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Post by Squeekster on Jan 1, 2009 14:40:05 GMT
Such a big fuss, the ball hit the ball the pete's sake! (Who's pete?) The ball hit the ball? |
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Post by th05 on Jan 1, 2009 15:12:08 GMT
What on earth is the point of making a deal out of it, the decision was correct in the end, they aren't going to gain anything from the process, seems a waste of time for me.
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Post by buxtop on Jan 1, 2009 15:22:38 GMT
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Post by stokelad84 on Jan 1, 2009 15:27:52 GMT
What if Hull were given a penalty and then scored it, what would Brown say if Villa appealed and got the goal cancelled out (I know that wouldnt happen)
Brown would come out and say "We should trust the officials original judgement" blah, blah blah
Where is his integrety when he openly wants to cheat in order to win 1 point? After seeing the video replay it is definately not a penalty, so why is he making such a fuss?
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Post by Cupid Stunt on Jan 1, 2009 15:28:23 GMT
Surely it's time the fourth official had access to a monitor to watch incidents again? It is only good for the game that the right decisions are made, and if that means referees confirming something with their officials then so be it. It would clamp down on diving etc because the 4th official would see if it was a dive or not. Villa won the game but due to what was nearly a poor decision, could have cost them 2 points. Now if Villa finished 1 point off 4th place is it really fair they miss out on a bad decision? I know it's been like this for years, but should change IMO.  |
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Post by Olgrligm on Jan 1, 2009 16:26:15 GMT
But who was the third party? Somebody official looking or wearing the colours of either team? Or just some bloke?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2009 16:33:04 GMT
As usual you people don't bother to find out what the problems are before you wade in with you uninelligent comments. The issue is twofold. Firstly Steve Bennett allowed his decision to be affected by the Aston Villa players. That is against the rules, even though it was not hand-ball, he should not have allowed the players to sway his decision. Secondly, the linesman was clearly in communication with a third party before Bennett came over to him to ask his opinion. He was not talking to Bennett because he was busy fending off and arguing with half the Villa team. I know this because I was sat about 20 yards away from the lino. So who was he talking to? This is the key issue our chairman (not Phil Brown) is asking the Premier League about. We are only looking for consistency. If video evidence was used to overrule then penalty decision then why shouldn't video evidence be used to rule Agbonlahor off-side for their goal (which he was!), another wrongful decision in the game. Referees make poor decisions all the time, you have to accept it and hope it's all swings and roundabouts. What is not acceptible is that illegal influences affect those decisions so that they are inconsistent, as I suspect is the case here. Nice spin Swanland. Face it, this is Brown's spin because he made himself look quite the twat raging against a decision which was, ultimately, 100% right. He cried like a little girl about Fuller's "dive" when we played you at the Brit and said nothing when you were awarded an utterly ludicrous penalty against Boro the following week. Brown's done a great job at Hull, but he's a total hypocrite and a colossal dick. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 1, 2009 16:34:47 GMT
If they demand an investigation into this we ought to demand one for the Rooney elbow. Yorkshire tossers.
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Post by victoriaboothenboy on Jan 1, 2009 16:50:25 GMT
Tango is becoming a LEGEND. He talks more shit than Wenger/Fergy/Mourinho and half a dozen others put together. He'll be trying to convince us it's 2009 next.
Bottom line is Bennett thought he saw a handball, Villa players plus plus lino convinced him he didn't. So he rightly changed his mind,justice was done. No conspiracy theory needed
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Post by stonestokie! on Jan 1, 2009 17:00:38 GMT
it was no where near a handball, they're just f*cked off there 'amazing' run/FLLLLLLLLLLLLUKE has came to a bitter ending
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2009 17:09:58 GMT
I think the have every right to know if a third party had informed the linesman that the ball was not touched however if an enquiry proves inconclusive they should make a public apolgy to both linesman and ref for causing such a fuss?
From the angle the ball came in watching via the streaming it was clear that it hit the bar. I am presuming the linesman had a similar view?
