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Post by hancockscfc on May 8, 2024 7:13:30 GMT
It's now water under the bridge so no real need to keep discussing it. The manager got away with it and we stayed up. Hopefully he's learned from the situation and we all move on. What's important now is our recruitment this summer and beyond. There is also a Schumacher Verdict thread where the same folks are arguing about the same topics in parallel š
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Post by baconburger on May 8, 2024 7:15:03 GMT
It's now water under the bridge so no real need to keep discussing it. The manager got away with it and we stayed up. Hopefully he's learned from the situation and we all move on. What's important now is our recruitment this summer and beyond. Discussing what the way the club handled the player? I think the future of the player should be a topic. If Mmaee is the mainstay of our forward line next season weāll be set for another disappointing campaign imo.
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Post by theonlooker on May 8, 2024 7:16:53 GMT
It's now water under the bridge so no real need to keep discussing it. The manager got away with it and we stayed up. Hopefully he's learned from the situation and we all move on. What's important now is our recruitment this summer and beyond. Discussing what the way the club handled the player? I think the future of the player should be a topic. If Mmaee is the mainstay of our forward line next season weāll be set for another disappointing campaign imo. Who would be your ideal, realistic forward in this league?
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Post by premieraj on May 8, 2024 7:18:56 GMT
Would we try for the chap from Fulham who was on loan at Brum?
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Post by baconburger on May 8, 2024 7:26:04 GMT
Discussing what the way the club handled the player? I think the future of the player should be a topic. If Mmaee is the mainstay of our forward line next season weāll be set for another disappointing campaign imo. Who would be your ideal, realistic forward in this league? Iād like to see us back in for BTA. Like the lad Conway at BC but they donāt sell their prospects on the cheap. Iād want a physical aggressive CF with a bit of nasty about him but not some slow immobile unit, one who chips in with goals. For me thatās a pen picture of BTA but Iām far less concerned with names than attributes someone Iāve never heard of would be fine. Just tell Jared to find the polar opposite of Ryan Mmaee.
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Post by baconburger on May 8, 2024 7:28:13 GMT
Would we try for the chap from Fulham who was on loan at Brum? Could well be a Schu type. Decent finisher a bit small and lightweight for my liking but he does have a rep for liking smaller more technical players.
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Post by gingerninja on May 8, 2024 7:29:22 GMT
Jay Stansfield I think is the one we will go for, relatively quick and mobile.
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Post by hcstokie on May 8, 2024 7:29:36 GMT
36 pages of chat and about 3 posts relating to an actual transfer. Just grown men arguing with each other instead! Welcome to the Oatcake! Iām just surprised nobody has mentioned the Tories yet.
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Post by stokefanone on May 8, 2024 7:31:20 GMT
What a load of rubbish, you canāt have people doing what they want in any team. Iāve been a manager myself for years and you need to earn some and standards need to be met and everyone must be committed. It would have helped the whole team with what the manager did Mate I simply think the extent of it all was grossly exaggerated and a bit OTT. Iām not saying it goes unpunished. I just didnāt see the value in dropping him so quickly when he was looking at his best in a Stoke shirt and his replacement was nowhere near the same standard. All because he had an ego problem. If you donāt understand how someone with an inflated ego can affect the other members of a team, you do not understand the dynamics of team spirit and how important it is to success in sport. SS did a brilliant job in stamping his authority on the team and it became evident in the final half a dozen games.
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Post by hd51 on May 8, 2024 7:47:02 GMT
So a manager bins a first team player off to show power, leadership and earn respect? Yeh, Iām sure thatās what managers do to achieve thatā¦ Usual delusional ābellenderyā. Just spamming this board. Yes See the below. And thereās more examples of it. Fans seems to believe every word a manager says and donāt trust the players. The tweet sums it up perfectly. Yeah to be fair a scouse twitter account commenting on man united's problems is a great unbiased opinion
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Post by etebojan on May 8, 2024 7:48:45 GMT
Jay Stansfield I think is the one we will go for, relatively quick and mobile. am i imagining it or did we try for him last summer or in Jan, feel like we've been in mix before?, he'd be great
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Post by apb1 on May 8, 2024 7:49:12 GMT
Mmaee is quite good I think, seemed to grow used to the physical nature of the league. However he's been a naughty boy and/or injured a lot. If we keep him I won't be gutted but we definitely need at least one striker who could get around Jacob Brown 21-22 season levels of goalscoring, ideally being a slightly better technical player with it.
