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Post by Jamo on the wing on Feb 11, 2009 19:27:56 GMT
He can't pass, can't tackle and doesn't run that much. And he has had one good shot and one that has gone in off his chin and I can't thank him enough for that but he just doesn't do it for me. Think you've just about summed him up perfectly bayern. Anyone who still thinks he a good player should watch a DVD of the Pompey away game (which is a prime example of how he's been) and then tell me what you think!
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Post by icelandpotter on Feb 11, 2009 19:29:46 GMT
I thought hewas pretty decent ??? cant understand all the hate!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2009 19:32:36 GMT
I thought hewas pretty decent ??? cant understand all the hate! Aside from Villa when he was good, and Arsenal when he was ok, I can't think of a good match he's had. He's either anonymous, like against Derby, where it was only when he was subbed that I even noticed he'd been playing, or gut-wrenchingly awful, misplacing passes, not bothering to tackle, run or even jump, and generally ambling about the pitch like a pensioner having a stroll in Margate. For a seven foot black youth, I've never seen someone so invisible on a football pitch.
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Post by icelandpotter on Feb 11, 2009 19:45:19 GMT
I think I see what you mean, although to a lesser extent than you. I'd prefer Amdy and someone who can go forward or who has a bit of a footballing mind about them, namely Pugh and Tonge.
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Post by georgeberrysafro on Feb 11, 2009 19:51:07 GMT
He just hasn't done it for me, he's still making the bench though so the loan link is a bit of a surprise...I thought Tonge would have gone first. Still with Matty and Delap suspended I think Pulis may block the move, with Diao you never know if he'll finish a game..or even start it because something may happen in the warm up, Faye was missing so seemingly injured v Sunderland so we're not left with much in the middle at the moment. Obviously we have Whelan, Pugh has been pushed in a few times but I still think we should keep him as cover....unless Cresswell is going to crop up in the centre of midfield next
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Post by Championship Potter on Feb 11, 2009 19:59:24 GMT
Have any of you are that are calling for his inclusion actually seen him play, other than against Villa or Arsenal? He has been woefully bad, can't pass, can't tackle and never looks up to the pace of the game. By my reckoning he is about the 7th choice CM, which is shocking really given the £3m fee and his wages.
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Post by potters11 on Feb 11, 2009 20:05:16 GMT
It was a shame that he wasn't given at least another chance in a league match, following a very good performance at West Ham.
On the whole, I feel Pulis will be very embarassed by this signing!
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Post by sutekh on Feb 11, 2009 20:14:19 GMT
i will tell Wayne Rooney, Critiano Ronaldo, Frank Lampard, Steven Gerrard, etc etc etc, that shooting is not important and to stop right away !! I haven't said it'snot important have I? Just as a midfielder, it's not the most important attribute to your game. Would you play someone in the centre of midfield who does fuck all but has a shot now and again? Against Everton he scored a cracking goal but gave two away at the other end, and we lost. Errrmmm! rob why did he spunk £3m on him then? And let us not forget tonge,soares,sonko,davies etc etc
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Post by fromafar07 on Feb 11, 2009 22:45:18 GMT
vandeurzen, apparently you were in the same class at The School for the Thick along with jamo, trumptonpotter, kken, dubaistokie,tsa et al. Nowhere in my responses do i talk about how good or bad Olofinjana is, all i said was he is one of the few players who takes a shot on goal when he gets a chance. However, considering TP paid 3 million for him, im thinking he might have something good about him. Ever thought he might be an attacking midfielder not a defending one ? just a question !!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2009 23:11:07 GMT
vandeurzen, apparently you were in the same class at The School for the Thick along with jamo, trumptonpotter, kken, dubaistokie,tsa et al. Nowhere in my responses do i talk about how good or bad Olofinjana is, all i said was he is one of the few players who takes a shot on goal when he gets a chance. However, considering TP paid 3 million for him, im thinking he might have something good about him. Ever thought he might be an attacking midfielder not a defending one ? just a question !! He's neither. He's just not up to it. Funny how anyone who doesn't agree with your ridiculous, crackpot non-arguments is "thick" isn't it? Seems to be a majority of us who just can't keep up with your pure genius. Sutekh - I honestly don't know. I didn't know at the time and I don't know now. I think he'll go down as Pulis' worst ever signing.
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Post by garyhackett on Feb 11, 2009 23:34:37 GMT
I will pay for his taxi, the 3 million we paid for him might as well have been flushed down the toilet.
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Post by luke45 on Feb 11, 2009 23:46:27 GMT
I personally hope we don't loan out anymore players for the rest of the season from the first team. As recent injuries and suspensions have shown, we need depth in all areas, especially at such a crucial stage in the season.
