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Post by padders01 on Oct 26, 2008 17:03:27 GMT
Nobody ever look at the postitives
People talk about Hull. The same side that got hammered by Wigan 5-0. That Wigan side has just been hammered by Aston Villa, who we beat at home. There will be times when results like today happen. I thought we gave it a really good go, just our finishing let us down.
Sunderland is now a massive game
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Post by SuperStokie on Oct 26, 2008 17:04:24 GMT
That's spot on too Mayf.
It had made Wednesday a must win, especially if you presume Arsenal will beat us.
Most of us realists knew it would be like this. We're just one win away from being in mid-table.
Hardly a reason for all this needless negative shit, really.
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Post by padders01 on Oct 26, 2008 17:06:18 GMT
We are lvery fortunate we avoided a tonking today. Bollocks, did you watch it? Why look at the negatives all the time? Why couldn't you say, we were very unlucky not to take any of our chances, at 1-0 and 2-0 down. BUT NO, you look at the negatives all the time
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Post by chrispk76 on Oct 26, 2008 17:06:35 GMT
this is the man city that were 1-0 up against a shitty castle team who had ten men and had to rely on a late late goal to nick a draw can already hear pulis' interview, the lads missed a good chance and from there a player who cost more than our entire team has punished us. no mention of man citys recent league form L,L & D (v 10 men)
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Post by buxtop on Oct 26, 2008 17:07:05 GMT
I'm sure we can pull something together. Think positive!
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Post by stokie63 on Oct 26, 2008 17:07:50 GMT
people on here are saying we should have scored thats the diff between stoke and other prem teams they put them chances away and we cant keep a clean sheet.
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Post by steinovschmeichel on Oct 26, 2008 17:07:46 GMT
didn;t see the first half as couldn;t find a decent stream of it but second half we pissed on them at times. fuller ran their defence raggid. was only coz we had a go at them at 2-0 they caught us on the break 3-0 and it was over. i enjoyed that match.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2008 17:08:07 GMT
yeah yeah yeah, were unlucky every away game aren't we?
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Post by nathan on Oct 26, 2008 17:08:52 GMT
We're a newly promoted club going away to Man City, a side with a team worth much more than ourselves with a potent strike force and in my eyes, we've given it a good go.
I know that to many we should have wiped the floor with 'em and beat them 5-0 but it's not always like that - the realists amongst us are aware that these defeats will happen over the course of the season, and it is how we respond that is crucial.
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Post by mermaidsal on Oct 26, 2008 17:09:22 GMT
We're still getting the level, today we had a lesson from a world class player and didn't have the quality to pick up a consolation goal. What Hull are doing is literally unreal, they're like a lower league side on an outrageous cup run so it's not realistic to compare. Today won't have been on Tone's go for a win list, Sunderland will be. If we get badly outclassed again in that game it will be time for some major soul-searching though.
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Post by padders01 on Oct 26, 2008 17:09:23 GMT
yeah yeah yeah, were unlucky every away game aren't we? No you knob we aren't!
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Oct 26, 2008 17:10:02 GMT
Yawn. Gain a bit of perspective please. We're getting beaten courtesy of a £30 million player. We haven't disgraced ourselves - we've had opportunities to get ourselves back in it at 1-0 and failed to take them. We have to be more ruthless and clinical. The pace and potency of their forward line was always going to mean getting back into it would be a difficult task and one that will invariably offer them opportunities. All in all, it is a pretty cuntish response to a performance that hasn't been terrible. Positives can be drawn, certainly. What the fuck you on about? What positives? Weve conceded 3 and scored 0. We never got fucking close to them. We keep saying weve got to be more clinical but for how long can we keep saying ffs. We were awful and it does not look good for the season at all. We look out of our depth. Do Hull? Do they bollocks. Have they got better players than us? Have they fuck. Its all about approach. And ours is shit. SGS
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2008 17:10:17 GMT
and it is how we respond that is crucial. And how are we responding to all these away defeats then? By changing tactics???
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Post by jcscfc on Oct 26, 2008 17:10:21 GMT
Is n't it funny.
We win and they doom and gloomers say nothing.
We lose and they are there like vultures.
SHUT UP
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Oct 26, 2008 17:11:20 GMT
We're a newly promoted club going away to Man City, a side with a team worth much more than ourselves with a potent strike force and in my eyes, we've given it a good go. I know that to many we should have wiped the floor with 'em and beat them 5-0 but it's not always like that - the realists amongst us are aware that these defeats will happen over the course of the season, and it is how we respond that is crucial. Hull are newly promoted and have to Arsenal, Spurs, Newcastle, WBA and won. Dont give me this shit about newly promoted club syndrome SGS
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Post by padders01 on Oct 26, 2008 17:11:54 GMT
and it is how we respond that is crucial. And how are we responding to all these away defeats then? By changing tactics??? AND HOW DID WE RESPOND TO THE PORTSMOUTH DEFEAT?? Oh it wasn't a win was it?????? Fucking negative pricks on here
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Post by mikeyb99 on Oct 26, 2008 17:12:30 GMT
We're showing sides far too much respect. Hull are winning games not because they have necessarily better players, but because they're playing with no fear and confident in their ability. They are taking the game to teams that aren't expecting it - and winning because of it.
We're turning up, being conservative and trying to defend a 0-0, and losing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2008 17:12:40 GMT
I'm off to learn how to happy clap another away defeat.
