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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 24, 2024 7:52:48 GMT
On the same thread you've just shared. It's bollocks mate. In your opinion not mine,the met are shit scared of offending our Muslim population
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Post by sticky on Apr 24, 2024 8:02:16 GMT
Suprised that passed so peacefully tbf, why did they shut the pub? Don’t endear themselves to the public do they
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 24, 2024 8:15:08 GMT
Suprised that passed so peacefully tbf, why did they shut the pub? Don’t endear themselves to the public do they Like in most cases where reportings concerned I guess it’s difficult to say unless we know all the facts. All the video shows is the male being arrested we know nothing about him or what he did prior to being arrested. As I’m sure is the case with pretty much every video involving the police the videoer only wants you to see their version.
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Post by sticky on Apr 24, 2024 8:18:36 GMT
Suprised that passed so peacefully tbf, why did they shut the pub? Don’t endear themselves to the public do they Like in most cases where reportings concerned I guess it’s difficult to say unless we know all the facts. All the video shows is the male being arrested we know nothing about him or what he did prior to being arrested. As I’m sure is the case with pretty much every video involving the police the videoer only wants you to see their version. Yeah fair point that Cobs, just fuels the fire though doesn’t it, I thought certain posters were claiming that police sitting back and watching was the way forward.. not yesterday In that pub by the looks of it
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Post by thisisouryear on Apr 24, 2024 8:24:52 GMT
On the same thread you've just shared. It's bollocks mate. In your opinion not mine,the met are shit scared of offending our Muslim population It's just another edited video, the police weren't even heavy handed. Did they close the pub? Who knows. If they did they probably had a good reason for it but you only get clips of what they want you to see not what actually happened. The police weren't shoving people, it looked like they were quite calm given how much shit they were getting There's so many people with an agenda, unless I see it with my own eyes I don't believe much to be honest
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Post by thisisouryear on Apr 24, 2024 8:37:35 GMT
What does this prove? It's two very short clips probably manipulated to leave out a very large part of what may have actually happened. Is it an Eid celebration? I don't know. Is it a St George's Day celebration? I don't know. What I do know is there is a lot more to those videos than what's being shown I don't know how anyone can come to any sort of conclusion from such a short video and the thing is people believe this crap and the comments prove how easily people fall for anything There’s a couple of things to consider here 1- On the Eid “celebration” the officers in the video appear to be normal bobbies on the beat who were maybe there to predominantly engage. It may well be that the issues and violence came as a surprise and that they weren’t expected hence why they look less prepared and because maybe they weren’t public order trained. 2- In the St George’s day video the officers look like they’re PSU (public order trained) so are trained to deal with group violence. It may well be that there was intelligence received that there was trouble expected by a small group who may then precede to wind up those who hadn’t attended looking for trouble. Only guesswork though. As you say it’s a very short video and only those that were there really know the fully story so it’s all conjecture. It only takes a small number to wind a situation up and things can soon turn nasty and it can turn into a riot as has been demonstrated in the past with the likes of Bristol and the riots a few years back in London. There's so much manipulated information out there it's really depressing that so many people fall for it. It's lazy to just accept everything as being true and honest when the people posting clearly have an agenda. These people who put out false information are terrorists with the intention to anger people, groom people and ultimately try to get a reaction out them which in some cases will be violent.
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Post by sticky on Apr 24, 2024 8:45:37 GMT
There’s a couple of things to consider here 1- On the Eid “celebration” the officers in the video appear to be normal bobbies on the beat who were maybe there to predominantly engage. It may well be that the issues and violence came as a surprise and that they weren’t expected hence why they look less prepared and because maybe they weren’t public order trained. 2- In the St George’s day video the officers look like they’re PSU (public order trained) so are trained to deal with group violence. It may well be that there was intelligence received that there was trouble expected by a small group who may then precede to wind up those who hadn’t attended looking for trouble. Only guesswork though. As you say it’s a very short video and only those that were there really know the fully story so it’s all conjecture. It only takes a small number to wind a situation up and things can soon turn nasty and it can turn into a riot as has been demonstrated in the past with the likes of Bristol and the riots a few years back in London. There's so much manipulated information out there it's really depressing that so many people fall for it. It's lazy to just accept everything as being true and honest when the people posting clearly have an agenda. These people who put out false information are terrorists with the intention to anger people, groom people and ultimately try to get a reaction out them which in some cases will be violent. I agree, and it’s not just people on twitter, it goes much higher than that. It’s hard to believe a single word that comes out of this government’s mouth for a start, and most of these “inquiries” end up been watered down to the point of pointless.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 24, 2024 8:47:04 GMT
Like in most cases where reportings concerned I guess it’s difficult to say unless we know all the facts. All the video shows is the male being arrested we know nothing about him or what he did prior to being arrested. As I’m sure is the case with pretty much every video involving the police the videoer only wants you to see their version. Yeah fair point that Cobs, just fuels the fire though doesn’t it, I thought certain posters were claiming that police sitting back and watching was the way forward.. not yesterday I’m that pub by the looks of it It does as does badly timed videos like this where it could have the impact on the public that the Met Police are dancing to Mr Khans tune and that they’re over compensating to appease him. Which I don’t think they are but could see where people think they may be. Politics should never impact on policing and they should be allowed to get on with their job without being scrutinised for literally everything. Of course they should be accountable for severe breaches and over stepping the mark however 99 percent of the material on social media is opinion (not fact), edited videos etc which is used to twist people’s views all over the place depending on the agenda of the person posting the footage.