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Post by sheikh al dubai bin stokie on Feb 12, 2009 5:01:23 GMT
vandeurzen, apparently you were in the same class at The School for the Thick along with jamo, trumptonpotter, kken, dubaistokie,tsa et al. Nowhere in my responses do i talk about how good or bad Olofinjana is, all i said was he is one of the few players who takes a shot on goal when he gets a chance. However, considering TP paid 3 million for him, im thinking he might have something good about him. Ever thought he might be an attacking midfielder not a defending one ? just a question !! He's neither. He's just not up to it. Funny how anyone who doesn't agree with your ridiculous, crackpot non-arguments is "thick" isn't it? Seems to be a majority of us who just can't keep up with your pure genius. . i wouldnt give this idiot the oxygen rob... he knows kak all ... and displays it on a regular basis
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Post by apm72 on Feb 12, 2009 5:34:09 GMT
Pulis didnt do his homework on seyi, much the same as buying Kitson to play the mama role. Ask any Wolves fan and they will tell you that Seyi is better going forward than backwards, he is an attacking midfielder not a sitting in front of the back four centre mid, he has played in the mama role for Wolves and up front, i knew this and im sure Pulis did, so what did he buy him for
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Post by cousindupree on Feb 12, 2009 8:30:14 GMT
Not one of TP's finest hours with the cheque book....apm72 is spot on with his assessment of Olis role at wolves....TP must have thought he's big and black so he must be an athlete...shame about his footballing skills which get cruelly exposed at this level...If he's on loan he can always be recalled and you never know maybe the coaches at SheffU might teach him some basics. At least if he is not an option for us a more creative Tonge might get a chance or glory be Liam gets a game instead of 3 brik shithouses in midfield which TP has tried already this seaaon....Faye Diao and Oli in the same midfield...ffs!
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Post by monkeycat on Feb 12, 2009 9:23:00 GMT
Would be a good move to get him playing again.
If Liam ever plays again, our 2 central midfielders will be Diao and Delap, but IMO, our best central midfielder is Pugh
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Post by monsoonmoon on Feb 12, 2009 10:06:36 GMT
Personally, I think Olly is the perfect ingredient for us to change to a more suitable away game structure.
Having a three man central midfield would allow us to stifle much better. Sticking Olly as an attacking player in those three with a player in the 'Makelele role' (Diao or Amdy) and a defensively sound player who can attack, more your all around midfielder (Whelan, Rory, maybe even Danny Pugh). You'd need an attacking player to support the lone striker, which is where Olly would come in, possibly even Michael Tonge.
It's pretty clear he's not comfortable sitting in his own half, so allowing him to get into the oppositions box would enable his strengths to be realised. His aerial capabilities, good shot and good attacking positioning. He's good with his timing for arriving in the box late, and he's always going to be difficult to mark because of his frame whether or not he's a particularly physical player.
Loan him now to get him back to speed, but only for a month then try him out against Everton in a 4-5-1 with Etherington and Lawrence on the wings.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 12, 2009 10:16:21 GMT
It'll be interesting to see if any of Kitson, Olofinjana, Sonko, Tonge and Davies manage another start before the end of the season.
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Post by ParaPsych on Feb 12, 2009 12:41:23 GMT
Well considering Sonko played most of the match on Saturday I'd say that one is pretty likely, unfortunately.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2009 12:51:05 GMT
Cant pass cant tackle etc but 2 buts
1 He has played in some of our better performances ie Arsenal 2 If thats true ie cant pass etc why didnt our man Tony spot these small deficiencies in him prior to paying our £3million of the chairmans cash & whats the difference between him and Creswell on that basis
Which reminds me has anyone noticed not an ounce of press specualtion about clubs wanting super Richard on loan or with their chairmans hard earned cash, oh i forgot hes not a squad player hes a regular in the premier league at least for another 15 games because the verdict that matters says he can pass tackle, shoot score,the complete premier league midfieler Good luck if you go Oli you certainly dont deserve to be excluded for super twat Richard, or a half ift diao and it would be easy to switch delap to do the former, so somebody is telling you to bugger off
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Post by nott1 on Feb 12, 2009 13:13:59 GMT
No! We prefer to stay in our own half as it is far too risky in enemy territory!
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Post by fromafar07 on Feb 12, 2009 14:33:14 GMT
ahh, vandeurzen wrong again. wow, dont you get tired of being wrong all the time ?? but, anwyay. On the contrary, its not the majority of people i think are thick on here, there are upwards of cpl of hundred regular thread posters on here, i only mentioned you and 5 others, hardly the majority now is it ??? The rest seem to be able to post intelligent, sensible, normal responses !!
