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Post by mumf14 on Jul 22, 2009 12:02:57 GMT
iT'S NAFF ALL TO DO WITH BEING A ROLE MODEL....It's to do with common Huyton thuggery and assault. But your're right....he shouldn't be allowed to play again...Give him a six month ban on no pay, and make him collect dog shit from the bins on Southport beach for for another six weeks.
Utter twat.
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Post by RAF on Jul 22, 2009 12:47:53 GMT
If found guilty obviously?
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Post by guernseydave on Jul 22, 2009 12:56:14 GMT
Trolly Dolly, Now don't be so sensible. You know people are pronounced gulity on here before proven innocent GD P.S Come to think of it he's a scally scouse twat with an atrocious accent and a stupid hair cut. Hang the C(_)nt !
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2009 12:57:51 GMT
lol I wondeed that! But assumed it was probably the latest geeky student type talk for high horse! Lol. It was just a sarky comment for the people who are indeed normally on their high horses. To see that vid he is just as bad as Barton. That is how the 2 can be compared. First he twats the bloke then he continues whilst his mates have a go as well. It doesn't matter how many times he has done it the fact is he has done it and is capable of doing it again. If as some people say Barton should never play football again then neither should Gerrard. He is a bigger role model than Barton will ever be. Horseshit mate. You can't compare the two. Gerrard is a cock but this is his first offence, is it not? Anyone can make a mistake. Barton has had chance after chance after chance after chance, on-field and off, and fucks it up every single time. There is no comparison whatsoever.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 22, 2009 12:57:16 GMT
and make him collect dog shit from the bins on Southport I'd rather watch him do that, than watch his never ending abysmal displays for England.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 22, 2009 14:07:16 GMT
I've seen the video on SSN. I guess they aren't showing the full video as I never saw a succession of punches or the speed of a boxer. It was more of a forearm and then a wrestling match.
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Post by cokecystfit on Jul 22, 2009 14:10:20 GMT
google "Gerrard's iPod" to get an idea of the tunes he was prepared to fight for to hear.
You obviously can't get Signal in Southport.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jul 22, 2009 14:18:03 GMT
Lol. It was just a sarky comment for the people who are indeed normally on their high horses. To see that vid he is just as bad as Barton. That is how the 2 can be compared. First he twats the bloke then he continues whilst his mates have a go as well. It doesn't matter how many times he has done it the fact is he has done it and is capable of doing it again. If as some people say Barton should never play football again then neither should Gerrard. He is a bigger role model than Barton will ever be. Horseshit mate. You can't compare the two. Gerrard is a cock but this is his first offence, is it not? Anyone can make a mistake. Barton has had chance after chance after chance after chance, on-field and off, and fucks it up every single time. There is no comparison whatsoever. If one is a thug then so is the other. Comparison made. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2009 14:18:21 GMT
Horseshit mate. You can't compare the two. Gerrard is a cock but this is his first offence, is it not? Anyone can make a mistake. Barton has had chance after chance after chance after chance, on-field and off, and fucks it up every single time. There is no comparison whatsoever. If one is a thug then so is the other. Comparison made. ;D Is a shoplifter who shoplifts once and then never does it again exactly the same as a serial thief and burglar who does it for years then?
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jul 22, 2009 14:24:56 GMT
If one is a thug then so is the other. Comparison made. ;D Is a shoplifter who shoplifts once and then never does it again exactly the same as a serial thief and burglar who does it for years then? Yes they are both thieving bastards. Anyway there is no need to involve Gerrards family. So if you got done for drink drive twice and I once that would make you worse than me? No. We would both be selfish, stupid twats.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2009 14:27:53 GMT
Is a shoplifter who shoplifts once and then never does it again exactly the same as a serial thief and burglar who does it for years then? Yes they are both thieving bastards. Anyway there is no need to involve Gerrards family. So if you got done for drink drive twice and I once that would make you worse than me? No. We would both be selfish, stupid twats. If I'd done it once and then did it again, yes, it would make me worse, surely? If I'd done it about 12 times, it would make me even worse. Vincent Pericard once scored a goal for Stoke. John Ritchie scored lots of goals for Stoke. Using your logic, they're both the same.