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Post by thisisouryear on Apr 24, 2024 9:00:20 GMT
There's so much manipulated information out there it's really depressing that so many people fall for it. It's lazy to just accept everything as being true and honest when the people posting clearly have an agenda. These people who put out false information are terrorists with the intention to anger people, groom people and ultimately try to get a reaction out them which in some cases will be violent. I agree, and it’s not just people on twitter, it goes much higher than that. It’s hard to believe a single word that comes out of this government’s mouth for a start, and most of these “inquiries” end up been watered down to the point of pointless. This government have a nasty habit of throwing soundbites out there with the intention of using anger to win votes. They seem to have given up on creating policies to improve people's lives everything is an attack on this group or that group. They want to stop THEM from doing that or THOSE from doing that. They use patriotism as a weapon. There's no empathy in anything they offer, helping people has been replaced by turning people against eachother. It's just one big blame game and the longer it continues the less chance there is of anything getting sorted.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 24, 2024 9:03:48 GMT
In your opinion not mine,the met are shit scared of offending our Muslim population It's just another edited video, the police weren't even heavy handed. Did they close the pub? Who knows. If they did they probably had a good reason for it but you only get clips of what they want you to see not what actually happened. The police weren't shoving people, it looked like they were quite calm given how much shit they were getting There's so many people with an agenda, unless I see it with my own eyes I don't believe much to be honest It's absolute bonkers isn't it? The police DIDN'T storm in, they WEREN'T heavy handed and they WEREN'T shoving people around. It's like they write such bollocks and then don't even expect you to watch the video that they've posted, which contradicts their version of events! 🤦♂️
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Apr 24, 2024 9:09:35 GMT
I agree, and it’s not just people on twitter, it goes much higher than that. It’s hard to believe a single word that comes out of this government’s mouth for a start, and most of these “inquiries” end up been watered down to the point of pointless. This government have a nasty habit of throwing soundbites out there with the intention of using anger to win votes. They seem to have given up on creating policies to improve people's lives everything is an attack on this group or that group. They want to stop THEM from doing that or THOSE from doing that. They use patriotism as a weapon. There's no empathy in anything they offer, helping people has been replaced by turning people against eachother. It's just one big blame game and the longer it continues the less chance there is of anything getting sorted. The current govt are simply shyte. They lost the plot years ago. All we've done is watch an internal civil war in the party and everything they've done or tried to do has been affected by that. Hence why were in a reet fookin mess. I won't vote labour personally cos I reckon they'll be totally shit too. But maybe the change will give everyone a break for a while...
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Post by knype on Apr 24, 2024 9:33:48 GMT
And the same gymnastics to defend terrorist sympathisers and not see that he police yet again dealt with crowds that got rowdy and ignored their orders differently Defend 'terrorist sympathisers' for what exactly and when knype? What orders did the police ignore? So there was not trouble at the Pro-Hamas protest? not peace march by the way! The police treated the crowds different yesterday than the Pro Hamas
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 24, 2024 9:37:47 GMT
Defend 'terrorist sympathisers' for what exactly and when knype? What orders did the police ignore? So there was not trouble at the Pro-Hamas protest? not peace march by the way! The police treated the crowds different yesterday than the Pro Hamas You attended both?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 24, 2024 9:51:39 GMT
Defend 'terrorist sympathisers' for what exactly and when knype? What orders did the police ignore? So there was not trouble at the Pro-Hamas protest? not peace march by the way! The police treated the crowds different yesterday than the Pro Hamas
I would like you to explain in what way I have defended 'terrorist sympathisers' (which is what you accused me of) and explain what I was defending them of doing and when I did it. Is that not a reasonable request to make of you?
And if possible, explain what orders were given to the police yesterday and how did they ignore them?
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 24, 2024 10:10:06 GMT
Some of the videos posted on here are clearly just put together by groomers whose sole objective is to cause public disorder and division, usually aimed at young impressionable types. To see it posted by adults on here is disheartening to say the least. To base one's opinions about anything from these is just nuts and sometimes harming.
I wouldn't trust anything posted on Twitter/X and similar platforms tbh, its just unfiltered, reactionary, distorted, toxic fodder which aims to undermine attempts to create any sort of cohesive society.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 24, 2024 10:25:03 GMT
The way this young copper deals with such outright provocation from Fox, is a credit to his uniform.