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Post by baconburger on May 8, 2024 8:03:09 GMT
Mmaee is quite good I think, seemed to grow used to the physical nature of the league. However he's been a naughty boy and/or injured a lot. If we keep him I won't be gutted but we definitely need at least one striker who could get around Jacob Brown 21-22 season levels of goalscoring, ideally being a slightly better technical player with it. Naah sorry the opposite. If he was a beast and banging them in Iām afraid the management would have to put up with him being a naughty boy but he just isnāt. Heās a Fanny with low energy and aggression with a few fancy flicks.
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Post by mamathestriker on May 8, 2024 8:48:01 GMT
Whole I'm delighted at how we ended the season, we've still finished in our lowest league placing for 20 years I think I read.
We need 6 or 7 new first teamers.
I hope if we re sign Hoever and Cundle they're both season long loans.
Hopefully Iverson returns permanently.
McNally I think could improve with an experienced CB alongside him, Connor Coady maybe?
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Post by J-Roar on May 8, 2024 8:48:19 GMT
36 pages of chat and about 3 posts relating to an actual transfer. Just grown men arguing with each other instead! Grown men is stretching it!
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Post by wagsastokie on May 8, 2024 8:57:29 GMT
36 pages of chat and about 3 posts relating to an actual transfer. Just grown men arguing with each other instead! Grown men is stretching it! Iāll have you know Iām as tall as Iāll ever get
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Post by FullerMagic on May 8, 2024 9:01:29 GMT
Jay Stansfield I think is the one we will go for, relatively quick and mobile. am i imagining it or did we try for him last summer or in Jan, feel like we've been in mix before?, he'd be great A journo close to Brum said we were interested in hijacking his Brum loan in Jan. And Schuey was seen talking to him on the pitch after we beat them on Boxing Day. He got all their player of the year awards, but there seems to have been some debate about how much of a No.9 in a 4-3-3 he could be. Looks to have loads of potential though. I think he'd be too expensive to get permanently.
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Post by PotteringThrough on May 8, 2024 9:03:44 GMT
I wouldnāt be surprised if Ipswich went back in for him.
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Post by apb1 on May 8, 2024 9:09:23 GMT
Mmaee is quite good I think, seemed to grow used to the physical nature of the league. However he's been a naughty boy and/or injured a lot. If we keep him I won't be gutted but we definitely need at least one striker who could get around Jacob Brown 21-22 season levels of goalscoring, ideally being a slightly better technical player with it. Naah sorry the opposite. If he was a beast and banging them in Iām afraid the management would have to put up with him being a naughty boy but he just isnāt. Heās a Fanny with low energy and aggression with a few fancy flicks. He seemed to get better at being less of a fanny was my point. As in he improved a bit post-lategate. Fair enough if you disagree of course, and I think we need better, but you only have to look at Manhoef, who was pretty irrelevant in his early appearances, to see how a player can progress. Having a focal point attacker is key though I think - if we get it right both Junho and Million will thrive cutting in from flanks.
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Post by LGH87 on May 8, 2024 9:09:29 GMT
He got all their player of the year awards, but there seems to have been some debate about how much of a No.9 in a 4-3-3 he could be. Looks to have loads of potential though. I think he'd be too expensive to get permanently. How did Brum use him?
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Post by apb1 on May 8, 2024 9:11:52 GMT
He got all their player of the year awards, but there seems to have been some debate about how much of a No.9 in a 4-3-3 he could be. Looks to have loads of potential though. I think he'd be too expensive to get permanently. How did Brum use him? Mainly to score against us.
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Post by LGH87 on May 8, 2024 9:13:11 GMT
The issue with Ryan Mmaee is he will never resemble a dog chasing a balloon, therefore there's a large section of our fanbase who simply won't have him.