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Oct 26, 2008 17:12:54 GMT
Is n't it funny. We win and they doom and gloomers say nothing. We lose and they are there like vultures. SHUT UP I praise the team when we have played well. Like vs Everton, Villa, Boro etc. When we play shit and look like frightened little boys, I also criticise. It works both ways. SGS
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Oct 26, 2008 17:13:31 GMT
We're showing sides far too much respect. Hull are winning games not because they have necessarily better players, but because they're playing with no fear and confident in their ability. They are taking the game to teams that aren't expecting it - and winning because of it. We're turning up, being conservative and trying to defend a 0-0, and losing. Fucking spot on SGS
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Post by lust4life on Oct 26, 2008 17:13:27 GMT
There's some fucking negative bell ends on this site why are people bell ends just for voicing there opinions foe which they are entitled to do. Are we all just supposed to tip our caps to these sides and say its been a pleasure to play you and we arent bothered if we lost.
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Post by swanster on Oct 26, 2008 17:16:00 GMT
We're showing sides far too much respect. Hull are winning games not because they have necessarily better players, but because they're playing with no fear and confident in their ability. They are taking the game to teams that aren't expecting it - and winning because of it. We're turning up, being conservative and trying to defend a 0-0, and losing. We didn't do that today though! We had chances at 0-0, in fact we created a fair few chances today!
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Oct 26, 2008 17:16:11 GMT
And how are we responding to all these away defeats then? By changing tactics??? AND HOW DID WE RESPOND TO THE PORTSMOUTH DEFEAT?? Oh it wasn't a win was it?????? Fucking negative pricks on here Negative Pricks? So shall we happy clap and bang on about missed chances, being unlucky blah blah blah. No, were fucking out battled, outthought and outclassed. You think well beat a Sunderland team fresh from a North East Derby win do you and an Arsenal team that have the best passing game in the Prem. Get a grip ffs. I praise when we play well regardless, but today we were shambolic and its becoming the norm away. Our approach is dreadful. SGS
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Post by jcscfc on Oct 26, 2008 17:15:48 GMT
God, don't you love your own posts SGS
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Post by mermaidsal on Oct 26, 2008 17:18:29 GMT
Just pointing out that I'm NOT being a happy clapper, I'm a bloody pissed off clapper and I'm agreeing with mikey too - but I'm also not in terminal depression about it, we may be able to fix this well enough to survive, whatever happens I'm 100% behind the team and Tone but we need a serious personality change.
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Post by Mickstoke on Oct 26, 2008 17:18:47 GMT
This was the same city team that couldn't beat 2nd bottom 10 man Newcastle. Yet all of a sudden they are world beaters? What pisses me off is that we have no intention of trying to win an away game until we are losing. We are lvery fortunate we avoided a tonking today. i agree mate but on this site they are all in an love affair with pulis and will have nothing said about him. so i learnt few weeks back when i said pulis didnt have a clue to just dont bother saying anything!
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Post by nathan on Oct 26, 2008 17:18:43 GMT
It's interesting isn't it.
All these supporters spouting utter nonsense following what was a disappointing, though not wholly disheartening performance.
We are in a fight to retain our status. We're not going to win every game, and certainly will be in line for a few score lines like the one today. Therefore, we need supporters realistic and understanding of what we can expect to achieve.
I was disappointed with the manner of the defeat at Pompey, though I am not left totally deflated by the performance from our lot today. To simply look at the scoreline is naive. We should have put ourselves in the game at 1-0 and there were further opportunities at 2-0. Yes, we haven't put them away, and granted, we need to be more ruthless - but I'd be more concerned had we lost 2-0 and not looked like scoring. We've lost 3-0 to a side with fantastic pace and power in attack - you're going to be susceptible to conceding goals when you invariably offer more space for them to roam in as you chase the game.
All we hear is Hull are doing this, that and the other - they are the exception rather than the rule.
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Oct 26, 2008 17:22:02 GMT
It's interesting isn't it. All these supporters spouting utter nonsense following what was a disappointing, though not wholly disheartening performance. We are in a fight to retain our status. We're not going to win every game, and certainly will be in line for a few score lines like the one today. Therefore, we need supporters realistic and understanding of what we can expect to achieve. I was disappointed with the manner of the defeat at Pompey, though I am not left totally deflated by the performance from our lot today. To simply look at the scoreline is naive. We should have put ourselves in the game at 1-0 and there were further opportunities at 2-0. Yes, we haven't put them away, and granted, we need to be more ruthless - but I'd be more concerned had we lost 2-0 and not looked like scoring. We've lost 3-0 to a side with fantastic pace and power in attack - you're going to be susceptible to conceding goals when you invariably offer more space for them to roam in as you chase the game. All we hear is Hull are doing this, that and the other - they are the exception rather than the rule. Who gives a fuck whether they are the exception. They are a newly promoted team like us. The difference is huge. Their approach is all about no fear of the opposition. They set out to WIN each game REGARDLESS of the oppositon. We go out to avoid losing and when we go down a goal, we have fuck all to get back into the game. Comfortable victory Sky say. How many times has that been said about Hull. The only difference between Hull and Stoke is that the former are positive and we, well, we are shit scared of the Prem. SGS
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Post by nathan on Oct 26, 2008 17:23:44 GMT
Of course, SGS.
We have played tentatively throughout the whole game, hence City were provided with more space to grab the two goals that ensured victory.
Of course.
I've been enlightened.
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Post by sgtpotter89 on Oct 26, 2008 17:24:08 GMT
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