Is this what we mean by 2 tier policing?
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Post by emretezzy on Apr 24, 2024 11:09:58 GMT
The way this young copper deals with such outright provocation from Fox, is a credit to his uniform. Is this what we mean by 2 tier policing? I played a little game of left high-jack bingo on this thread as I just started reading it. I went for page 3... I was a little optimistic. It was actually Page 2.
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 24, 2024 11:13:16 GMT
Some of the videos posted on here are clearly just put together by groomers whose sole objective is to cause public disorder and division, usually aimed at young impressionable types. To see it posted by adults on here is disheartening to say the least. To base one's opinions about anything from these is just nuts and sometimes harming. I wouldn't trust anything posted on Twitter/X and similar platforms tbh, its just unfiltered, reactionary, distorted, toxic fodder which aims to undermine attempts to create any sort of cohesive society. Couldn’t agree more about Twitter. It’s an awful site designed to keep people angry with each other.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 24, 2024 11:27:13 GMT
On the same thread you've just shared. It's bollocks mate. In your opinion not mine,the met are shit scared of offending our Muslim population What better way of celebrating St George's Day than with a rousing rendition of "10 German Bombers" My grandad didn't fight two World Wars for this nonsense......
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Post by werrington on Apr 24, 2024 12:10:37 GMT
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Post by gawa on Apr 24, 2024 12:33:54 GMT
You're just a cheap knock of Warrington. A cheap knock of Warrington. You're just a cheap knock of Warrington. (Sung in football chant style)* *This has nothing to do with the thread but just felt inclined to sing this to you.
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Post by werrington on Apr 24, 2024 12:35:42 GMT
You're just a cheap knock of Warrington. A cheap knock of Warrington. You're just a cheap knock of Warrington. (Sung in football chant style)* *This has nothing to do with the thread but just felt inclined to sing this to you. Ahem…..wErrington
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Post by milton58 on Apr 24, 2024 13:14:16 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 24, 2024 13:57:39 GMT
He said Londonistan. Edgy.........
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Post by claytonscrubs on Apr 24, 2024 14:44:25 GMT
An alternative St George’s Day image.
Respect 🏴
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 24, 2024 15:25:57 GMT
The way this young copper deals with such outright provocation from Fox, is a credit to his uniform. Is this what we mean by 2 tier policing? Fox is just a bully. Trying to bully the young officer who doesn’t bite. There’s only one person embarrassing themselves here. Fox is lucky he didn’t get himself arrested for public order for his language. What he doesn’t realise is that by behaving in this way the first word people think of isn’t “patriotic” it’s a million miles away from that. You can be patriotic without acting like he does. A true patriot is someone who gives their life like many did in WW1/2 or the Falkland’s not someone who’s just a loudmouth who makes out that he represents the country by shouting his mouth off. What is fascinating is that there’s plenty on here that aren’t usually so defensive of police that are fighting their corner over the last week when there’s been equally bad behaviour that’s been defended in the past. I guess that’s politics and who the aggressor is.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 24, 2024 15:47:45 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 24, 2024 15:48:34 GMT
The way this young copper deals with such outright provocation from Fox, is a credit to his uniform. Is this what we mean by 2 tier policing? What is fascinating is that there’s plenty on here that aren’t usually so defensive of police that are fighting their corner over the last week when there’s been equally bad behaviour that’s been defended in the past. I guess that’s politics and who the aggressor is. What specific examples are you thinking of Cobs? I'd personaly like to think that when I think the police need (imo) to be commended, I'll say as much and if I believe they need to be criticised, I'll also say as much.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 24, 2024 16:27:24 GMT
What is fascinating is that there’s plenty on here that aren’t usually so defensive of police that are fighting their corner over the last week when there’s been equally bad behaviour that’s been defended in the past. I guess that’s politics and who the aggressor is. What specific examples are you thinking of Cobs? I'd personaly like to think that when I think the police need (imo) to be commended, I'll say as much and if I believe they need to be criticised, I'll also say as much. The riots in Bristol was one case. The incident with the 2 lads in Wales on the e-bike being another. There’s loads. I’ll do some digging when I have a bit more time. It was all about what the police did wrong with zero responsibility to the other parties involved. The post wasn’t a dig at you it was a generalisation.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 24, 2024 16:53:43 GMT
What specific examples are you thinking of Cobs? I'd personaly like to think that when I think the police need (imo) to be commended, I'll say as much and if I believe they need to be criticised, I'll also say as much. The riots in Bristol was one case. The incident with the 2 lads in Wales on the e-bike being another. There’s loads. I’ll do some digging when I have a bit more time. It was all about what the police did wrong with zero responsibility to the other parties involved. The post wasn’t a dig at you it was a generalisation. I didn't think it was mate, no worries. I was just interested in your point.
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