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Post by tpsoldboysclub on Dec 26, 2008 17:28:02 GMT
in footballing terms, 24 isnt young though is it
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Post by stonestokie! on Dec 26, 2008 17:28:05 GMT
i dont think it was it was the only time were they defence fu**ed up! they all got in a muddle oh well atleast he actually touched ronaldo this time eh!   |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2008 17:28:45 GMT
Wilkos a good defender but is totally lacking in quality on the ball. Those two tackles he got booked for were ridiculous and unecessary. He 24 now and for me is a mid table Championship player at the very best.
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Post by andylgr on Dec 26, 2008 17:28:51 GMT
I think Ronaldo got to him with his verbal, as clearly he was giving him some lip, and then the red mist descended for Wilko with that challenge. I think it cost us.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 26, 2008 17:31:05 GMT
in footballing terms, 24 isnt young though is it That's where the less experienced comes into it numb nuts!  |
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Post by tpsoldboysclub on Dec 26, 2008 17:33:02 GMT
and why is he less experienced???? because pulis never regularly gives him a run in the team
numb nut
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 26, 2008 17:35:00 GMT
Well yeah! ;D
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Post by tpsoldboysclub on Dec 26, 2008 17:37:01 GMT
thank you, im glad that you know im right |
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Post by bogus on Dec 26, 2008 17:39:56 GMT
I think Ronaldo got to him with his verbal, as clearly he was giving him some lip, and then the red mist descended for Wilko with that challenge. I think it cost us. I agree. However well he played today, and he had up to that point, it really was a mind numbingly stupid tackle. It was just a blatant swipe at the back of his legs. |
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Post by eddyclamp on Dec 26, 2008 17:51:13 GMT
I would fine Wilko a weeks wages for his actions.It was not as if Ronaldo was in the box. I did find it more disappointing that Stoke fans clapped him off . |
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Post by mikeyb99 on Dec 26, 2008 17:53:45 GMT
I would fine Wilko a weeks wages for his actions.It was not as if Ronaldo was in the box. I did find it more disappointing that Stoke fans clapped him off . Sounds like scapegoating to me. Wilko can't take the blame alone for this defeat IMO. |
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Post by tpsoldboysclub on Dec 26, 2008 17:53:48 GMT
fantastic point eddy, couldnt agree more
make me physically sick when wilko was clapping us as he walked off like he was proud of what he just did
tp should fine him
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Post by trend....... on Dec 26, 2008 18:00:06 GMT
He should have broken the twats legs. If your gonna get sent off you had might as well make it worth it. exactly what i was thinking ;D |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 26, 2008 18:16:42 GMT
thank you, im glad that you know im right But....ohhh fuck it, its not worth the hastle. |
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Post by eddyclamp on Dec 26, 2008 18:21:48 GMT
I would fine Wilko a weeks wages for his actions.It was not as if Ronaldo was in the box. I did find it more disappointing that Stoke fans clapped him off . Sounds like scapegoating to me. Wilko can't take the blame alone for this defeat IMO. No scapegoat,I would of said the same about any of our players. You play Manu at home and go down to 10 men because of a stupid tackle.At least make sure Ronaldo limps off FFS. Ronaldo must have been laughing his bollox off. |
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Post by sportsman on Dec 26, 2008 18:26:18 GMT
Tell you who else cost us the game today. Stoke fans!
After we were promoted, even straight after the game against Leicester, everyone was saying can't wait for Wilko/Dicko break Ronaldo's legs. Well well done boys, he nearly did!
I can imagine the build up to the game with Wilko with his 'Stoke' mates. 'Make sure you DO Ronaldo'. Well he did.
He did play well, to be fair, until then as did all the players. Just watched it again on V+ and the work rate they put in was unbelievable. Lesson learned for Wilko, and also to his 'Stoke' mates around him and fans in general. He even went of clapping and saluting block 10/11 as him he had done them proud by 'snapping' him! Andy Grey and David Platt slated him for that.
Be careful what you wish for and what you demand from players!
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Post by trend....... on Dec 26, 2008 18:36:22 GMT
Tell you who else cost us the game today. Stoke fans! After we were promoted, even straight after the game against Leicester, everyone was saying can't wait for Wilko/Dicko break Ronaldo's legs. Well well done boys, he nearly did! I can imagine the build up to the game with Wilko with his 'Stoke' mates. 'Make sure you DO Ronaldo'. Well he did. He did play well, to be fair, until then as did all the players. Just watched it again on V+ and the work rate they put in was unbelievable. Lesson learned for Wilko, and also to his 'Stoke' mates around him and fans in general. He even went of clapping and saluting block 10/11 as him he had done them proud by 'snapping' him! Andy Grey and David Platt slated him for that. Be careful what you wish for and what you demand from players! hes a stoke lad and probably hates the cheating cock as much as most fans. one chance to snap him and he took it. i for one dont blame him for that. only if he butted him aswell. |
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Post by sportsman on Dec 26, 2008 18:39:53 GMT
Say's it all for me! Brain dead fans got into his brain dead mind!
