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Post by mickstupp on May 7, 2024 19:47:09 GMT
The irony here being you have the brass neck to accuse fans of having no standards, and then demonstrate no standards yourself by wanting us to simply sweep the Mmaee issue under the carpet. The blokes an arsehole, and he’s demonstrated it several times in the past at his previous clubs. I don’t think there was an issue. There clearly was otherwise why take him out of the squad? For shits and giggles?
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 7, 2024 19:51:19 GMT
I don’t think there was an issue. There clearly was otherwise why take him out of the squad? For shits and giggles? A power play. Managers do it all the time for not a particularly good reason. See Sancho at Man Yoo.
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Post by datguy on May 7, 2024 19:53:06 GMT
I’m not saying Mmaee saved us from relegation, but our upturn in form did coincide with him returning to the team and Schumacher realising we’ve got some attacking talent and our downturn in form coincided with Mmaee being axed to the U23s.
Good player. Shouldn’t have been axed. He might’ve been an arsehole but the whole thing could’ve been dealt with so much better.
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Post by datguy on May 7, 2024 19:56:35 GMT
There clearly was otherwise why take him out of the squad? For shits and giggles? A power play. Managers do it all the time for not a particularly good reason. See Sancho at Man Yoo. Power play, maybe. I just think it’s the first time in Schumacher’s whole career he’s come up against an ego like Mmaee - ex-Champo League egotistical prick who walks about the place either miserable or smug - and he’s well and truly shat the bed and axed him because that’s his instinctive lower league solution. Hughes was probably so good at dealing with egos because he’d been in dressing rooms all across Europe with similar sorts. Was poor management imo. Shouldn’t have been axed.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 7, 2024 19:56:55 GMT
I’m not saying Mmaee saved us from relegation, but our upturn in form did coincide with him returning to the team and Schumacher realising we’ve got some attacking talent and our downturn in form coincided with Mmaee being axed to the U23s. Good player. Shouldn’t have been axed. He might’ve been an arsehole but the whole thing could’ve been dealt with so much better. Shouldn’t have been axed🤣🤷♂️So one arsehole does what he wants at the expense of the other players🤔I’ve never read such rubbish
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Post by datguy on May 7, 2024 20:00:03 GMT
I’m not saying Mmaee saved us from relegation, but our upturn in form did coincide with him returning to the team and Schumacher realising we’ve got some attacking talent and our downturn in form coincided with Mmaee being axed to the U23s. Good player. Shouldn’t have been axed. He might’ve been an arsehole but the whole thing could’ve been dealt with so much better. Shouldn’t have been axed🤣🤷♂️So one arsehole does what he wants at the expense of the other players🤔I’ve never read such rubbish And there we are. Part of the problem with Schuey’s dealing with Mmaee is that no one actually knows what he’s done wrong apart from it being heavily insinuated what’s in the media. Which was he’d turned up late to training a few times and gave it back to the manager at half time vs Sunderland. If what he did was so bad why was he back into the team?
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Post by FullerMagic on May 7, 2024 20:00:20 GMT
There clearly was otherwise why take him out of the squad? For shits and giggles? A power play. Managers do it all the time for not a particularly good reason. See Sancho at Man Yoo. Schumacher was pretty clear he was being a persistent bellend. The bellendery came before the transfer listing, not the other way around "He wasn't being a good team-mate, showing the respect for the staff or his team-mates that they deserved" "Until it changes , and it's over to him, he'll have to prove in his behaviour, to me and everyone else that he's willing to be part of this club and part of this team"
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Post by lordb on May 7, 2024 20:00:57 GMT
I’m not saying Mmaee saved us from relegation, but our upturn in form did coincide with him returning to the team and Schumacher realising we’ve got some attacking talent and our downturn in form coincided with Mmaee being axed to the U23s. Good player. Shouldn’t have been axed. He might’ve been an arsehole but the whole thing could’ve been dealt with so much better. Shouldn’t have been axed🤣🤷♂️So one arsehole does what he wants at the expense of the other players🤔I’ve never read such rubbish Especially as after Mmaee had been dropped a: the rest of the squad showed more togetherness and B: Once Mmaee showed some humility and knuckled down he came back and played his best games away at Hull and v Albion at home when he was excellent Excellent management
