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Post by Danstoke82 on Feb 3, 2009 8:17:38 GMT
Blackburn’s injury problems meant Sam Allardyce blocked Mokoena’s move but Stoke boss Tony Pulis then moved for Birmingham right back Stephen Kelly.
Birmingham wanted Ibrahima Sonko to go the other way but Pulis decided to hold on to the Senegal centre half after failing to get Calum Davenport, who moved to Sunderland.
I found this on the Daily Mail sight. It seems we missed out on these two chaps. Mokoena is an ok player, but again, another defensive midfielder?? and I cannot decide on Davenport, Im guessing we will see how good he is on Saturday?
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Post by northstokie on Feb 3, 2009 8:41:43 GMT
Mokoena being targeted could mean that our main target of a CM from France didn't happen and therefore all we will hear about is Kelly (hopefully)
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Post by knowles on Feb 3, 2009 9:10:27 GMT
I'm not surprised we were in for the pair. They are players we have previously targeted and we all know that TP likes to re-visit former targets!
Davenport would have been nothing more than back up to Abdy and Ryan.
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Post by luke2u on Feb 3, 2009 9:23:14 GMT
Pulis is so scared of foreign clubs, he buys African players from English clubs, but will never buy them at a cheaper price from a foreign club. What a prick he is.
And again, he uses the last hours of the transfer window of players he can't get. Why should Blackburn sell Mokoena to us?? And why should we buy Davenport and Mokoena when we need a full back (I'm not sure of the Kelly deal will be accepted) and a goalscoring midfielder. I don't understand Pulis' way of thinking.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 3, 2009 9:32:03 GMT
If Davenport was the "experienced centre-half" and it really was Mokoena who was the priority midfielder for yesterday, that suggests that we were already well down our target list by the time yesterday dawned.
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Post by luke2u on Feb 3, 2009 10:04:35 GMT
Agree FM, this was way off target compared to what we were led to belive.
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Post by davesviews on Feb 3, 2009 10:08:08 GMT
Davenport wanted to come to Stoke,there were problems agreeing terms not enough time to sort things out
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2009 10:10:35 GMT
Davenport wanted to come to Stoke,there were problems agreeing terms not enough time to sort things out dave, assuming he'd signed,do you know if the Davenport would have likely been playing or been cover? |
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Post by PottersPride on Feb 3, 2009 10:12:00 GMT
luke2u every post your giving pulis stick just shut up m8
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Post by davesviews on Feb 3, 2009 10:12:17 GMT
He would have added competition,which is needed in the team
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 3, 2009 10:13:26 GMT
Didn't he join Sunderland quite early on in the day though?
How did they manage to rush it through if we were unable to?
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Post by knowles on Feb 3, 2009 10:15:43 GMT
FM- he was a late transfer to Sunderland. It was announced after 5.00.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 3, 2009 10:18:39 GMT
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Post by davesviews on Feb 3, 2009 10:19:28 GMT
There were a few problems with terms,and at that time he was not our first choice,we were still waiting for another player to be released from his current club
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 3, 2009 10:20:59 GMT
Hyppia?  If it was him, looks like S'land had the same idea. |
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Post by Beardy200 on Feb 3, 2009 10:23:53 GMT
C'mon Dave. Spill the names now ;D
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Post by luke2u on Feb 3, 2009 10:32:30 GMT
luke2u every post your giving pulis stick just shut up m8 Why can't I? I thought this messageboard was to express views. If he's so keen on signing Mokoena, why could he take the same gamble as Blackburn did? They paid £ 300.000 for him. Pulis is just wasting PC's money with the way he tries to sign players. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2009 10:36:14 GMT
luke2u every post your giving pulis stick just shut up m8 Why can't I? I thought this messageboard was to express views. If he's so keen on signing Mokoena, why could he take the same gamble as Blackburn did? They paid £ 300.000 for him. Pulis is just wasting PC's money with the way he tries to sign players. It's fair enough to criticise, I think in many ways you have a point. However, why are you never able to give any credit? Do you not think the four players we've brought in this window will improve the team? |
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Post by luke2u on Feb 3, 2009 11:16:31 GMT
Etherington and Beattie are really good signing, and I've said so. Not too sure about Camara, as I wonder how we're going to use the players we now have. Kelly still not signed, but if it goes through I'll be happy.
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Post by realstokebloke on Feb 3, 2009 11:28:21 GMT
Actually, if they were the targets we were after (agree, though FM, i think we must have been a good few pages down & into the list by then though  ) , then i'm not fussed we didn't get them tbh.
He's obviously worried about CB cover (& with Donks & Cort, who wouldn't be?) so i can see Davenport being OK-ish. But, like a lot of posters though, i would have gone balls-out for a left back as well - so releasing Higgy to cover / rotate for CB.
As for Midfield, i think the one(s) we really needed should have had the adjective "creative" not "defensive" in front of their descriptions.
But this is TP we're on about here, so while that's no big surprise, i hope he has a game plan to give his new strikeforce a proper supply line.
Overall though, i think we have done well (& i include Kelly in that) &, if he can get over his tiff with Lenny (& actually play him), i think we have more than enough to stay up.
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Post by 606Stokie on Feb 3, 2009 11:35:50 GMT
Being honest im glad that we dident sign the pair...
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Post by luke2u on Feb 3, 2009 11:44:31 GMT
So am I!
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Post by northstokie on Feb 3, 2009 11:47:39 GMT
Disagree, extra bodies can only help, especially at centre back - what if Abdy gets injured/suspended? Who comes in then?
My thoughts are if that happened Higgy would come in and Griff would go to LB and Wilko/Kelly at right back
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Post by carverdoone on Feb 3, 2009 11:58:35 GMT
luke2u every post your giving pulis stick just shut up m8 Why can't I? I thought this messageboard was to express views. If he's so keen on signing Mokoena, why could he take the same gamble as Blackburn did? They paid £ 300.000 for him. Pulis is just wasting PC's money with the way he tries to sign players. Because you offer nothing but constant whining, it is very irritating. |
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Post by th05 on Feb 3, 2009 12:01:24 GMT
To be honest, I don't think we needed a CB, Cort and then Sonko will do for cover. We needed a central midfielder.  |
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Feb 3, 2009 12:06:20 GMT
Diao seems to be miles away from fitness again. If one of whelan/amdy is injured, and presuming we still want to utilise delap on the right, this would mean olofinjana or tonge stepping into the middle. Olofinjana looks like he is simply not good enough, and i wouldn't be surprised if Tonge is in Rudge's garden.
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Post by luke2u on Feb 3, 2009 12:12:32 GMT
Why can't I? I thought this messageboard was to express views. If he's so keen on signing Mokoena, why could he take the same gamble as Blackburn did? They paid £ 300.000 for him. Pulis is just wasting PC's money with the way he tries to sign players. Because you offer nothing but constant whining, it is very irritating. And I will go on until Pulis is sacked! I hate him for messing around with the love of my life. |
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Post by stokelad84 on Feb 3, 2009 12:17:58 GMT
Luke... So Pulis getting the love of your life the the premier league and trying to keep us here is a bad thing???
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Post by luke2u on Feb 3, 2009 12:23:52 GMT
No, I was happy with promotion, and will also be happy if we stay, but Stoke isn't very much fun to watch any longer.
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Post by burtybiggins on Feb 3, 2009 13:28:59 GMT
no fun ? arsenal,villa,man city. u r a prick mate . ps wot bout danny pugh at left back ? solid performer
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) , then i'm not fussed we didn't get them tbh.
