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Post by foster on Apr 23, 2024 18:19:36 GMT
Anyone who has an objection or criticism of celebrating the patron Saint of England is a nob imo. I'm not sure too many people do object. However there seems to be an expectation that somehow we should all go out and get rat arsed like the Irish. In fact the OP was "Will there be many folk around our great country suited and booted celebrating with a few beers?". If that's what folk want to do crack on - no-one's stopping them - just don't make an issue about the fact that might not be what everyone wants to do. St George is a Christian saint so perhaps celebration should be in church or with traditional English passtimes not seeing how much foreign lager you can neck. I don't care how people celebrate it. It's free country (England). People drink on St Patrick's day and I don't think many of them even think of Ireland, so I don't see an issue, other than the one caused by wankers trying to say that only right wingers celebrate St George.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 23, 2024 18:22:52 GMT
I’d better check in on Big Nige, I bet he’s celebrating with a pint or two
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Apr 23, 2024 18:26:43 GMT
I'm not sure too many people do object. However there seems to be an expectation that somehow we should all go out and get rat arsed like the Irish. In fact the OP was "Will there be many folk around our great country suited and booted celebrating with a few beers?". If that's what folk want to do crack on - no-one's stopping them - just don't make an issue about the fact that might not be what everyone wants to do. St George is a Christian saint so perhaps celebration should be in church or with traditional English passtimes not seeing how much foreign lager you can neck. I don't care how people celebrate it. It's free country (England). People drink on St Patrick's day and I don't think many of them even think of Ireland, so I don't see an issue, other than the one caused by wankers trying to say that only right wingers celebrate St George. They may not be the only ones to celebrate it but they certainly appropriate it for political ends - which has the effect of turning other folk off. Interesting take from ex EDL member www.independent.co.uk/voices/st-georges-day-edl-racism-far-right-britain-first-england-a8318456.html
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Post by foster on Apr 23, 2024 18:30:28 GMT
I’d better check in on Big Nige, I bet he’s celebrating with a pint or two I'm a remainer and I've lived less in the UK than most on here (20 years), but this disloyalty to your home country really pisses me off. Respect for your country is a minimum. I've got no time for any fuckers who bitch and moan about what is, overall (politics aside), a great country.
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Post by milton58 on Apr 23, 2024 18:31:07 GMT
It's our patron saints today for the English today and people turn it into politics like usual...were all supposed to be English FFS . God knows what would happen to this country if we were in Ukraines situation we would be fucked
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 23, 2024 18:33:27 GMT
For all its faults I’m proud to be English and there’s nowhere I’d rather live even though times are tough at the moment. When I look at other countries in the world people don’t realise how lucky they are living here. We have an amazing history which needs celebrating good and bad but not erasing or apologising for like some would like. Whether it’s the footy, music, TV drama we lead the way and we should be proud. There’s always a small minority that let the majority down but we’re generally a friendly but proud bunch on the whole. God save the king !! In relation to 2 tier policing I think it’s more a case of 2 tier reporting and it’s from all sides left or right depending on what you want to believe. The press are a disgrace and part of the reason that no one knows what’s happening any more.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 23, 2024 18:33:42 GMT
So you're not denying that is the point you are making then. How sad. If you're not proud of your country Paul then maybe you should consider moving to Palestine or Ukraine, where you'd probably be more happy. Pretty pathetic that is mate. I was pulling somebody up for defending a police horse being attacked and you jump in with another one of your incredibly immature posts. You really are a bit of a child.
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Post by foster on Apr 23, 2024 18:34:58 GMT
I don't care how people celebrate it. It's free country (England). People drink on St Patrick's day and I don't think many of them even think of Ireland, so I don't see an issue, other than the one caused by wankers trying to say that only right wingers celebrate St George. They may not be the only ones to celebrate it but they certainly appropriate it for political ends - which has the effect of turning other folk off. Interesting take from ex EDL member www.independent.co.uk/voices/st-georges-day-edl-racism-far-right-britain-first-england-a8318456.htmlI don't even care about the video. It's all bullshit... blah blah blah. The issue is why the celebration is even being likened to that in the first place. So people should be ashamed to celebrate their own country just because some nobs use it as a marketing tool?
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Apr 23, 2024 18:36:11 GMT
I don't even care about the video. It's all bullshit... blah blah blah. The issue is why the celebration is even being likened to that in the first place. So people should be ashamed to celebrate their own country just because some nobs use it as a marketing tool? What video?