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 7, 2024 20:01:09 GMT
Shouldn’t have been axed🤣🤷♂️So one arsehole does what he wants at the expense of the other players🤔I’ve never read such rubbish And there we are. Part of the problem with Schuey’s dealing with Mmaee is that no one actually knows what he’s done wrong apart from it being heavily insinuated what’s in the media. Which was he’d turned up late to training a few times and gave it back to the manager at half time vs Sunderland. If what he did was so bad why was he back into the team? Maybe because he realised he needed to change his ways🤔just a thought like
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Post by collo68 on May 7, 2024 20:01:19 GMT
A power play. Managers do it all the time for not a particularly good reason. See Sancho at Man Yoo. Power play, maybe. I just think it’s the first time in Schumacher’s whole career he’s come up against an ego like Mmaee - ex-Champo League egotistical prick who walks about the place either miserable or smug - and he’s well and truly shat the bed and axed him because that’s his instinctive lower league solution. Hughes was probably so good at dealing with egos because he’d been in dressing rooms all across Europe with similar sorts. Was poor management imo. Shouldn’t have been axed. What a load of rubbish, you can’t have people doing what they want in any team. I’ve been a manager myself for years and you need to earn some and standards need to be met and everyone must be committed. It would have helped the whole team with what the manager did
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 7, 2024 20:02:06 GMT
A power play. Managers do it all the time for not a particularly good reason. See Sancho at Man Yoo. Schumacher was pretty clear he was being a persistent bellend. The bellendery came before the transfer listing, not the other way around "He wasn't being a good team-mate, showing the respect for the staff or his team-mates that they deserved" "Until it changes , and it's over to him, he'll have to prove in his behaviour, to me and everyone else that he's willing to be part of this club and part of this team" He would say that. It’s a total power play.
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Post by werrington on May 7, 2024 20:04:51 GMT
Schumacher was pretty clear he was being a persistent bellend. The bellendery came before the transfer listing, not the other way around "He wasn't being a good team-mate, showing the respect for the staff or his team-mates that they deserved" "Until it changes , and it's over to him, he'll have to prove in his behaviour, to me and everyone else that he's willing to be part of this club and part of this team" He would say that. It’s a total power play. Here you go again
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Post by datguy on May 7, 2024 20:05:08 GMT
Power play, maybe. I just think it’s the first time in Schumacher’s whole career he’s come up against an ego like Mmaee - ex-Champo League egotistical prick who walks about the place either miserable or smug - and he’s well and truly shat the bed and axed him because that’s his instinctive lower league solution. Hughes was probably so good at dealing with egos because he’d been in dressing rooms all across Europe with similar sorts. Was poor management imo. Shouldn’t have been axed. What a load of rubbish, you can’t have people doing what they want in any team. I’ve been a manager myself for years and you need to earn some and standards need to be met and everyone must be committed. It would have helped the whole team with what the manager did Mate I simply think the extent of it all was grossly exaggerated and a bit OTT. I’m not saying it goes unpunished. I just didn’t see the value in dropping him so quickly when he was looking at his best in a Stoke shirt and his replacement was nowhere near the same standard. All because he had an ego problem.
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Post by collo68 on May 7, 2024 20:07:09 GMT
What a load of rubbish, you can’t have people doing what they want in any team. I’ve been a manager myself for years and you need to earn some and standards need to be met and everyone must be committed. It would have helped the whole team with what the manager did Mate I simply think the extent of it all was grossly exaggerated and a bit OTT. I’m not saying it goes unpunished. I just didn’t see the value in dropping him so quickly when he was looking at his best in a Stoke shirt and his replacement was nowhere near the same standard. All because he had an ego problem. I guess none of us will know but it was a brave call as I agree with you that’s he’s the best forward we have by a country mile so that’s what makes me think it needed doing. Anyway it worked out ok for us all in the end
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 7, 2024 20:11:55 GMT
He would say that. It’s a total power play. Here you go again So you don’t think Ten Hag was making it up re Sancho? They do it you know. And why? To show power. To prove a point. And I get why they do tbh.