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Post by th05 on Feb 12, 2009 14:37:44 GMT
I cant remember how he plays its been that long. ;D
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Feb 12, 2009 19:09:59 GMT
vandeurzen, apparently you were in the same class at The School for the Thick along with jamo, trumptonpotter, kken, dubaistokie,tsa et al. Nowhere in my responses do i talk about how good or bad Olofinjana is, all i said was he is one of the few players who takes a shot on goal when he gets a chance. However, considering TP paid 3 million for him, im thinking he might have something good about him. Ever thought he might be an attacking midfielder not a defending one ? just a question !! What a surprise that fromafar resorts to childish abuse when people disagree with him, "School for the Thick" very classy. If all you are saying is "he is one of few players who takes a shot on goal" why say it at all unless you think he should play? If you don't want him to figure then that would render your post completely pointless anyway. He does have the occasional shot but then again he only makes the occasional tackle and only completes the occasional pass. I have been to EVERY game that he has played and anyone who knows anything about football will tell you that he has only been "ok" in a couple of our fixtures this year and has been poor in all of the others. I aren't that bothered what you do or don't think to be honest, I only offered my opinion on a player I have watched on a regular basis and you called me thick, great response as ever fromafar.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Feb 12, 2009 19:13:57 GMT
The comments from Wolves fans when we bought him werent too complimentary, and he hasnt really set the Potteries alight.
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Post by nathan on Feb 12, 2009 19:21:37 GMT
Anonymous Oli and Donko were truly shocking pieces of business, whichever way you want to dress it up.
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Post by melonhead on Feb 12, 2009 20:33:18 GMT
He is anonymous most of the time,because the ball is usually played over his head. However, as a wolves supporter quotes 'when i think of olofinjana the old saying "its not the size if the dog in the fight" "its the size of the fight in the dog" comes to mind.he was ok but was a lightweight in a heavyweights body most of the time imo. the running off to the african nations pi$$ed me off too. great business to get £3M for him.i wouldn't want him back at molineux even as a freebie.
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Post by nathan on Feb 12, 2009 20:37:14 GMT
It's a good pissing job the ball is largely played over his head with his pass completion rate.
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Post by melonhead on Feb 12, 2009 20:52:04 GMT
The stats don't lie he inna that bad, there are worse in our team Rory Delap attempted tackles 54 success 61,1% interceptions 38 Amdy Faye attempted tackles42 success 85,7% interceptions 24 Salif Diao attempted tackles33 success 81,8% interceptions18 Seyi Olofinjana attempted tackles28 success 85,7% interceptions 23 Glenn Whelan attempted tackles23 success 82,6% interceptions 22 Matthew Etherington attempted tackles15 success 80,0% interceptions 12 Liam Lawrence attempted tackles9 success 66,7% interceptions 4 Michael Tonge attempted tackles3 success 66,7% interceptions 2
Glenn Whelan Assits 0 Total 435 success 74,5% Rory Delap Assits 3 Total 398 success 67.8% Matthew Etherington Assits 2 Total 361 success 83,9% Seyi Olofinjana Assits 0 Total 341 success 71,0% Amdy Faye Assits 0 Total 338 success 76,3% Salif Diao Assits 0 Total 312 success 76,6% Liam Lawrence Assits 1 Total 124 success 71,8% Michael Tonge Assits 0 Total 84 success 79,8%
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2009 20:56:26 GMT
The stats don't lie he inna that bad, there are worse in our team Rory Delap attempted tackles 54 success 61,1% interceptions 38 Amdy Faye attempted tackles42 success 85,7% interceptions 24 Salif Diao attempted tackles33 success 81,8% interceptions18 Seyi Olofinjana attempted tackles28 success 85,7% interceptions 23 Glenn Whelan attempted tackles23 success 82,6% interceptions 22 Matthew Etherington attempted tackles15 success 80,0% interceptions 12 Liam Lawrence attempted tackles9 success 66,7% interceptions 4 Michael Tonge attempted tackles3 success 66,7% interceptions 2 Glenn Whelan Assits 0 Total 435 success 74,5% Rory Delap Assits 3 Total 398 67,success 8% Matthew Etherington Assits 2 Total 361 success 83,9% Seyi Olofinjana Assits 0 Total 341 success 71,0% Amdy Faye Assits 0 Total 338 success 76,3% Salif Diao Assits 0 Total 312 success 76,6% Liam Lawrence Assits 1 Total 124 success 71,8% Michael Tonge Assits 0 Total 84 success 79,8% Lies, damn lies and statistics. He offers far less than Diao, Amdy or Whelan IMO.
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