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Post by 606Stokie on Jul 24, 2009 14:25:22 GMT
1 down 2 more to come ;d ;d ;d and good signing im happy with this one..
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Post by ilikelamp on Jul 24, 2009 14:25:33 GMT
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Post by RAF on Jul 24, 2009 14:26:39 GMT
I'm sorry Doz, but 2.5 mill is about right not 5 million, which in my opinion could be spent better elsewhere.
Yes I'm glad we have eventually signed someone, no I'm not impressed that it could cost the club up to 5 mill.
I worry because in the end the fans will pay one way or the other.
H
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Post by trebor63 on Jul 24, 2009 14:26:49 GMT
Why are people worried how much he costs? And why assume he's a squad player?
TP has generally been very good in the transfer market hece we are now a team that came around halfway up the prem as opposed to dreaming of one day being in the Prem!
As Mr Fornside says its not our money! Also not many of us will have seen that much of Whitehead and most people that have are quite positive about him.
Fuller Stein etc etc all had the doom mongers out when they signed and they turned out ok!
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Post by r10ryx on Jul 24, 2009 14:27:02 GMT
He's Been there all day, and you telling me they couldnt find him a home top to have a picture with or summat.
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Post by christhepotter on Jul 24, 2009 14:27:23 GMT
as i've said on another thread just met 5 sunderland fans on holiday and they all say hes hard working but lacks any quality a good championsh player they said and rated him between 1-2 million
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Post by monkeycat on Jul 24, 2009 14:27:31 GMT
its being announced Monday mate Have you heard that in the last hour or two, Mark? Ashton will be a permanent deal on Monday |
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Post by markscfc72 on Jul 24, 2009 14:28:15 GMT
I'm sorry Doz, but 2.5 mill is about right not 5 million, which in my opinion could be spent better elsewhere. Yes I'm glad we have eventually signed someone, no I'm not impressed that it could cost the club up to 5 mill. I worry because in the end the fans will pay one way or the other. H yeah but its not like paying any extra on Deano will reduce what we can spend in other areas Coatsy will back TP with whatever he wants |
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Post by edouardlapaglie on Jul 24, 2009 14:29:17 GMT
Has he done a pre-season with Sunderland at all? Just wondering when his first appearance for us will be, won't be tomorrow i wouldn't think, or would it?
Maybes against Forest.
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Post by RAF on Jul 24, 2009 14:33:06 GMT
Because
A He isn't worth 5 mill
B He isn't good enough to be anything but a squad player.
You only have to look at the majority of postings on the Sunderland site, they are pissing themselves whilst explaining that he can't pass isn't captain material but gives 100%.
Well fair enough, we've got our first signing and no doubt we will all get behind him, but lets hope we sign some players with a bit more quality aswell.
H
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Post by ratters on Jul 24, 2009 14:33:06 GMT
im sorry but we payed 3 million for oli and look what we got there, and whitehead is defo a step up from that so if it ends up being 5 million, it will mean we have done as a team somewhere along the line, ie still being in the prem so im not dissapointed, its the way of the market nowadays
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 24, 2009 14:34:15 GMT
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Post by stokemark on Jul 24, 2009 14:35:13 GMT
Classic Pulis sigining
English, players player, well known for what he does, leader on pitch
He'll do so long as he's only the start !
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jul 24, 2009 14:37:05 GMT
RAF: I know he's over-priced mate and I understand what you're saying but who is available to us for much less than that at the moment. Cardiff want 6 million for a lad that could be good, but is largely unproven and everybody you ask about has a 3-4 Million starting point. It seems much worse than even last pre-season and clubs are talking stupid figures for average players. If we were to go for someone who we might consider a step above Whitehead, just what mental figure would we be quoted and would he even consider us. We all keep coming up with players names but most of them are none starters. I totally agree with your sentiment but we are in the middle of a mental world of football where average players cost stupid fees. Given that, I think he'll be a good signing and whilst I agree with your 2-3 Million valuation, we could never have got him (or any similar player) for that in todays market.
It's mental!
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Post by theoldgit on Jul 24, 2009 14:37:46 GMT
According to the stoke website he wil be playing tomorrow at Preston he probably needs the match practice as he has not had a pre season with Sunderland.
As to his quality "In Pulis we trust"
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Post by fentonstokie on Jul 24, 2009 14:38:28 GMT
Anyone else noticed on the SCFC world site 2 of the stories about him signing are 4 hours old?
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Post by rhodes2stoke on Jul 24, 2009 14:39:23 GMT
I think we can all agree that we have purchased a very good solid prem midfielder who is worth close to £3 mill which is what we have paid, surely the add on’s taking it up to £5 mill would be based on Stoke's success and not player appearances? Hence that if we achieve our goals and this player is part of that then surely £5 mill would be right for a midfielder in lets say the top 10 teams??
