before . pulis will sort it .
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Post by swampySCFC on Nov 9, 2009 0:32:46 GMT
If it had been Fuller some supporters would want him hanging from the lamposts in Castle.
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Post by steinovschmeichel on Nov 9, 2009 0:48:37 GMT
Tuncay should have clapped the supports and got off the pitch and if needed throw a hissy fit in dressing room but he humilated himself with his actions and probably cost us the game coz it took the others players minds of their job at time. I for one couldn't give a fuck if tuncay never played again for us. And talk of splits after 2 poor results is taking the piss. People must be blind and dumb if can't see what pulis has done for this club and will continue too
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 9, 2009 0:54:38 GMT
he humilated himself with his actions and probably cost us the game coz it took the others players minds of their job at time. Quality. ;D
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Post by OldStokie on Nov 9, 2009 0:54:55 GMT
He has two degrees, alan. I know you wouldn't think so, but so he says. Well, AGSF had. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/cj7bsBj2jOTuEAUVaPt5.gif) steino v schmeichel...the ramifications of the substitution far outweigh any tantrums. This game was being televised worldwide and that would include many Turks watching their captain being humiliated. And he was. He didn't react as badly as he could have. He shook hands with Wilco and walked off down the tunnel. If I'd been him, I'd have thrown my shirt at Pulis and told him to 'fuck off'. Of course, after reflection, I'd know I shouldn't have done that, but it isn't just supporters who get riled. His anger was understandable. OS.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 9, 2009 0:58:39 GMT
He has two degrees, alan. I know you wouldn't think so, but so he says. Well, AGSF had. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/cj7bsBj2jOTuEAUVaPt5.gif) OS. I only have 1, maybe I need another username to get the other! ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif)
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Post by anarchicalan on Nov 9, 2009 0:59:07 GMT
OS - bits of paper shouldn't impress anyone unless they're backed up with proof they were earned.
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Post by OldStokie on Nov 9, 2009 1:03:56 GMT
Bayern, I'm awarding you a Hon. PhD in Collins/Whitehead hating. You've earned it. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif) OS.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 9, 2009 1:05:04 GMT
Bayern, I'm awarding you a Hon. PhD in Collins/Whitehead hating. You've earned it. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif) OS. Cheers! It might be able to get me a job! ;D ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/4tzqvp1fxEemag_TAXLJ.gif)
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 9, 2009 1:10:58 GMT
Bayern, I'm awarding you a Hon. PhD in Collins/Whitehead hating. You've earned it. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif) OS. Cheers! It might be able to get me a job! ;D ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/4tzqvp1fxEemag_TAXLJ.gif) Be better if you used the words 'balanced analysis' rather than hating on your CV though Bayern. ;D
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 9, 2009 1:13:42 GMT
Cheers! It might be able to get me a job! ;D ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/4tzqvp1fxEemag_TAXLJ.gif) Be better if you used the words 'balanced analysis' rather than hating on your CV though Bayern. ;D ;D Just amended it! ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif)
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Post by eriksson74 on Nov 9, 2009 1:23:31 GMT
So Pulis wanted a man to close play down in the last 5 mins, Kitson plays deep anyway in a 5 man midfield and Tuncay plays a as busy extra man in midfiled. Therefore given both had fresh legs and can close play down,in midfield it was a ridiculous decision, not only in a short term perspective but long term in pissing yet another squad player off.
So in 12 games or so thats Tuncay, Kitson, Wilkinson and Simmo all pissed off and rightly so. The test is keeping the squad happy and Pulis is doing a right fuck up in that with his current decision making
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Post by steinovschmeichel on Nov 9, 2009 1:26:48 GMT
Why can't people get it to their heads that if a defender gets sent off practically ever manager would sacrifice a strike. Kitson is better defending than tuncay (he would probably snap in half in a tackle).
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Post by salifdiao on Nov 9, 2009 2:13:36 GMT
......tuncay (he would probably snap in half in a tackle). thats bollocks
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Post by slangking on Nov 9, 2009 7:47:21 GMT
Typical Pulis rimmer response. Don't answer any of the points, just insult the poster. What an intellectual giant you are. That was a response to your moronic insults towards Pulis you slimeball.
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Post by slangking on Nov 9, 2009 7:48:21 GMT
He has two degrees, alan. I know you wouldn't think so, but so he says. Well, AGSF had. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/cj7bsBj2jOTuEAUVaPt5.gif) OS. Translation anyone?
