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Post by oracle on Aug 17, 2008 10:24:07 GMT
after sleeping on it, im still pee'd off so to speak
i dont like being humilated pulis
so heres whats going to happen pulis:
1) you are going to drop griffin and buy a right back
2) play dicko at left back
3) buy a CREATIVE left midfielder and drop cresswell
4) drop mama and play fuller
5) emphasise keeping posession of the football in training sessions
3-0 down at half time against an average bolton team just isnt good enough
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Post by griffoisalegend on Aug 17, 2008 10:25:01 GMT
He'll do all of that apart from play Dicko - who isn't good enough..
Bolton are a good side and will have no problems in my opinion with players like Elmander.
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Post by slangking on Aug 17, 2008 10:26:50 GMT
Is this nobhead bringbackmuggleton again?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 17, 2008 10:29:01 GMT
humiliated? Do you actually know what the word means?
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Aug 17, 2008 10:35:14 GMT
Some of the dross posted on here defies belief After just one game the heads are going down FFS  |
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Post by oracle on Aug 17, 2008 10:36:14 GMT
WOD
apart from kitson, what were the positives you took from that game then??????
cant wait for this reply ;D
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Post by Mozzaa on Aug 17, 2008 10:37:33 GMT
All these people who are depressed f*(k off unless you have something worthly to say or not depressing bollox!
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Post by Akinbadbuy on Aug 17, 2008 10:37:48 GMT
Oracle
Im sure Pulis and the team don't like being humiliated either, but your comments are a bit hasty dont you think considering this was our first game in the top flight.
In reply to your comments -:
1) I agree Griff aint good enough but please name me one realistic target who could replace him.
2) Overall I thought mama played well yesterday. Faded towards the end but I think all the players heads went down. He should not be dropped. There were others who had alot worse a game than mama. Shawcross was awful for their 2nd and 3rd goals.
If Pulis is going to play Kitson up front on his own id try fuller on the left as he is great at running at defenders and cutting in.
If you went to the game oracle you would have seen that we were really unlucky to be 3 down at half time and the score totally flattered them.
Its going to be a long hard year!!
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Post by oracle on Aug 17, 2008 10:39:52 GMT
i went to the game and thought bolton could of had 6 or 7
nolan was outwitting whelan and oli
like i say, an average bolton team
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2008 10:39:54 GMT
Its very early days. Yesterday was a wake up call and the reaction of the press is ridiculous, but point 5 is relevant. We have to keep the ball better.
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Post by slangking on Aug 17, 2008 10:40:49 GMT
Oracle prick has a big smile on his face, when will this waanker be banned for good?
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Post by oracle on Aug 17, 2008 10:42:29 GMT
this is a messageboard for opinions and this is mine
im a realist, i rarely swear or spam
the premiership is on a different planet to the championship
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Post by Mozzaa on Aug 17, 2008 10:44:23 GMT
BTW average Bolton?...you call Muamba, Nolan, Elmander, Jaaskelainen, Cahill, O'Brien, Steinsson & Taylor average...what planet you living on?
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Post by oracle on Aug 17, 2008 10:46:50 GMT
O'Brien, Steinsson & Taylor are all very average yes
the others you mentioned are hardly world beaters are they ;D
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Aug 17, 2008 10:49:08 GMT
If you cant cope then dont watch!! ???
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Post by Rebelliousjukebox on Aug 17, 2008 10:50:23 GMT
this is a messageboard for opinions and this is mine im a realist, i rarely swear or spam the premiership is on a different planet to the championship Fair enough, but I'd suggest you're a pessimist more than a realist to be able to be so extremely negative after 1 match. |
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Post by oracle on Aug 17, 2008 10:51:52 GMT
if we were playing an established top half team i wouldnt be moaning, but considering it was bolton, i am right to react like this IMO
come on you potters, you can do it
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Post by myleftboot on Aug 17, 2008 10:52:01 GMT
I aren't going into to much criticism as it is done now but at LEAST we will need to sort that marking out. 5 or 6 players staring at a striker when the balls coming to him isn't on at all. They need to get stuck in to them and not stand off.
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Post by polpott on Aug 17, 2008 10:52:55 GMT
BTW average Bolton?...you call Muamba, Nolan, Elmander, Jaaskelainen, Cahill, O'Brien, Steinsson & Taylor average...what planet you living on? No, I wouldn't say they were average. In Premiership terms they are well below average. |
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Post by Akinbadbuy on Aug 17, 2008 10:53:34 GMT
Oracle
I dont think your being realistic at all mate.
Its all very well to sit there and slag the performance and certain players but this is the premier league, the supposed best league in the world!
Yes alot of those Bolton players arent world beaters but compared to our squad they are. Why else are we favourites to go down?