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Post by OldStokie on Jul 24, 2009 14:41:06 GMT
3 mill down payment isn't a lot these days. It all depends on how the lad performs. 3 quid is too much to pay for Pericard now we know what he brings to the club and we were all cockahoop when we signed Kitson for 5 mill. It really will depend on how he shapes up. Personally, I'd rather have paid 12 mill for Tuncay, but maybe this player will turn out to be just as good a buy respectively speaking.
OS.
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Post by luke45 on Jul 24, 2009 14:41:59 GMT
I wonder if he'll play any part at Deepdale tommorow?
Edit: Just seen post above ;D
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Post by CillaBlacksPissFlaps on Jul 24, 2009 14:43:08 GMT
Love this quote from TP.
“I know he’s been a close mate of Liam (Lawrence) down the years, but it doesn’t seem to have done him any harm."
Also great to hear he's the first of many.
In TP we trust, he won't spunk PC's money on shite!!!
I'm more than happy with Whitehead's arrival.
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Post by edouardlapaglie on Jul 24, 2009 14:43:42 GMT
I'd rather have Whitehead as a squad player than Olofinjana, so if Oli goes to Monaco, or wherever and we get a reasonable return for him. Then it can be seen as a definite strengthening, which is a great thing.
As folk have pointed out, good signing, if there's more to come, which i'm sure there will.
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Post by Beardy200 on Jul 24, 2009 14:43:51 GMT
RAF: I know he's over-priced mate and I understand what you're saying but who is available to us for much less than that at the moment. Cardiff want 6 million for a lad that could be good, but is largely unproven and everybody you ask about has a 3-4 Million starting point. It seems much worse than even last pre-season and clubs are talking stupid figures for average players. If we were to go for someone who we might consider a step above Whitehead, just what mental figure would we be quoted and would he even consider us. We all keep coming up with players names but most of them are none starters. I totally agree with your sentiment but we are in the middle of a mental world of football where average players cost stupid fees. Given that, I think he'll be a good signing and whilst I agree with your 2-3 Million valuation, we could never have got him (or any similar player) for that in todays market. It's mental! Exactly. All playes are over-priced and unless alternatives at the same price can be suggested then it's bit of a daft argument  He's no superstar but he's better than Diao and Amdy and for me and long throw aside he's better than Rory aswell. Stick a ball-player in next to him and our central midfield will look miles better. |
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Post by spunkbubble on Jul 24, 2009 14:44:26 GMT
Seems a solid enough signing, after last season I think we all recognised that our centre midfield needed shoring up a bit. Seems to be the Pulis way of playing, having 2 solid centre midfielders and pushing the wingers up to support the strikers.
I think he'll prove a decent signing, I'd prefer to have a solid spine to the team this season rather than doing a Brazil and thinking we can out play everyone by playing namby pamby nancy boys in the centre of the park.
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Post by SCFC92 on Jul 24, 2009 14:45:12 GMT
Good signing to show our intent now hopefully this gets the ball moving a little bit ;D
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Post by mumf14 on Jul 24, 2009 14:45:17 GMT
About right ,all things considered.He will be in the first team I believe from the off , and you will get pride passion and commitment from Dean.
He should fit in rather well and is quite flexible in the positions he can play.
A good signing.
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Post by CillaBlacksPissFlaps on Jul 24, 2009 14:45:20 GMT
3 mill down payment isn't a lot these days. It all depends on how the lad performs. 3 quid is too much to pay for Pericard now we know what he brings to the club and we were all cockahoop when we signed Kitson for 5 mill. It really will depend on how he shapes up. Personally, I'd rather have paid 12 mill for Tuncay, but maybe this player will turn out to be just as good a buy respectively speaking. OS. Tuncay is available for £5M according to Southgate so I wouldn't spunk £12M on him. That IS paying over the odds. |
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Post by serpico on Jul 24, 2009 14:45:53 GMT
I'm not going to judge him before seeing him play, all too often i've pre judged a Pulis signing only to have been proven wrong, be it me thinking a signing will be good and turning out shit or visa-versa .
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jul 24, 2009 14:46:11 GMT
Great quote from TP.
And some say he lacks humour???
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Post by kitkatkev on Jul 24, 2009 14:53:29 GMT
Hes a Stokie now only time will tell carnt be too bad Sunderland player of Season for last three years need a song to Make him feel hes a stokie Maybe he will be Captain if Faye lets him
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Post by slangking on Jul 24, 2009 14:53:46 GMT
He's better than any other midfielder we've got and somehow he's a 'squad player', what does that make the others?
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