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Post by serpico on Jul 5, 2008 11:39:36 GMT
Sharia law / muslims /angry young asians can all fuck off, come Monday morning most police forces in this country will waiting for something like this to happen again by scum like these. Happy 7/7 you Englanders. Why did 7/7 happen though ?
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Post by powchirper on Jul 5, 2008 11:49:17 GMT
is it because of a war in the east that has fuck all to do with the INNOCENT people who were MURDERED by these SCUM.
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Post by powchirper on Jul 5, 2008 11:52:43 GMT
Or is it because their holy book tells them to do it. Read to them by twats like this.
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Post by serpico on Jul 5, 2008 12:02:34 GMT
They don't need a hook handed man with a glass eye to brain wash them, It's because they read stories like this one everyday, thats what motivates them, and like it or not, our foreign policy has unintended consequences, and Tony Blair was warned about it before he started the war on Iraq, which has killed over 1 million innocent Iraqi's, but he didn't care what the consequences were.
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Post by Hiram on Jul 5, 2008 12:16:23 GMT
The Muslim Faith Preaches Hate Anyway! That's like saying Christianity preaches hate because IRA terrorists were Catholics. It's just plain wrong, ignorant and offensive.
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Post by powchirper on Jul 5, 2008 12:16:52 GMT
Easy solution is for them to openly declare a war on us the innocent white English then it can be sorted good and proper, There will only be one winner and it wont be some scummy hook handed preachers army. This will never happen as all these twats are grade A cowards anyway.
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Post by serpico on Jul 5, 2008 12:58:27 GMT
Easy solution is for them to openly declare a war on us the innocent white English then it can be sorted good and proper, There will only be one winner and it wont be some scummy hook handed preachers army. This will never happen as all these twats are grade A cowards anyway. I like it how we play the victims in all of this, when our government has been waging war on the middle east, overtly and covertly, for years and years, we think we can go around bombing countires and not expect any blowback from it, well thats not how the world works, if we want to continue the policy of military intervention/biased support for Israel/installing brutal dictators like saddam Hussein and the Shah of Iran, then we can expect more 7/7 type attacks, which whilst tragic and abhorrent are nothing compared to what we have done over in muslim lands, directly and indirectly, people act as though these attacks come out of the blue sky, unprovoked, which is far from the truth, anyone who has studied why they attack us knows full well why it happens. For instance, i bet nobody on this message board has ever heard the former US united nations ambassador say this- But i bet you EVERY single muslim in the world has, how do you think this makes them feel ? how would it make you feel if it were the Iraqi ambassador saying that half a million British dead was "worth it" ? you'd probably be more than a little pissed off, no ?
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Post by powchirper on Jul 5, 2008 13:02:25 GMT
when our government
Not in my fuckin name mate, no way pedro.
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Post by serpico on Jul 5, 2008 13:12:09 GMT
when our government Not in my fuckin name mate, no way pedro. Good, I'm glad you're against the wars in the middle east, but thats is the reason why they attack us, because we're over there occupying holy lands, thats one of the reasons 9/11 happened, US troops based in saudi arabia on holy land.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jul 5, 2008 17:02:53 GMT
Actually serpico, Osama Bin Laden made no explicit link between violence in the Middle-East and 9/11...it was only later on that such a link was established...neither did he make any explicit link between 9/11 and other Middle Eastern conflicts...
The objective of 9/11 was an attack on the USA and its political system and the message that you are not safe..we are amongst you
Flying planes into buildings full of people is wrong..FULL STOP
Blowing yourself up in shopping centres is wrong FULL STOP
There is no excuse - in the Middle East or elsewhere
But once people start finding one - the bombing and the slaughter of innocent lives continues
Two wrongs never make a right
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Post by serpico on Jul 5, 2008 17:24:30 GMT
Actually serpico, Osama Bin Laden made no explicit link between violence in the Middle-East and 9/11...it was only later on that such a link was established...neither did he make any explicit link between 9/11 and other Middle Eastern conflicts... The objective of 9/11 was an attack on the USA and its political system and the message that you are not safe..we are amongst you Flying planes into buildings full of people is wrong..FULL STOP Blowing yourself up in shopping centres is wrong FULL STOP There is no excuse - in the Middle East or elsewhere But once people start finding one - the bombing and the slaughter of innocent lives continues Two wrongs never make a right Absolutely nowhere have i said that killing innocent people under any circumstances is right, all i was doing is pointing out the fact that you can't expect there to be no blowback from our policies in the middle east, thats why I am against military intervention, it only makes things worse and stirs up hatred towards us, especially in that region of the world. The core motivations for the 9/11 attacks were - US biased support for Israel over the palestinians - US troops stationed on holy land in Saudi Arabia (15 of the 19 hijackers were from saudi arabia) - The sanctions put on Iraq during the 90's which killed 500 thousand Iraqi children. - US support for police states in the middle east IE the Saudi regime, Pakistan, Egypt etc. Bin Laden made this clear before the attack, read " holy war" by Peter Bergan, he met in person with Bin laden and interviewed him prior to 9/11. They don't attack us for who we are, they attack us for what we do.
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Post by powchirper on Jul 5, 2008 17:31:54 GMT
How can we be to blame for these wars when imo this is what kicked it off,
-- Just before dawn on 2 August 1990, an army of some 100,000 Iraqi troops supported by tanks stormed into Kuwait and seized the country in just five hours.
I may well be wrong though as there is a fair chance that Pulis could well be to blame for everything.
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Post by serpico on Jul 5, 2008 17:34:49 GMT
And the objective of 9/11 was to slap the US in the face and suck US troops into quagmires in the middle east and drain the US's resources, George Bush and the neo-cons gladly heeded the call and even gave Bin Laden the bonus of the Iraq war and over throw of his enemy Saddam Hussein, The Iraq war has been a great advantage for Bin laden and co in rallying more people to their cause. By the way he also wants the US to bomb Iran, and Bush will probably oblige him there as well.
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Post by serpico on Jul 5, 2008 17:44:35 GMT
How can we be to blame for these wars when imo this is what kicked it off, -- Just before dawn on 2 August 1990, an army of some 100,000 Iraqi troops supported by tanks stormed into Kuwait and seized the country in just five hours.
I may well be wrong though as there is a fair chance that Pulis could well be to blame for everything. Perhaps we shouldn't have installed Saddam in the first place then ? also, the US deceived Saddam into invading Kuwait, they gave him a nod and a wink for the invasion when April Glaspie, then US ambassador to Baghdad, went to meet him- hannah.smith-family.com/archive/000169.html"I know you need funds. We understand that and our opinion is that you should have the opportunity to rebuild your country. But we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait."
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jul 5, 2008 17:51:06 GMT
I have read 'Holy War' by Peter Bergen
It's an interesting read
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Post by powchirper on Jul 5, 2008 18:01:24 GMT
I've read Mott the hoople by Willard Manus' good book. No war no killing no conspiricy theories, just a good read.
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