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Post by PolPotter on Dec 27, 2008 13:09:07 GMT
This has to be towards the top in the shit league of chants.
I can't see any Mancunian or 'Glory Hunter' being insulted by this. Just what is the problem in following a team from a different area to where you live?
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Post by Squeekster on Dec 27, 2008 13:14:00 GMT
Its because its gives the impression that you are following the club because they are successful.Most fans would like to see some affiliation to the team they support.
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Post by stokelad84 on Dec 27, 2008 13:14:28 GMT
Its glory hunting...
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Post by BristolMick on Dec 27, 2008 13:15:19 GMT
Why dont you read some of the other threads on this subject...maybe you will find your answer and salvation!
Its not about "live" anyway its about "connection"
BM
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Post by slangking on Dec 27, 2008 13:21:15 GMT
Funny then if they aren't insulted how most of them were looking fit to cry when they were being baited with it after a game 'their' team had won.
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Post by stonestokie! on Dec 27, 2008 13:22:34 GMT
who cares, it get's the atmopshere going ;D
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Post by jimisastokie on Dec 27, 2008 13:42:57 GMT
its a quality song, must make the away fans feel quite weak to support the "best" team, not the locals
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Post by glouscesterstokie on Dec 27, 2008 13:46:41 GMT
This has to be towards the top in the shit league of chants. I can't see any Mancunian or 'Glory Hunter' being insulted by this. Just what is the problem in following a team from a different area to where you live? i completly 100% agree!! |
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Post by powchirper on Dec 27, 2008 13:53:51 GMT
We missed a trick yesterday by not singing " you only live round the corner"  |
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Post by Smudge_SCFC on Dec 27, 2008 13:54:06 GMT
Quality song.
One in the eye for all of those gloryhunters on the away end who know full well that their affiliation to that club is down to nothing other than shameless gloryhunters.
If the end was full of Mancunian born Man Utd fans they could sing back "We support our local team" but they don't... and we all know why!
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Post by glouscesterstokie on Dec 27, 2008 13:56:12 GMT
its a shocking song if you travel further to watch games then that surely makes you less of a glory hunter
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Post by Smudge_SCFC on Dec 27, 2008 14:01:42 GMT
its a shocking song if you travel further to watch games then that surely makes you less of a glory hunter I see it 100% the OTHER way. The ones who travel are the ones who put money into the game and thus make the game even more lop-sided, by with-holding their support and money from their local teams to give it to one who needs it the least. It maintains the terrible imbalance in the English game. I suppose you're feeling under fire because of your own location. I hope this isn't the case. I'd guess you have a genuine affiliation to Stoke City and choosing to support a team renownded for chronic under-achievement throughout its entire history could never be described as a "glory hunting". It's more about genuine affiliation than geography, but it's hard to fit that into a short and catchy little song. |
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Post by glouscesterstokie on Dec 27, 2008 14:06:32 GMT
i support stoke all the way like many fans who travel regulary from the southwest. i just think people who travel serveral hours to go and watch middleborough away for example and support stoke for decades are just as much dedicated than fans who live locally if not more so.
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Post by PolPotter on Dec 27, 2008 14:07:03 GMT
I'd agree if the supporters following Manchester United yesterday were following Chelsea 2 seasons ago. They are fake supporters and everyone knows that.
There was a lad at my school who followed Liverpool during the 80s. I bumped into him during the 90s and he was wearing a Newcastle United top. Liverpool were no longer running away with trophies and Newcastle United looked like a team who were going places (don't laugh) - the tosser.
Uncle Smudge et al are simply jealous of Manchester United's success.
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Post by Brick-Top on Dec 27, 2008 14:10:28 GMT
YOU ONLY LIVE ROUND THE CORNER! LIVE ROUND THE CORNER! YOU ONLY LIVE ROUND THE CORNER!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 27, 2008 14:11:17 GMT
As Bristol Mick says it isn't so much where you live as whether you have a genuine connection to the club you claim to support. Of the 24,000 or so Stokies who were at the game, probably 80%, maybe 90%, either live in the area or once lived in the area or have family who live or lived in the area. The remaining 10% or so may have started to support the club because they loved Banksy, or Sir Stan or because they have a liking for underdogs! That is probably the case for most of the unfashionable clubs in the country.