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Post by CrazyPotter on Jul 22, 2009 14:32:44 GMT
I've seen the video on SSN. I guess they aren't showing the full video as I never saw a succession of punches or the speed of a boxer. It was more of a forearm and then a wrestling match. Dunno about that bayern... news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/8162068.stmStraight after Gerrard's mate elbows the chap, Gerrard cowardly holds him down and swings in a couple of pretty heavy uppercuts into the blokes face.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jul 22, 2009 14:33:30 GMT
So what you are saying is you would take Gerrard (even if found guilty) but not Barton who has done his time? Selective double standards me thinks. Although this is Gerrard's 1st time (as far as we know) he is just as bad as Barton. Both have shown themselves to be thugs but it appears to be one rule for 1 and another rule for another. God I love it on here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2009 14:36:13 GMT
So what you are saying is you would take Gerrard (even if found guilty) but not Barton who has done his time? Selective double standards me thinks. Although this is Gerrard's 1st time (as far as we know) he is just as bad as Barton. Both have shown themselves to be thugs but it appears to be one rule for 1 and another rule for another. God I love it on here. No, because they're not the same. Anyone can make one mistake. Joey Barton is a serial offender. I refer you to my other examples. By your logic, Pericard is just as good as Ritchie, because both have scored goals for Stoke.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jul 22, 2009 14:40:10 GMT
So what you are saying is you would take Gerrard (even if found guilty) but not Barton who has done his time? Selective double standards me thinks. Although this is Gerrard's 1st time (as far as we know) he is just as bad as Barton. Both have shown themselves to be thugs but it appears to be one rule for 1 and another rule for another. God I love it on here. No, because they're not the same. Anyone can make one mistake. Joey Barton is a serial offender. I refer you to my other examples. By your logic, Pericard is just as good as Ritchie, because both have scored goals for Stoke. Not at all. You can have various amounts of quality but if your bad your bad.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2009 14:40:39 GMT
No, because they're not the same. Anyone can make one mistake. Joey Barton is a serial offender. I refer you to my other examples. By your logic, Pericard is just as good as Ritchie, because both have scored goals for Stoke. Not at all. You can have various amounts of quality but if your bad your bad. How does that work then? Explain that one to me. You don't believe there's any difference between committing one offence and committing dozens?
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jul 22, 2009 14:43:17 GMT
I conceed that Barton is worse than Gerrard but surly they are both still thugs and many have said they would not like to see a thug in a Stoke shirt.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2009 14:46:30 GMT
I conceed that Barton is worse than Gerrard but surly they are both still thugs and many have said they would not like to see a thug in a Stoke shirt. Your original argument was that they're just as bad though. I think most people who don't want Barton at the club, judging from the posts on here, don't want him because he's continually proved himself to be bad news and a lost cause.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jul 22, 2009 14:53:08 GMT
They are both capable of cowardly kickin the shit out of someone is my point. For the record I would take both.
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Post by GerrysGonnaGetYa on Jul 22, 2009 14:54:13 GMT
Affray:
A financial fine of up to £5,000 and/or 6 months custody for less serious cases of Affray, but if this case goes to the Crown Court there is a possibility of a greater sentence.
If the magistrates feel on the evidence their sentencing powers are sufficient they will hear the case. However, having heard the case and the offender’s history they then feel their sentencing powers are insufficient they can send the offender up to Crown Court for sentencing only in front of a judge.
Custody is the starting point in their sentencing decision but there is power to reduce the sentence by up to 1/3 for an early guilty plea, which may mean that custody can be avoided by the offender co-operating at the earliest stages. As an alternative to custody, the sentence may be a community punishment e.g. community service, which is served in the community.