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Post by MilanStokie on Nov 9, 2009 8:28:12 GMT
I don't agree with this "Tuncay was petulant" "acted like a child". If any of you were brought to a company under false pretences and treated like shit by someone who obviously just doesn't like you, you would sit there with your gob shut? Would you hell. Sitting on the bench, deemed not fit but fit enough to play every game for his country recently. Mama returns from more than half a year out and is used BEFORE Tuncay as a sub on his first possible game back. Listening to your employer telling the media that you plan to start him very soon but still plonk him on the bench for the next 3 games. I feel Tuncay has EVERY right to be pissed off and to be fair to the guy, he doesn't deserve any of it and has kept it all inside for 3 months now. If anything, we should be happy he had a reaction like that, it shows the guy actually wants to play football and not sit around collecting his wages like a lot of Premier league moneygrabbers do. I, for one, defend your actions yesterday Tuncay but please don't hand in transfer request and refuse to play for the club again because your boss decided to be an utter c.unt. ![:'(](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/aV1vRBg_y2NLG9ubeFHN.gif)
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Post by anarchicalan on Nov 9, 2009 10:52:28 GMT
Typical Pulis rimmer response. Don't answer any of the points, just insult the poster. What an intellectual giant you are. That was a response to your moronic insults towards Pulis you slimeball. I'm surprised you could read it with your head so firmly up his arse. I suppose if you breathe in shit, are prepared to listen to shit, enjoy watching shit, then you're bound to talk shit as well.
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Post by starkiller on Nov 9, 2009 10:59:04 GMT
Wilkinson takes knock after knock after knock without so much of a shrug of a shoulder. Does that make him any less worthwhile to the team as Tuncay? I'd say it makes him more worthwile to the team and a top professional to boot. He also comes back stronger time and again. Tuncay would do well to take a large leaf out of his large book. How many times has Wilko been subbed after he has been brought on as a sub? In fact, how many times have you seen anyone subbed (not injured) after being brought on as a sub?
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Post by SCFC92 on Nov 9, 2009 11:02:27 GMT
Why can't people get it to their heads that if a defender gets sent off practically ever manager would sacrifice a strike. Kitson is better defending than tuncay (he would probably snap in half in a tackle). If he took Delap off or Whitehead he would still be sacrificing a Striker as Tuncay would no longer be a striker he would slot into CM or RM with Wilko at RB and Kitson up front on his own.
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Post by sting on Nov 9, 2009 23:13:00 GMT
So there we have it. The one thing we can all agree on is that Tony Pulis is infact devisive. I'm not quite sure where this all gets us. He isn't going anywhere soon, he's the safest manager in the PL, he continues to make some very odd decisions, play negatively when games are there for the winning yet we can be a cracking team on our day and he does get it right sometimes. Regrettably we've either got to like it or lump it (this is not a Pulis instruction).
As the manager who got us promoted there will be those who will of course never see anything wrong in any decision the manager makes. As for me I just want to see the best players playing in the right positions. I guess therefore I'd better be prepared for a lot more lumping!!
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Post by laurie on Nov 9, 2009 23:36:16 GMT
He certainly isnt gonna be able to please everyone with his decisions. Whereas pulis does make a few strange decisions, he's still learning his trade as a prem manager and he isnt gonna get this over night. Think a lot of yesterdays result had more to do with the absence of diao. If you look back on his last few games, we've got 2 wins and a draw. Without that bit of protection and discipline infront of the back 4 (which is all about salif) we look very dodgy defensively. Must move forward and put the result behind us, pompy is the focus point now!
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Post by jazzy on Nov 9, 2009 23:49:50 GMT
kev, The players were trying to tell the petulant brat to calm down. It's a shame the selfish individual couldn't acknowledge it was done for the greater good of the team. are you stupid ?? greater good of the team ?? what to sit back and defend a poxy draw against a shit team ?? weve got the most talented player weve had for a long long time and he is going to waste !! like the thread says , tp will divide the fans EVEN MORE , and divide the players eventually if he keeps picking the shit players over quality !! collins , delap and whitehead must be so embarrased getting picked week in week out ahead o decent FOOTBALLERS !!!
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Post by hchpotter on Nov 10, 2009 11:00:57 GMT
Part of Pulis' pay is based on results. His whole reputation in the game is based on results. Therefore, when he makes a decision it is because he thinks it is in the best interests of the team.
If Pulis thought he could build a career on choosing his mates, and never selecting a player he didn't like, he would have lasted 5 minutes. In actual fact he's managed a 17 year career without ever being relegated. He took Tuncay off last Sunday purely and simply because he thought it was the best decision for the team.
Tuncay looked gutted and went straight to the dressing room. He shook Wilko's hand, didn't have a go at anyone, he didn't confront his manager, or kick a water bottle 20 yards. It doesn't sound like he jumped into a waiting car and dashed off on his own like some on here reported. He's since said in the Turkish press that he enjoys England. In short there was none of the over reaction that we had on here.
Last week we were full of Kitson storming off, and those in the know said that he would never play for the team again. 48 hours later he donned the red and white stripes for the reserves and then played his part in the Hull game.
On here we are passionate supporters who hit the keyboard without thinking. It's often heart over head whereas Pulis is paid to make logical decisions. He won't get it right every time but he's had a pretty good career so far and has done bloody well by Stoke City. If he splits the supporters - tough.