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Post by wannabee on Apr 23, 2024 18:41:11 GMT
So you're not denying that is the point you are making then. How sad. If you're not proud of your country Paul then maybe you should consider moving to Palestine or Ukraine, where you'd probably be more happy. Paul asked Knype for clarification on a single point, the attack on the Police Horse. Knype chose not to answer the question as is his prerogative There have been various threads on this MB about Horse Racing and debates and whether it's cruel to Horses. Some who were quite sure it was have commented on the the current thread but have expressed no opinion 🤔
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Post by foster on Apr 23, 2024 18:45:32 GMT
If you're not proud of your country Paul then maybe you should consider moving to Palestine or Ukraine, where you'd probably be more happy. Paul asked Knype for clarification on a single point, the attack on the Police Horse. Knype chose not to answer the question as is his prerogative There have been various threads on this MB about Horse Racing and debates and whether it's cruel to Horses. Some who were quite sure it was have commented on the the current thread but have expressed no opinion 🤔 That's fascinating, but has no relation to the topic. Maybe you and Paul go should go and post in the grand national thread if you have no allegiance to your own country.
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Post by knype on Apr 23, 2024 18:46:43 GMT
If you're not proud of your country Paul then maybe you should consider moving to Palestine or Ukraine, where you'd probably be more happy. Pretty pathetic that is mate. I was pulling somebody up for defending a police horse being attacked and you jump in with another one of your incredibly immature posts. You really are a bit of a child. Where did I defend a police horse getting attacked ?
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Post by knype on Apr 23, 2024 18:47:38 GMT
If you're not proud of your country Paul then maybe you should consider moving to Palestine or Ukraine, where you'd probably be more happy. Paul asked Knype for clarification on a single point, the attack on the Police Horse. Knype chose not to answer the question as is his prerogative There have been various threads on this MB about Horse Racing and debates and whether it's cruel to Horses. Some who were quite sure it was have commented on the the current thread but have expressed no opinion 🤔 Did Paul answer my question over the 2 tier policing ?
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Post by chamberlain on Apr 23, 2024 18:47:52 GMT
Happy St Georges day folks... except of course the ones who hate the country.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Apr 23, 2024 18:48:06 GMT
I’d better check in on Big Nige, I bet he’s celebrating with a pint or two I'm a remainer and I've lived less in the UK than most on here (20 years), but this disloyalty to your home country really pisses me off. Respect for your country is a minimum. I've got no time for any fuckers who bitch and moan about what is, overall (politics aside), a great country. Amen to that. There is a reason so many want to live here. When I travel I think part of the beauty and charm of those countries is the passion and pride I see in one's heritage, culture and country as a whole. And it's so interesting as a tourist to learn about it. You go to anywhere - Indonesia, Costa Rica, India, Sri Lanka, Italy, Romania, Turkey wherever and there are flags everywhere, lining the streets and a population that is so immensely proud of being patriotic. Meanwhile we've got to a point where our country's football shirt doesn't even represent the fucking flag of the nation. We see far more lgbtq flags on social media than we do the St Georges flag.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 23, 2024 18:48:44 GMT
In relation to 2 tier policing I think it’s more a case of 2 tier reporting and it’s from all sides left or right depending on what you want to believe. So you don't agree with the people that have suggested that what has happened today, is an example of two tier policing today then Cobs?
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Post by wannabee on Apr 23, 2024 18:51:10 GMT
Pretty pathetic that is mate. I was pulling somebody up for defending a police horse being attacked and you jump in with another one of your incredibly immature posts. You really are a bit of a child. Where did I defend a police horse getting attacked ? You didn't but you didn't condemn it when you were specifically asked if you did
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 23, 2024 18:51:12 GMT
Pretty pathetic that is mate. I was pulling somebody up for defending a police horse being attacked and you jump in with another one of your incredibly immature posts. You really are a bit of a child. Where did I defend a police horse getting attacked ? Christ alive. I even specifically asked you if that was the point you were making and in your reply you didn't deny it. 🤦♂️
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Post by foster on Apr 23, 2024 18:53:42 GMT
Where did I defend a police horse getting attacked ? Christ alive. I even specifically asked you if that was the point you were making and in your reply you didn't deny it. 🤦♂️ You're an embarrassment. Arguing over nonsensical shit. Get a life ffs.