The magistrates or judge must also consider compensation for loss or damage caused by the offence to be paid by the offender to the victim(s).
Whether or not the offence is regarded as serious depends on the aggravating and mitigating factors.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2009 14:55:41 GMT
They are both capable of cowardly kickin the shit out of someone is my point. For the record I would take both. It's a pretty dubious, spurious, weak point in your ongoing determination to paint Joey Barton as anything other than a cunt of the first water in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jul 22, 2009 15:00:52 GMT
My origianl post was just playing the devils to see how people's opinions changed between the two.
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Post by Soi Cowboy on Jul 22, 2009 15:07:44 GMT
'I posted on here some time ago that through work I knew someone who was related to a rich twat with a helicopter who was involved in the legal team (prosecution) ... he also wears a wig to work.'
Sausage- what you're saying is you know a transvestite scouse lawyer with a rich family?
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Post by mateybass on Jul 22, 2009 15:22:36 GMT
Saying that Gerrard isn't as bad as Barton because it's his first offence is as stupid as saying Mussolini wasn't as bad as Hitler.
The point is that Gerrard is on video punching a man who wouldn't give him the CD player remote control. If he gets away without a custodial sentence, what message does that send out to impressionable young lads who idolise him? First offence is no excuse. To argue that Barton is a serial offender and is therefore worse is not mitigation for what Gerrard did.
The judicial system is at fault for not punishing Barton correctly on his first offence.
Unfortunately, as we all know, if you have money you can afford the best lawyers to defend acts of criminality. This is where the serious injustice of our system lies.
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Post by edouardlapaglie on Jul 22, 2009 15:24:42 GMT
'I posted on here some time ago that through work I knew someone who was related to a rich twat with a helicopter who was involved in the legal team (prosecution) ... he also wears a wig to work.' Sausage- what you're saying is you know a transvestite scouse lawyer with a rich family? Doesn't everybody? I know i do ;D
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Post by starkiller on Jul 22, 2009 15:56:26 GMT
In the clips of video he's a proper "look at me" dick.
Premiership spoilt prick loses it because he couldn't have control of a CD player. Diddums.
Do YOU walk round to the other side of the bar to use the sink?
What a fucking tool.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2009 17:34:24 GMT
Saying that Gerrard isn't as bad as Barton because it's his first offence is as stupid as saying Mussolini wasn't as bad as Hitler. The point is that Gerrard is on video punching a man who wouldn't give him the CD player remote control. If he gets away without a custodial sentence, what message does that send out to impressionable young lads who idolise him? First offence is no excuse. To argue that Barton is a serial offender and is therefore worse is not mitigation for what Gerrard did. The judicial system is at fault for not punishing Barton correctly on his first offence. Unfortunately, as we all know, if you have money you can afford the best lawyers to defend acts of criminality. This is where the serious injustice of our system lies. I'm not defending Gerrard. He's a dickhead and IF FOUND GUILTY I hope the punishment reflects his yobbery. Joey Barton IS worse though, and I don't see how anybody can argue he isn't.
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Post by bash62 on Jul 22, 2009 20:33:06 GMT
MONEY TALKS HE WILL NOT GET SENT DOWN ,WHAT MESSAGE WILL THIS SEND OUT TO THE CHILDREN WHO WORSHIP HIM .
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Post by mumf14 on Jul 22, 2009 20:41:04 GMT
....AND ANOTHER THING, WHAT'S THIS ...."IF FOUND GUILTY" SHIT...?
The basturrd is fcuking guilty...you can see him him on the footage. That is of course unless your name is Blunkett, and you happen to be a Liverpool supporter.
They should have tried the bastuurd in Salford.! !!
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Post by RAF on Jul 23, 2009 7:31:24 GMT
Fortunately we don't convict on limted cctv footage or mumfs draconian mongery would see the CPS getting sued daily.
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