But if you look at the 3,000 ManU "fans" at the game you'll find the great majority have never had any connection with Manchester. And those who have no connection with the area certainly didn't decide to support ManU out of any liking for an underdog!
It is quite frightening just how many Manchester "fans" have never been to Old Trafford and just as frightening how many of those who do go to games go simply because they have decided to follow a successful brand. That isn't what a football club fan base should be about.
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Post by slangking on Dec 27, 2008 14:13:17 GMT
Guess what? I don't envy them at all, if I was jealous of their success I could simply become a shit fan. It isn't like being jealous of someone having more money than you is it? Anyone can be a shit fan. I'd agree if the supporters following Manchester United yesterday were following Chelsea 2 seasons ago. They are fake supporters and everyone knows that. There was a lad at my school who followed Liverpool during the 80s. I bumped into him during the 90s and he was wearing a Newcastle United top. Liverpool were no longer running away with trophies and Newcastle United looked like a team who were going places (don't laugh) - the tosser. Uncle Smudge et al are simply jealous of Manchester United's success. |
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Post by pattayapotter on Dec 27, 2008 14:13:56 GMT
Small penis syndrome  |
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Post by Smudge_SCFC on Dec 27, 2008 14:15:53 GMT
Uncle Smudge et al are simply jealous of Manchester United's success. What a crock of shit! Please don't think you can talk for me. If Stoke aren't going to win a trophy then I seriously don't give a flying fuck who wins it. Now if we're throwing around opinions as facts then my best guess is you're only sticking up for gloryhunters because you're mates with them. They are the lowest of the low in the world of football supporters. |
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Post by Soi Cowboy on Dec 27, 2008 14:16:06 GMT
I agree Pol P we are jealous of Man U's achievements to an extent but you have to agree there are so many latch on to them due to them winning trophies. Old Trafford is like being at a cricket match-generous appluase etc, no passion like we showed yesterday and I personally think the song sums them up 100 percent. Despite him being a tosser of the highest order, Roy Keane was right in what he said.
Don't get me wrong- Stoke are far from my local team but have supported them since I can remember and got to games whenever I could as a very young kid and that wasn't down to us winning things. Just a club I first saw on TV in Northern Ireland if I remember rightly and was fortunate enough to live close enough to get to see years later when we moved to Lancashire. Has been proved this season that 26,000 odd of us can create more of an atmosphere than over 3 times more than these 'supporters'. Shows our passion and love of the club and we rightly taunt them for it IMHO. The atmosphere yesterday was immense. Should be proud.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 27, 2008 14:17:23 GMT
SlangKing is spot on - for once! No way would I ever be jealous of ManU - if I envied what they have I could up sticks and join them - for me it is nearer to Old Trafford than the Brit. The teams I have envied over the years have been teams when they won the title (in the days when it was a level playing field and Stoke started the season with hopes of doing it) and teams which got promoted to the Premier League when we didn't. They were clubs sufficintly like Stoke to be able to identify with but sufficiently more successful to make me jealous.
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Post by PolPotter on Dec 27, 2008 14:32:02 GMT
Uncle Smudge et al are simply jealous of Manchester United's success. What a crock of shit! Please don't think you can talk for me. If Stoke aren't going to win a trophy then I seriously don't give a flying fuck who wins it. Now if we're throwing around opinions as facts then my best guess is you're only sticking up for gloryhunters because you're mates with them. They are the lowest of the low in the world of football supporters. I expected a better response from you! |
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Post by starkiller on Dec 27, 2008 14:39:56 GMT
Said to a gloryhunter on here yesterday (thankfully the prick has been deleted) that having a season ticket for Old Trafford just makes you more of a gloryhunter, not less.
And so does travelling further.
I, also, have no interest in how long they've been supporting them and why.
They can dress it up however they wish, it's still gloryhunting. Plain and simple.
The local plastic scousers (arguably, worse in this area) are next.
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Post by AlliG on Dec 27, 2008 14:49:56 GMT
Blimey. Agreeing with both Lakeland and Slangking on the same post. Must go and have a lie down.
As a student in Nottingham in the 1970s I would regularly go and watch Nottingham Forest when there wasn't a Stoke game I could get to.
They were a club I could identify with, they were sticking it to the establishment and I developed a bit of a soft spot for them but in reality no more than I did for Stafford Rangers, Crewe or Port Vale when I used to go and watch them to fill in the blank evenings between Stoke and Stoke Reserve games in the 1980s.