Your entitled to your opinion but if you had and ounce of footballing knowledge you would see exactly how difficult a task TP and the squad face this year and realise that a fix to our problems wont come overnight.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Aug 17, 2008 10:54:00 GMT
WOD apart from kitson, what were the positives you took from that game then?????? cant wait for this reply ;D Read 'Back down to earth..we were never off it' Thread by chuffed for my reply Blarting because we've lost the first game FFS |
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Post by chrispk76 on Aug 17, 2008 10:57:16 GMT
Oracle Im sure Pulis and the team don't like being humiliated either, but your comments are a bit hasty dont you think considering this was our first game in the top flight. In reply to your comments -: 1) I agree Griff aint good enough but please name me one realistic target who could replace him. 2) Overall I thought mama played well yesterday. Faded towards the end but I think all the players heads went down. He should not be dropped. There were others who had alot worse a game than mama. Shawcross was awful for their 2nd and 3rd goals. If Pulis is going to play Kitson up front on his own id try fuller on the left as he is great at running at defenders and cutting in. If you went to the game oracle you would have seen that we were really unlucky to be 3 down at half time and the score totally flattered them. Its going to be a long hard year!! volz rumoured 500k to ipswich is a far far better right back than griff. GRIFF IS A LEFT BACK ALWAYS HAS BEEN ALWAYS WILL BE AND ONLY PULIS THINKS ANY DIFFERENT mama did ok for 15mins then turned to shit. shawcross had a mare and may well lose his place to faye (keeping cort in the team) i didn't notice cresswell was on the pitch until something like the 55th minute i'm confident with a fully fit sorensen davies - faye - cort/shawcross - griff lawrence - delap - oli - winger fuller - kitson as a starting 11 it would be enough to survive |
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Post by Rebelliousjukebox on Aug 17, 2008 11:08:29 GMT
if we were playing an established top half team i wouldnt be moaning, but considering it was bolton, i am right to react like this IMO come on you potters, you can do it You HAVE the right to react the way you have, but that doesn't mean that everyone else will consider that you are correct. By the way, would you describe yourself as a natural pessimist, because that is the impression I get? |
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Aug 17, 2008 11:14:07 GMT
It's amazing how quickly some people give up, isn't it Jukebox? We lose the first game and the dummy gets spat-out Think Oracles telling us more about himself..than he is about Stoke  |
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Post by york stokie on Aug 17, 2008 11:17:09 GMT
1) Had a bid accepted for Davies from Southampton, who presumably will be played at right back
2) He mixed and matched with Wilko and Dicko all last season, so what makes you think he will do anything different this year?
3) He knows that he needs a left winger i am sure
4) Maybe Mama would have been dropped yesterday IF Fuller had been fully fit, but you cant tell him that he should have done something if he didnt have the option to do it yesterday anyway.
5) Do you go to training? Are you in the dressing room for the team talks? You dont know what he says to the players. From my point of view Bolton played just as much long ball football as us before they scored their 1st goal, and then the players began to settle down and pass the ball. This may very well have been the case with us if we had have got a goal to settle the nerves.
Disappointed stoke fan (disappointed with fans, not team)
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Post by Soi Cowboy on Aug 17, 2008 11:18:37 GMT
This is that moron Muggleton again
You can tell because he can't write/spell for shit and spews the same dross every post.
Would have thought he'd humiliated himself enough already.
Ignore the prick.
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Post by Rebelliousjukebox on Aug 17, 2008 11:27:09 GMT
It's amazing how quickly some people give up, isn't it Jukebox? We lose the first game and the dummy gets spat-out Think Oracles telling us more about himself..than he is about Stoke Exactly, Magician of Drool. |
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Post by potters 22 on Aug 17, 2008 11:30:53 GMT
Oracle (bbm) --- Are you still upset with pulis for getting us promoted?
You come across as very bitter and Angry.
The only reason for this is how i see it pulis proved you totally wrong last season!!!
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Post by jarhead on Aug 17, 2008 11:44:44 GMT
Yesterday for me confirmed that Griff,Cresswell,Sidibe,Delap will never be good enough at this level and that was against an average side in Bolton,anyone who thinks they are better than average are just dumb and blinkerd.
Don't get me wrong for long periods we looked ok but needed to keep the ball better and replacing those above with players in natural positions then our game will step up again.
Dicko is good enough and has a left foot and great energy and passion something Grffin never shows and he is fuckin captain but Dicko's energy to get up the pitch and give us balance like the GOAL HE CREATED FOR FULLER is what is required not right footers both at left-back and left-wing like yesterday which in the CCC you can just get away with but not in this league.we know Dicko aint Zidane on the ball but who gives a fuck he defends first and that is the most important thing.
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Post by kingdeano on Aug 17, 2008 11:49:52 GMT
Yesterday for me confirmed that Griff,Cresswell,Sidibe,Delap will never be good enough at this level and that was against an average side in Bolton,anyone who thinks they are better than average are just dumb and blinkerd. Don't get me wrong for long periods we looked ok but needed to keep the ball better and replacing those above with players in natural positions then our game will step up again. Dicko is good enough and has a left foot and great energy and passion something Grffin never shows and he is fuckin captain but Dicko's energy to get up the pitch and give us balance like the GOAL HE CREATED FOR FULLER is what is required not right footers both at left-back and left-wing like yesterday which in the CCC you can just get away with but not in this league.we know Dicko aint Zidane on the ball but who gives a fuck he defends first and that is the most important thing. agree with everything in that 100% orate peck! |
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