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Post by nathan on Jan 1, 2009 17:19:47 GMT
As usual you people don't bother to find out what the problems are before you wade in with you uninelligent comments. The issue is twofold. Firstly Steve Bennett allowed his decision to be affected by the Aston Villa players. That is against the rules, even though it was not hand-ball, he should not have allowed the players to sway his decision. Secondly, the linesman was clearly in communication with a third party before Bennett came over to him to ask his opinion. He was not talking to Bennett because he was busy fending off and arguing with half the Villa team. I know this because I was sat about 20 yards away from the lino. So who was he talking to? This is the key issue our chairman (not Phil Brown) is asking the Premier League about. We are only looking for consistency. If video evidence was used to overrule then penalty decision then why shouldn't video evidence be used to rule Agbonlahor off-side for their goal (which he was!), another wrongful decision in the game. Referees make poor decisions all the time, you have to accept it and hope it's all swings and roundabouts. What is not acceptible is that illegal influences affect those decisions so that they are inconsistent, as I suspect is the case here. Nice spin Swanland. Face it, this is Brown's spin because he made himself look quite the twat raging against a decision which was, ultimately, 100% right. He cried like a little girl about Fuller's "dive" when we played you at the Brit and said nothing when you were awarded an utterly ludicrous penalty against Boro the following week. Brown's done a great job at Hull, but he's a total hypocrite and a colossal dick. Bang on, RVD. |
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Post by swanlandtiger on Jan 1, 2009 17:48:29 GMT
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Post by swanlandtiger on Jan 1, 2009 17:50:02 GMT
What if Hull were given a penalty and then scored it, what would Brown say if Villa appealed and got the goal cancelled out (I know that wouldnt happen) Brown would come out and say "We should trust the officials original judgement" blah, blah blah Where is his integrety when he openly wants to cheat in order to win 1 point? After seeing the video replay it is definately not a penalty, so why is he making such a fuss? What a fooking stupid comment. Just shows how you patently don't understand what is going on. 0/10! |
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Post by swanlandtiger on Jan 1, 2009 17:52:53 GMT
Surely it's time the fourth official had access to a monitor to watch incidents again? It is only good for the game that the right decisions are made, and if that means referees confirming something with their officials then so be it. It would clamp down on diving etc because the 4th official would see if it was a dive or not. Villa won the game but due to what was nearly a poor decision, could have cost them 2 points. Now if Villa finished 1 point off 4th place is it really fair they miss out on a bad decision? I know it's been like this for years, but should change IMO. Couldn't agree more, then maybe the Agbonlahor/Zayatte goal would have rightly been disallowed for offside. As it stands we want to make sure replay technology was not used to help Bennett or his officials as that is against the rules. Whether it was actually a pen or not is completely irrelevant to the argument as the situation stands. |
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Post by swanlandtiger on Jan 1, 2009 17:54:31 GMT
As usual you people don't bother to find out what the problems are before you wade in with you uninelligent comments. The issue is twofold. Firstly Steve Bennett allowed his decision to be affected by the Aston Villa players. That is against the rules, even though it was not hand-ball, he should not have allowed the players to sway his decision. Secondly, the linesman was clearly in communication with a third party before Bennett came over to him to ask his opinion. He was not talking to Bennett because he was busy fending off and arguing with half the Villa team. I know this because I was sat about 20 yards away from the lino. So who was he talking to? This is the key issue our chairman (not Phil Brown) is asking the Premier League about. We are only looking for consistency. If video evidence was used to overrule then penalty decision then why shouldn't video evidence be used to rule Agbonlahor off-side for their goal (which he was!), another wrongful decision in the game. Referees make poor decisions all the time, you have to accept it and hope it's all swings and roundabouts. What is not acceptible is that illegal influences affect those decisions so that they are inconsistent, as I suspect is the case here. Nice spin Swanland. Face it, this is Brown's spin because he made himself look quite the twat raging against a decision which was, ultimately, 100% right. He cried like a little girl about Fuller's "dive" when we played you at the Brit and said nothing when you were awarded an utterly ludicrous penalty against Boro the following week. Brown's done a great job at Hull, but he's a total hypocrite and a colossal dick. Try to get to grip with the point of the argument otherwise you are the one who looks a dick. |
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Post by victoriaboothenboy on Jan 1, 2009 18:03:28 GMT
Dont think we are all that bothered Swannie. We have our own issues with Foy,Rooney and Ronaldo. Do you think we should demand an inquiry into that or why Ballack got red while Fuller got red for the same crime. Shit happens. Move on
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Post by jpm64 on Jan 1, 2009 18:06:36 GMT
Nice spin Swanland. Face it, this is Brown's spin because he made himself look quite the twat raging against a decision which was, ultimately, 100% right. He cried like a little girl about Fuller's "dive" when we played you at the Brit and said nothing when you were awarded an utterly ludicrous penalty against Boro the following week. Brown's done a great job at Hull, but he's a total hypocrite and a colossal dick. Try to get to grip with the point of the argument otherwise you are the one who looks a dick. Over 250 posts on here now..... How sad are you ??? |
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Post by Squeekster on Jan 1, 2009 18:07:31 GMT
;D Dont think we are all that bothered Swannie. We have our own issues with Foy,Rooney and Ronaldo. Do you think we should demand an inquiry into that or why Ballack got red ;Dwhile Fuller got red for the same crime. Shit happens. Move on ;D |
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Post by buxtop on Jan 1, 2009 18:12:24 GMT
What if Hull were given a penalty and then scored it, what would Brown say if Villa appealed and got the goal cancelled out (I know that wouldnt happen) Brown would come out and say "We should trust the officials original judgement" blah, blah blah Where is his integrety when he openly wants to cheat in order to win 1 point? After seeing the video replay it is definately not a penalty, so why is he making such a fuss? What a fooking stupid comment. Just shows how you patently don't understand what is going on. 0/10! What the feck is patently? You muppet! (note only one t). |
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Post by stokeoptimist on Jan 1, 2009 18:12:33 GMT
Why don't the linesmen wear headsets as well, then they wouldn't even have to call the ref over they could just tell him there and then.