I recently spent 12 months working (and living during the week) in Manchester. I did once contemplate going to the new City of Manchester Stadium to watch Man City, but it never even crossed my mind to go to the other place.
Glory hunting always seems such a cold, plastic experience. "Oh look, everyone else is jumping up and celebrating, better do the same, don't want to look out of place. What happened? No idea, just follow the rest of the sheep."
p.s. I don't support my current "local team", but there again who in their right mind would support The Dingles?
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Post by rabbigan on Dec 27, 2008 15:08:36 GMT
Could not agree more it makes us look like aload of small club wankers.
Get alife.
Also see no point in singing "When the Reds go Marching in "when playing the Mancs since this is one of their few chants and who arrogantly refer to themselves as THE Reds.
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Post by Squeekster on Dec 27, 2008 15:19:11 GMT
Said to a gloryhunter on here yesterday (thankfully the prick has been deleted) that having a season ticket for Old Trafford just makes you more of a gloryhunter, not less. And so does travelling further. I, also, have no interest in how long they've been supporting them and why. They can dress it up however they wish, it's still gloryhunting. Plain and simple. The local plastic scousers (arguably, worse in this area) are next. A silly comment to make of course how long you have supported them has a bearing on the issue,say you started following them in the late seventies they won nothing from then up to the 90's.Its like us being tacken over by an Arab and getting billions and winning everything for the next ten years would we be glory hunters. I used to go to Old Trafford in the mid 80's when Stoke were away (my mates dad who was a Man u fan took us and it was the only away games mum would let me go) and i saw them play all the top sides mainly Liverpool and had no problem getting in paying on the turnstile so really its no excuse to say now you can't get tickets as you would probably have a season ticket already if you followed them from back then. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 27, 2008 15:24:44 GMT
I've supported Stoke for about 30 years and will soon become 44 myself, but as you all know this has been a roller coaster ride. Anyway it has given me so much joy and excitement as well that I wouldn't have been without it. Why Stoke you may ask? The answer is simple really Stoke were among the clubs shown most on Norwegian Telly, and this team in red and white stripes somehow was so fascinating to me that I've been following them since then. My first visit to see Stoke live in England was in 2003 when we lost at home against Derby and since then I've taken my family to England once or twice every year, and YES I feel like a real supporter of this club!  ;D |
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Post by starkiller on Dec 27, 2008 15:28:14 GMT
Said to a gloryhunter on here yesterday (thankfully the prick has been deleted) that having a season ticket for Old Trafford just makes you more of a gloryhunter, not less. And so does travelling further. I, also, have no interest in how long they've been supporting them and why. They can dress it up however they wish, it's still gloryhunting. Plain and simple. The local plastic scousers (arguably, worse in this area) are next. A silly comment to make of course how long you have supported them has a bearing on the issue,say you started following them in the late seventies they won nothing from then up to the 90's.Its like us being tacken over by an Arab and getting billions and winning everything for the next ten years would we be glory hunters. I used to go to Old Trafford in the mid 80's when Stoke were away (my mates dad who was a Man u fan took us and it was the only away games mum would let me go) and i saw them play all the top sides mainly Liverpool and had no problem getting in paying on the turnstile so really its no excuse to say now you can't get tickets as you would probably have a season ticket already if you followed them from back then. If it's post Munich, you are a gloryhunter. |
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Post by Squeekster on Dec 27, 2008 15:31:15 GMT
A silly comment to make of course how long you have supported them has a bearing on the issue,say you started following them in the late seventies they won nothing from then up to the 90's.Its like us being tacken over by an Arab and getting billions and winning everything for the next ten years would we be glory hunters. I used to go to Old Trafford in the mid 80's when Stoke were away (my mates dad who was a Man u fan took us and it was the only away games mum would let me go) and i saw them play all the top sides mainly Liverpool and had no problem getting in paying on the turnstile so really its no excuse to say now you can't get tickets as you would probably have a season ticket already if you followed them from back then. If it's post Munich, you are a gloryhunter. Another silly thing to say. |
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Post by starkiller on Dec 27, 2008 15:38:14 GMT
If it's post Munich, you are a gloryhunter. Another silly thing to say. Enlighten me as to why Man Utd and not Bury or Oldham? They have been a 'brand' for decades. |
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