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Post by kevkj on Jul 29, 2009 19:39:54 GMT
Fuller yes the rest no.
Yes Beattie had a purple patch but looked very average after i thought.
Maybe it me but a striker needs pace.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2009 19:40:43 GMT
It's You I think mucka!
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Post by leegthestokie on Jul 29, 2009 19:41:03 GMT
Beattie Is A Legend
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Post by RonnieStokie on Jul 29, 2009 19:41:05 GMT
Maybe it me but a striker needs pace. Teddy Sheringham?
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Post by griffoisalegend on Jul 29, 2009 19:42:11 GMT
Don't you think that you're being a "tad" harsh about Beattie?
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Post by kevkj on Jul 29, 2009 19:42:23 GMT
Ronnie of course theres exceptions but we need pace mate when Fuller is out were gash.
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Post by northstokie on Jul 29, 2009 19:42:25 GMT
Don't think they do but it shows how one dimensional we are whenever Fuller misses a game, nothing happens without him, the front two have no pace and no-one gets forward from the midfiled because the ball beats them up to the front...if Fuller plays he chases it into the channels allowing players to get forward, then he takes on the defence and makes something happen - I would rather a Fuller replacement was a priority as opposed to a Beattie backup, which is what Ashton is....
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Post by Mr Wheeze on Jul 29, 2009 19:43:13 GMT
Maybe it me but a striker needs pace. Teddy Sheringham? Are Hull after him??? ;D
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Post by luke45 on Jul 29, 2009 19:43:22 GMT
Maybe it me but a striker needs pace. Teddy Sheringham? Alan Shearer also, he wasn't the quickest player you'll ever see but he still scored nearly 300 career goals! Beattie, Fuller and Mama have all proven they can compete at this level, Mama before his injury was argueably the key man in the side, and Beattie and Fuller have scored important goals for us.
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Post by magicmanfuller on Jul 29, 2009 19:43:35 GMT
We have two good strikers and no more. Mama aint premier league quality. We need two good front men badly and I think tp is aware of this
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Post by kevkj on Jul 29, 2009 19:44:03 GMT
I honestly think if Ashton signs and gets fit Beattie will be moved on to Hull etc.
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Post by georgeberrysafro on Jul 29, 2009 19:44:10 GMT
Beattie was carrying a knock towards the end of the season hence the drop in form.
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Post by kevkj on Jul 29, 2009 19:45:22 GMT
Beattie was carrying a knock towards the end of the season hence the drop in form. Well hes not now lol
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Post by luke45 on Jul 29, 2009 19:46:19 GMT
We have two good strikers and no more. Mama aint premier league quality. We need two good front men badly and I think tp is aware of this How can you come to the conclusion? Mama has played in the premiership ONCE, last season, and nobody can say he didn't have a good season and look very much the part before he was injuried. Mama gives us another option and i'm sure he'll feature as much any other striker once he's fully fit again.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2009 19:47:11 GMT
Mama looked better in the Prem than the bloody Championship! ;D
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Post by northstokie on Jul 29, 2009 19:47:59 GMT
Beattie was carrying a knock towards the end of the season hence the drop in form. He has been crap this Pre season and was even shown up by Cressy on Sat....Cressy!! He's not crap, he just needs Fuller beside him, you listen to the difference Fuller makes when he comes on, they have said that Beattie and Kits have been crap first half, odds on one of them (whoever stays on) getting a goal if Ric has more than 30 mins?
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Post by kingdeano on Jul 29, 2009 19:49:12 GMT
kev you could end up being right, imo beattie wont do what he did last year, but then again i didnt think he would be any good for us anyway! so i could be talking crap as usual!
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Post by georgeberrysafro on Jul 29, 2009 19:49:45 GMT
Go back over last season and take out the goals and points Mama won us when he played...the header and winner v Villa, the peach of a cross to set up Delap in our 2-1 win over Tottenham...taking 2 players with him to give Shawcross a free header to win 1-0 v Boro, the winner v West Brom at home.......need I go on?
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Post by northstokie on Jul 29, 2009 19:52:08 GMT
Kits scores!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2009 19:52:29 GMT
Fuller, Beattie, Ashton, Dindane and Mama drrrrooooolllllll
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2009 19:53:42 GMT
We have two good strikers and no more. Mama aint premier league quality. We need two good front men badly and I think tp is aware of this Mama's not a Premier league goalscorer, no. But in his own position, and especially in a team that plays our formation, he IS Premiership quality. I can't think of one other player of Sidibe's 'type' I'd rather have. In fact I'm stuggling to think of any that could slot straight into his role (as it was before injury) and do the job?
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Post by kevkj on Jul 29, 2009 19:53:51 GMT
I rate Kitson lol
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Post by staliondal on Jul 29, 2009 19:59:28 GMT
For me Beattie doesn't do alot in games but puts the ball in the net. Thats a forwards job and we'd been crying out for a proper goalscorer for a while. Beats and Fuller are a good prem strikeforce but our backup sucks tbh with the exception of mama who still offers us something (if not goals!)
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Post by lust4life on Jul 29, 2009 19:59:49 GMT
Lets wait until a few games into the season before we judge players...Beattie was great last season and scored some crucial goals and assists....
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Post by bash62 on Jul 29, 2009 20:15:08 GMT
I honestly think if Ashton signs and gets fit Beattie will be moved on to Hull etc. utter rubbish why sell beattie we need the lad no pace but he will stick his foot, head in were others dare not he was key to keeping stoke up oh yes sell him to hull he might keep them up instead of us we need a bigger squad than last season he must stay . ric will be suspended ,injured then what play kitson who you will boo .
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Post by iilforddave on Jul 29, 2009 20:44:24 GMT
The only stiket who wants booting out the door is Cresswell, why would we sell any of the other 4 quality strikers we have
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Post by lust4life on Jul 29, 2009 20:51:54 GMT
Agree that Cressie not gud enough for the prem. He has done us proud though and he contributed alot to our promotion season and we all should remember him for that. Cant believe a championship club hasnt come in for him yet as he could do any team in that league a job..
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Post by Roy Cropper on Jul 29, 2009 20:59:58 GMT
Beattie... average? Are you mad son? 7 goals in 16 plus a fair few assists. Thats nearly a 0.5 goal ratio which in the Prem is something to be proud of.
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Post by swampySCFC on Jul 29, 2009 21:03:45 GMT
Im shocked that people think Beattie will move on.
For me he was the catalyst to us staying up and you can hardly argue with his scoring record for us or his career.
Very fickle
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Post by stokiekey on Jul 29, 2009 21:17:07 GMT
Beattie is our best finisher. FACT
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