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Post by wannabee on Apr 23, 2024 18:57:28 GMT
Paul asked Knype for clarification on a single point, the attack on the Police Horse. Knype chose not to answer the question as is his prerogative There have been various threads on this MB about Horse Racing and debates and whether it's cruel to Horses. Some who were quite sure it was have commented on the the current thread but have expressed no opinion 🤔 That's fascinating, but has no relation to the topic. Maybe you and Paul go should go and post in the grand national thread if you have no allegiance to your own country. It has everything to do with what people will condone or not if different circumstances are inconvenient I have no reason to seek your advice as to what being allegiant to my Country entails
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Post by foster on Apr 23, 2024 18:58:38 GMT
That's fascinating, but has no relation to the topic. Maybe you and Paul go should go and post in the grand national thread if you have no allegiance to your own country. It has everything to do with what people will condone or not if different circumstances are inconvenient I have no reason to seek your advice as to what being allegiant to my Country entails In English?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 23, 2024 19:05:40 GMT
Paul asked Knype for clarification on a single point, the attack on the Police Horse. Knype chose not to answer the question as is his prerogative There have been various threads on this MB about Horse Racing and debates and whether it's cruel to Horses. Some who were quite sure it was have commented on the the current thread but have expressed no opinion 🤔 Did Paul answer my question over the 2 tier policing ? I don't see an example of two tier policing. What I see, is people who have been asked to march in a particular area attempting to ignore the instructions of the police and go somewhere else, if they HAD have stayed in the area that had been agreed with the organisers, then it's perfectly reasonable to assume, that the trouble wouldn't have even started in the first place. When Tommy Robinson and a thousand of his mates rucked up in November, 100 of them got arrested and a number of police were put in hospital. Now there have been numerous peace marches where 500,000 people have turned up and using the same percentages that would have resulted in 50,000 people being arrested. But we haven't seen anything remotely like those numbers arrested, indeed when we have seen 500,000 peace marchers turn up we haven't even seen 100 people arrested. Do you know why this is? It's because the peace marchers have no interest in attacking the police. Anyhow, are you going to condemn the police horse being attacked today?
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Post by knype on Apr 23, 2024 19:08:10 GMT
Did Paul answer my question over the 2 tier policing ? I don't see an example of two tier policing. What I see, is people who have been asked to march in a particular area attempting to ignore the instructions of the police and go somewhere else, if they HAD have stayed in the area that had been agreed with the organisers, then it's perfectly reasonable to assume, that the trouble wouldn't have even started. When Tommy Robinson and a thousand of his mates rucked up in November, 100 of them got arrested and a number of police were put on hospital. Now there have been numerous peace marches where 500,000 people have turned up and using the same percentages that would have resulted in 50,000 people being arrested. But we haven't seen anything remotely like those numbers arrested, indeed when we have seen 500,000 peace marchers turn up we haven't even seen 100 people arrested. Do you know why this is? It's because the peace marchers have no interest in attacking the police. Anyhow, are you going to condemn the police horse being attacked today? Yes, it's disgusting and he's rightly arrested. When you say peace protest why do lots dress in Hamas garb ? Why chants about obliterating Israel ? Why damage property and monuments ? I bet you also defended the BLM protest marches ?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 23, 2024 19:08:44 GMT
Christ alive. I even specifically asked you if that was the point you were making and in your reply you didn't deny it. 🤦♂️ You're an embarrassment. Arguing over nonsensical shit. Get a life ffs. 🤠
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Post by gawa on Apr 23, 2024 19:10:44 GMT
For all its faults I’m proud to be English and there’s nowhere I’d rather live even though times are tough at the moment. When I look at other countries in the world people don’t realise how lucky they are living here. We have an amazing history which needs celebrating good and bad but not erasing or apologising for like some would like. Whether it’s the footy, music, TV drama we lead the way and we should be proud. There’s always a small minority that let the majority down but we’re generally a friendly but proud bunch on the whole. God save the king !! In relation to 2 tier policing I think it’s more a case of 2 tier reporting and it’s from all sides left or right depending on what you want to believe. The press are a disgrace and part of the reason that no one knows what’s happening any more. Wait till you visit Belfast mate. You'll soon want to be living somewhere else! Hope you enjoy your day pal!