I'd rather have him than Jordan, Mills, Little, Ball, Cotterill, Boskamp, Thordarsson, Chic Bates and company. We're in the top league, fighting above our weight and filling the stadium week in, week out. I remember sub 10,000 crowds in the Brit and opponents like Wycombe and Hartlepool. In those times support was well and truly split - between those that would fork out to see Stoke in the third tier and those that wouldn't.
Season ticket sales, shirt sales, bums on seats, the queues to get off the car park, and the volume at the Brit on a Saturday suggest to me that Tony Pulis has, in fact, united supporters like no other manager since Waddington.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Nov 10, 2009 11:08:29 GMT
Part of Pulis' pay is based on results. His whole reputation in the game is based on results. Therefore, when he makes a decision it is because he thinks it is in the best interests of the team. If Pulis thought he could build a career on choosing his mates, and never selecting a player he didn't like, he would have lasted 5 minutes. In actual fact he's managed a 17 year career without ever being relegated. He took Tuncay off last Sunday purely and simply because he thought it was the best decision for the team. Tuncay looked gutted and went straight to the dressing room. He shook Wilko's hand, didn't have a go at anyone, he didn't confront his manager, or kick a water bottle 20 yards. It doesn't sound like he jumped into a waiting car and dashed off on his own like some on here reported. He's since said in the Turkish press that he enjoys England. In short there was none of the over reaction that we had on here. Last week we were full of Kitson storming off, and those in the know said that he would never play for the team again. 48 hours later he donned the red and white stripes for the reserves and then played his part in the Hull game. On here we are passionate supporters who hit the keyboard without thinking. It's often heart over head whereas Pulis is paid to make logical decisions. He won't get it right every time but he's had a pretty good career so far and has done bloody well by Stoke City. If he splits the supporters - tough. I'd rather have him than Jordan, Mills, Little, Ball, Cotterill, Boskamp, Thordarsson, Chic Bates and company. We're in the top league, fighting above our weight and filling the stadium week in, week out. I remember sub 10,000 crowds in the Brit and opponents like Wycombe and Hartlepool. In those times support was well and truly split - between those that would fork out to see Stoke in the third tier and those that wouldn't. Season ticket sales, shirt sales, bums on seats, the queues to get off the car park, and the volume at the Brit on a Saturday suggest to me that Tony Pulis has in fact united supporters like no other manager since Waddington. Totally agee on every point. Re splitting the fans - he already has. There is the 1 to 5% against the 95% - same as most clubs.
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 10, 2009 12:14:14 GMT
Part of Pulis' pay is based on results. His whole reputation in the game is based on results. Therefore, when he makes a decision it is because he thinks it is in the best interests of the team. If Pulis thought he could build a career on choosing his mates, and never selecting a player he didn't like, he would have lasted 5 minutes. In actual fact he's managed a 17 year career without ever being relegated. He took Tuncay off last Sunday purely and simply because he thought it was the best decision for the team. Tuncay looked gutted and went straight to the dressing room. He shook Wilko's hand, didn't have a go at anyone, he didn't confront his manager, or kick a water bottle 20 yards. It doesn't sound like he jumped into a waiting car and dashed off on his own like some on here reported. He's since said in the Turkish press that he enjoys England. In short there was none of the over reaction that we had on here. Last week we were full of Kitson storming off, and those in the know said that he would never play for the team again. 48 hours later he donned the red and white stripes for the reserves and then played his part in the Hull game. On here we are passionate supporters who hit the keyboard without thinking. It's often heart over head whereas Pulis is paid to make logical decisions. He won't get it right every time but he's had a pretty good career so far and has done bloody well by Stoke City. If he splits the supporters - tough. I'd rather have him than Jordan, Mills, Little, Ball, Cotterill, Boskamp, Thordarsson, Chic Bates and company. We're in the top league, fighting above our weight and filling the stadium week in, week out. I remember sub 10,000 crowds in the Brit and opponents like Wycombe and Hartlepool. In those times support was well and truly split - between those that would fork out to see Stoke in the third tier and those that wouldn't. Season ticket sales, shirt sales, bums on seats, the queues to get off the car park, and the volume at the Brit on a Saturday suggest to me that Tony Pulis has, in fact, united supporters like no other manager since Waddington. That is a very good post. It's Tuesday now, after a lot of time to calm down I think that that's one of the more reasonable things I've seen posted on here regarding this whole issue.
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Post by clan2 on Jan 26, 2013 20:33:35 GMT
Over 3 Years have gone by and still nothing has changed ![>:(](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/MK1XRTh9jLIKdOoyx512.gif) It really is time for change.
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Post by Royal Donut on Jan 26, 2013 21:28:18 GMT
Apart from Europe, and the cup final and maybe our highest ever finish,,,,, just saying like
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Post by march4 on Jan 26, 2013 21:30:08 GMT
Over 3 Years have gone by and still nothing has changed ![>:(](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/MK1XRTh9jLIKdOoyx512.gif) It really is time for change. 'Nothing has changed' - hilarious. Since the OP we have enjoyed some of the most memorable moments in the 150 year history of the club.
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