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Post by victoriaboothenboy on Jan 1, 2009 18:12:34 GMT
Sorry Squeak obviously should read yellow. Getting too excited
Swanland. You just posted 4 times in 8 minutes -is nothing happening on your own board or do you enjoy our company more
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Post by sweetandinnocent on Jan 1, 2009 18:13:26 GMT
PHILL BROWN AFTER THE MEDIA ATTENTION AGAIN  it wasn't even a handball ffs |
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Post by coggy on Jan 1, 2009 18:26:53 GMT
Surely it's time the fourth official had access to a monitor to watch incidents again? It is only good for the game that the right decisions are made, and if that means referees confirming something with their officials then so be it. It would clamp down on diving etc because the 4th official would see if it was a dive or not. Villa won the game but due to what was nearly a poor decision, could have cost them 2 points. Now if Villa finished 1 point off 4th place is it really fair they miss out on a bad decision? I know it's been like this for years, but should change IMO. Couldn't agree more, then maybe the Agbonlahor/Zayatte goal would have rightly been disallowed for offside. As it stands we want to make sure replay technology was not used to help Bennett or his officials as that is against the rules. Whether it was actually a pen or not is completely irrelevant to the argument as the situation stands. Just seen Tango on SSN, he is right saying it's not about being deserved a point, it's not about it cost them you the game etc etc, the point he missed was that it's all about HIM ! Getting his Orange big head full of arrogance all over the news AGAIN ! I can see his point though it could ruin your chances for Europe  i don't know how to do that smiley of rolling around pissing myself ! |
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Post by swanlandtiger on Jan 1, 2009 18:59:10 GMT
Dont think we are all that bothered Swannie. We have our own issues with Foy,Rooney and Ronaldo. Do you think we should demand an inquiry into that or why Ballack got red while Fuller got red for the same crime. Shit happens. Move on Again, that isn't the point, we all suffer from poor refereeing decisions. This is a procedural issue. We need to know why Bennett allowed his decision making process to be swayed by "The Mob" and whther there was any illegal information getting thru to assist him. As I have already said Agbonlahor was offside for their goal, if we were being petty and arguing unreasonably, we would be also complaining about that refereeing mistake, but we are not. |
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Post by swanlandtiger on Jan 1, 2009 19:00:25 GMT
Try to get to grip with the point of the argument otherwise you are the one who looks a dick. Over 250 posts on here now..... How sad are you ??? Out of interest, sonny, why would it be "Sad" to be posting on a message board about matters pertaining to HCFC?? |
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Post by swanlandtiger on Jan 1, 2009 19:06:28 GMT
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Post by boscfc on Jan 1, 2009 19:14:45 GMT
"whther there was any illegal information getting thru to assist him. "
The word is "whether".
Please do try and practice what you preach old boy.
Regards
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Post by victoriaboothenboy on Jan 1, 2009 19:16:06 GMT
Fuck me Swanland. you are coming thick and fast today. I take it you had a quiet Xmas, so you've come to tease your Stokie pals.
I'll admit this board can sometimes be a tad boring but never when you are on, spinning your amusing stories from Tangoland. Long may it continue
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Post by Eastyorkspotter on Jan 1, 2009 19:16:55 GMT
So Swanland, picture this:-
Last minute, Hull leading 1-0 Villa hit the ball towards goal, Hull defender on the line Jumps up with hand in the air, Bennett gives Penalty against Hull. Players surround him, Ashbee is with assistant ref, Bennett goes to consult Assistant. After discussion he overturns his original decision. They ultimately get the right decision between them.
Would Hull City (Brown/Duffen):-
A - Say the initial decision was wrong, but Villa Should have had their penalty, cos you cant change your mind.
B - commend the match officials on getting the right decision for the justice of the game
mmm.... Difficult, which do you think the Hull City hierarchy would go for????????
TTT = TYPICAL TIGER TWATS ;D ;D
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