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Post by SALIFDIAOOO on Dec 26, 2008 18:46:11 GMT
Of course he did, stupid stupid decision on his own behalf.
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Post by stantheman7 on Dec 26, 2008 18:47:32 GMT
i personally thought he was having a very good game apart from the two silly challenges .
as for his sending off costing us two points , unless you have a crystal ball and could see the end of the game without his sending off we will never know .
i think we should all just praise the team and backroom staff for the efforts they have made this season ( upto yet ) and wish them a good new year .
now lets be honest who would have settled for a 0-1 result before the game ?
who really hand on heart expected to get anything from the game before we kicked off ??
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Post by Janet in ST5 on Dec 26, 2008 18:47:48 GMT
Wilko was my man of the match up to the second booking. I thought his tackling was just exactly how it should be done, with purpose, effective and clinical. The 'second' yellow was a foul (all man, no ball!), and I've no doubt he felt justified. What a game for him today, local lad, playing his heart out for his club and team. I still think he was brilliant, and shit played that wanker on him second half trying to get the second booking. Wilko didn't lose us the game, the lack of respect for the game and the (inefficient) officials doesn't help when you are playing whinging tossers like this shower today.
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Post by Gunslinger on Dec 26, 2008 18:51:30 GMT
He should have broken the twats legs. If your gonna get sent off you had might as well make it worth it. exactly what i was thinking ;D Third that. He'll learn from it and will become a rock solid defender for us if we get relegated. Uf we stay up? Give him a year and he will establish himself. |
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Post by s8to on Dec 26, 2008 18:55:28 GMT
Wilko had a top game, deserved the yellow to leave the field, wasnt his fault we lost. On Rooney it was right infront of me why he didnt see red for that begs belief, the officials bottled it
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Post by leekrepublican on Dec 26, 2008 19:49:50 GMT
Wilko was a complete idiot who cost us the game. As for the fans who stood and applauded whilst blaming the ref, it shows a complete lack of intelligence. Stokies are starting to blame the ref for just about everything that goes wrong.
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Post by birly on Dec 26, 2008 21:30:03 GMT
Tell you who else cost us the game today. Stoke fans! After we were promoted, even straight after the game against Leicester, everyone was saying can't wait for Wilko/Dicko break Ronaldo's legs. Well well done boys, he nearly did! I can imagine the build up to the game with Wilko with his 'Stoke' mates. 'Make sure you DO Ronaldo'. Well he did. He did play well, to be fair, until then as did all the players. Just watched it again on V+ and the work rate they put in was unbelievable. Lesson learned for Wilko, and also to his 'Stoke' mates around him and fans in general. He even went of clapping and saluting block 10/11 as him he had done them proud by 'snapping' him! Andy Grey and David Platt slated him for that. Be careful what you wish for and what you demand from players! If he listens to his 'Stoke' mates so much,he shouldnt be a professional footballer.that was a sunday league tackle and it cost us the game ultimately....hes a fool. |
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Post by Davef on Dec 26, 2008 21:36:24 GMT
I think only mikeyb has made the point that TP should have been a bit more aware of what was going on. After about twenty minutes of the game today the referee lost the plot and you got the feeling that we were going to have a player sent off.
With Wilko on a booking and then Ronaldo swapping sides, it really wasn't that much of a surprise to see him go.
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Post by tpsoldboysclub on Dec 26, 2008 21:41:55 GMT
i agree with davef ........................... tp out! ;D
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Post by twinedwitherlangen on Dec 26, 2008 21:43:41 GMT
I think Wilko did what the majorit of folk in the ground wanted to do, unfortunately it were daft, but i find it hard to pick fault with the fella, call me a tool, call me what you will, but i dunna think you can fault the lad who played with his heart on his sleeve and had a bloody good match
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Post by slangking on Dec 26, 2008 21:47:52 GMT
I re-watched the game on skyplus, you could clearly see Ronaldo give Wilkinson some verbals after the challenge where he kicks him, about 3 minute later Wilkinson decides he's going to try to boot him 6 foot in the air, no-one to blame but Wilkinson. I think only mikeyb has made the point that TP should have been a bit more aware of what was going on. After about twenty minutes of the game today the referee lost the plot and you got the feeling that we were going to have a player sent off. With Wilko on a booking and then Ronaldo swapping sides, it really wasn't that much of a surprise to see him go. |
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Post by AlliG on Dec 26, 2008 22:29:49 GMT
Wilko's big mistake was not collapsing like a sack of spuds when Ronaldo stamped at his foot.
If he had behaved like every other player in the Premier League, Ronaldo would not have been on the field to draw the 2nd yellow card.
The really stupid booking was the first one. He had chased and harried Giggs from deep in our half back into theirs and put him in a position where his only real option was to play the ball back to Van Der Sar. At that point he had done his job and there was no need to make the challenge.
If he had used his head in the 1st half, he could have had his one free pop at Ronaldo. As it was, that option was not available and he had to stay on his feet.
Sadly, you could see the 2nd yellow coming when the ball was still 20 yards away.
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