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Post by hughjarse on May 7, 2024 20:12:32 GMT
What a load of rubbish, you can’t have people doing what they want in any team. I’ve been a manager myself for years and you need to earn some and standards need to be met and everyone must be committed. It would have helped the whole team with what the manager did Mate I simply think the extent of it all was grossly exaggerated and a bit OTT. I’m not saying it goes unpunished. I just didn’t see the value in dropping him so quickly when he was looking at his best in a Stoke shirt and his replacement was nowhere near the same standard. All because he had an ego problem. Ryan Mmaee stepped out of line and was left out of the first team picture for a few weeks as a result. He was then brought back in and seemingly had a different attitude. For me that is excellent man management
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Post by george2again on May 8, 2024 0:22:10 GMT
Mate I simply think the extent of it all was grossly exaggerated and a bit OTT. I’m not saying it goes unpunished. I just didn’t see the value in dropping him so quickly when he was looking at his best in a Stoke shirt and his replacement was nowhere near the same standard. All because he had an ego problem. Ryan Mmaee stepped out of line and was left out of the first team picture for a few weeks as a result. He was then brought back in and seemingly had a different attitude. For me that is excellent man management You’re also missing another point that even Mmaee is an upgrade on Ennis. Mmaee is slow and lazy and not a footballer who will not flourish in the English leagues. I’d be happy with him and Ennis both extradited out of the club by any means.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on May 8, 2024 4:30:21 GMT
I thought I'd clicked on the transfer thread.... 😁
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Post by bassmaster on May 8, 2024 5:44:26 GMT
So a manager bins a first team player off to show power, leadership and earn respect? Yeh, I’m sure that’s what managers do to achieve that…
Usual delusional ‘bellendery’. Just spamming this board.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2024 5:51:55 GMT
So a manager bins a first team player off to show power, leadership and earn respect? Yeh, I’m sure that’s what managers do to achieve that… Usual delusional ‘bellendery’. Just spamming this board. Yes See the below. And there’s more examples of it. Fans seems to believe every word a manager says and don’t trust the players. The tweet sums it up perfectly.
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Post by werrington on May 8, 2024 6:14:29 GMT
So a manager bins a first team player off to show power, leadership and earn respect? Yeh, I’m sure that’s what managers do to achieve that… Usual delusional ‘bellendery’. Just spamming this board. Yes See the below. And there’s more examples of it. Fans seems to believe every word a manager says and don’t trust the players. The tweet sums it up perfectly. So why did Wouter Burger come out and agree with the manager?
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2024 6:17:47 GMT
Yes See the below. And there’s more examples of it. Fans seems to believe every word a manager says and don’t trust the players. The tweet sums it up perfectly. So why did Wouter Burger come out and agree with the manager? Why would you go against the manager? You wouldn’t. The managers word is final and they know the fans will back that especially when you have a fanbase like ours obsessed with running.
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Post by baconburger on May 8, 2024 6:24:48 GMT
The irony here being you have the brass neck to accuse fans of having no standards, and then demonstrate no standards yourself by wanting us to simply sweep the Mmaee issue under the carpet. The blokes an arsehole, and he’s demonstrated it several times in the past at his previous clubs. I don’t think there was an issue. There was a massive issue with him being shit. I thought you were sick of that.
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Post by werrington on May 8, 2024 6:28:03 GMT
So why did Wouter Burger come out and agree with the manager? Why would you go against the manager? You wouldn’t. The managers word is final and they know the fans will back that especially when you have a fanbase like ours obsessed with running. He wasn’t asked about anything after Sunderland he chose to air it You’re off again making shit up if you keep repeating a lie it eventually becomes the truth
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Post by baconburger on May 8, 2024 6:34:59 GMT
Ryan Mmaee stepped out of line and was left out of the first team picture for a few weeks as a result. He was then brought back in and seemingly had a different attitude. For me that is excellent man management You’re also missing another point that even Mmaee is an upgrade on Ennis. Mmaee is slow and lazy and not a footballer who will not flourish in the English leagues. I’d be happy with him and Ennis both extradited out of the club by any means. Ennis just isn’t very good at least he’s got the energy and aggression that Mmaee lacks. If you want a physical forward you need an understudy Ennis is ok for that you’re not going to attract much better for a role on your bench. I’d be happy enough for him to stay provided he’s down the pecking order. Like you I can’t see Mmaee ever flourishing in the English game, if we can get a fee I’d cut my losses on him.
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Post by hancockscfc on May 8, 2024 7:01:45 GMT
36 pages of chat and about 3 posts relating to an actual transfer.
Just grown men arguing with each other instead!
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Post by baconburger on May 8, 2024 7:03:42 GMT
36 pages of chat and about 3 posts relating to an actual transfer. Just grown men arguing with each other instead! What do you mean 3 posts there are 4.
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Post by theonlooker on May 8, 2024 7:06:01 GMT
It's now water under the bridge so no real need to keep discussing it. The manager got away with it and we stayed up. Hopefully he's learned from the situation and we all move on.
What's important now is our recruitment this summer and beyond.
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Post by nonameface on May 8, 2024 7:08:37 GMT
36 pages of chat and about 3 posts relating to an actual transfer. Just grown men arguing with each other instead! what's your problem? 🎣
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Post by s7oke on May 8, 2024 7:09:12 GMT
I’ve heard that we are going to sign a player before the start of next season How’s that for a prediction Or was that the voices in my head talking It couldn’t have been could it Yes it could No it couldn’t Yes it ….. As much sense as anything else on this thread 😁👍
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