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 23, 2024 19:12:01 GMT
Did Paul answer my question over the 2 tier policing ? I don't see an example of two tier policing. What I see, is people who have been asked to march in a particular area attempting to ignore the instructions of the police and go somewhere else, if they HAD have stayed in the area that had been agreed with the organisers, then it's perfectly reasonable to assume, that the trouble wouldn't have even started in the first place. When Tommy Robinson and a thousand of his mates rucked up in November, 100 of them got arrested and a number of police were put in hospital. Now there have been numerous peace marches where 500,000 people have turned up and using the same percentages that would have resulted in 50,000 people being arrested. But we haven't seen anything remotely like those numbers arrested, indeed when we have seen 500,000 peace marchers turn up we haven't even seen 100 people arrested. Do you know why this is? It's because the peace marchers have no interest in attacking the police. Anyhow, are you going to condemn the police horse being attacked today? The only thing you’ve done there is give an example of two tier policing isn’t it? There was plenty of violence going on in those so called peace marches and the coppers were told to turn a blind eye. This time they’ve been told to arrest anyone with the temerity to sport, shock horror, a face covering. Does the same apply to the thousands of Muslims with face coverings? I think not. The prick that slapped the horse should and I’m sure will be charged with animal cruelty at the very least
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 23, 2024 19:12:11 GMT
I don't see an example of two tier policing. What I see, is people who have been asked to march in a particular area attempting to ignore the instructions of the police and go somewhere else, if they HAD have stayed in the area that had been agreed with the organisers, then it's perfectly reasonable to assume, that the trouble wouldn't have even started. When Tommy Robinson and a thousand of his mates rucked up in November, 100 of them got arrested and a number of police were put on hospital. Now there have been numerous peace marches where 500,000 people have turned up and using the same percentages that would have resulted in 50,000 people being arrested. But we haven't seen anything remotely like those numbers arrested, indeed when we have seen 500,000 peace marchers turn up we haven't even seen 100 people arrested. Do you know why this is? It's because the peace marchers have no interest in attacking the police. Anyhow, are you going to condemn the police horse being attacked today? Yes, it's disgusting and he's rightly arrested. When you say peace protest why do lots dress in Hamas garb ? Why chants about obliterating Israel ? Why damage property and monuments ? I bet you also defended the BLM protest marches ? Thanks for answering the question knype, I genuinely will come back and answer yours but I've just had my tea put on the table. 👍
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Post by foster on Apr 23, 2024 19:16:40 GMT
I don't see an example of two tier policing. What I see, is people who have been asked to march in a particular area attempting to ignore the instructions of the police and go somewhere else, if they HAD have stayed in the area that had been agreed with the organisers, then it's perfectly reasonable to assume, that the trouble wouldn't have even started in the first place. When Tommy Robinson and a thousand of his mates rucked up in November, 100 of them got arrested and a number of police were put in hospital. Now there have been numerous peace marches where 500,000 people have turned up and using the same percentages that would have resulted in 50,000 people being arrested. But we haven't seen anything remotely like those numbers arrested, indeed when we have seen 500,000 peace marchers turn up we haven't even seen 100 people arrested. Do you know why this is? It's because the peace marchers have no interest in attacking the police. Anyhow, are you going to condemn the police horse being attacked today? The only thing you’ve done there is give an example of two tier policing isn’t it? There was plenty of violence going on in those so called peace marches and the coppers were told to turn a blind eye. This time they’ve been told to arrest anyone with the temerity to sport, shock horror, a face covering. Does the same apply to the thousands of Muslims with face coverings? I think not. The prick that slapped the horse should and I’m sure will be charged with animal cruelty at the very least Not sure what this one incident has to do with St George's day as a whole? Just the typical wanker deflection tactics. Not you Badge.... even though, you are actually, a wanker.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Apr 23, 2024 19:20:19 GMT
I’d better check in on Big Nige, I bet he’s celebrating with a pint or two I'm a remainer and I've lived less in the UK than most on here (20 years), but this disloyalty to your home country really pisses me off. Respect for your country is a minimum. I've got no time for any fuckers who bitch and moan about what is, overall (politics aside), a great country. It's that shit people are paying and dying to get here, and using the legal system to fight tooth and nail to stay. It's quite clearly an awful place populated by awful people.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 23, 2024 19:20:43 GMT
The only thing you’ve done there is give an example of two tier policing isn’t it? There was plenty of violence going on in those so called peace marches and the coppers were told to turn a blind eye. This time they’ve been told to arrest anyone with the temerity to sport, shock horror, a face covering. Does the same apply to the thousands of Muslims with face coverings? I think not. The prick that slapped the horse should and I’m sure will be charged with animal cruelty at the very least Not sure what this one incident has to do with St George's day as a whole? Just the typical wanker deflection tactics. Not you Badge.... even though, you are actually, a wanker. I certainly am, and I’ve got the medals to prove it!😉
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