They tend to be the same fans that think Bae is weak, Arnie was lazy & N'Zonzi was idle.
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Post by knype on May 8, 2024 9:16:02 GMT
The issue with Ryan Mmaee is he will never resemble a dog chasing a balloon, therefore there's a large section of our fanbase who simply won't have him. They tend to be the same fans that think Bae is weak, Arnie was lazy & N'Zonzi was idle. Nail on head! The same ones think Thompson is a god!
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Post by FullerMagic on May 8, 2024 9:22:59 GMT
He got all their player of the year awards, but there seems to have been some debate about how much of a No.9 in a 4-3-3 he could be. Looks to have loads of potential though. I think he'd be too expensive to get permanently. How did Brum use him? Mixed bag I think, with some time wide and deeper - But mostly as the main striker. linklink
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Post by skip on May 8, 2024 9:28:00 GMT
am i imagining it or did we try for him last summer or in Jan, feel like we've been in mix before?, he'd be great A journo close to Brum said we were interested in hijacking his Brum loan in Jan. And Schuey was seen talking to him on the pitch after we beat them on Boxing Day. He got all their player of the year awards, but there seems to have been some debate about how much of a No.9 in a 4-3-3 he could be. Looks to have loads of potential though. I think he'd be too expensive to get permanently. Is his nickname The Swan, and if not why not? (It's a neck thing).
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Post by LGH87 on May 8, 2024 9:30:03 GMT
Mixed bag I think, with some time wide and deeper - But mostly as the main striker. linklinkHmmmm I'm not convinced he's what we need although it's getting to the point where I'm not sure what type of striker we need anymore
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Post by Clem Fandango on May 8, 2024 9:40:53 GMT
Mixed bag I think, with some time wide and deeper - But mostly as the main striker. linklinkHmmmm I'm not convinced he's what we need although it's getting to the point where I'm not sure what type of striker we need anymore Yeah I keep saying this myself. I think we've had every shape, size and style of striker imaginable some with pedigree in this league, other leagues or none at all and we've struggled. Most of the time though my thoughts are that we dont or haven't created enough chances for strikers. So many games in the last x number of years we've had games where most the team is immobile or static with plenty of fans then blaming the striker and suggesting they get dropped. Personally I think Mmaee would have got a couple in the last few games given how the team has played.
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Post by datguy on May 8, 2024 9:52:22 GMT
Mate I simply think the extent of it all was grossly exaggerated and a bit OTT. Iām not saying it goes unpunished. I just didnāt see the value in dropping him so quickly when he was looking at his best in a Stoke shirt and his replacement was nowhere near the same standard. All because he had an ego problem. If you donāt understand how someone with an inflated ego can affect the other members of a team, you do not understand the dynamics of team spirit and how important it is to success in sport. SS did a brilliant job in stamping his authority on the team and it became evident in the final half a dozen games. Listen mate, I refer you to the post you're quoting. Axing the lad to the U23s for months whilst trying to hound the lad out to the doldrums of European football on deadline day is - in my grossly uninformed opinion apparently - an overreaction and unfair on the lad. All in the name of team spirit. I'd half believe you if the team didn't conveniently nosedive towards relegation after Schumacher threw his toys out the pram at Sunderland HT.
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Post by yellowsnowman on May 8, 2024 9:54:44 GMT
We cnt hang our hat on Mmaee, fuck that. Think he will stay and contribute next year but id prefer some one with the right attitude and want to improve as a footballer. If he leaves then oh well. Done himself no favours really.
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Post by datguy on May 8, 2024 9:58:50 GMT
We cnt hang our hat on Mmaee, fuck that. Think he will stay and contribute next year but id prefer some one with the right attitude and want to improve as a footballer. If he leaves then oh well. Done himself no favours really. As it stands though he is the best option. Ennis seems as likeable as they come but the man is nothing more than a League 1 footballer as it stands. Bring a striker in by all means but lets not right off a lad that's played Champions League football and his record elsewhere be very good.
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