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Post by insect on Apr 18, 2024 8:27:19 GMT
You can’t believe people won’t pay to have a shit anxious day out? Why? Because that’s what fans of big clubs do. Like Sheffield Wednesday did last week. We’re not a big club. There’s the problem.
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Post by ChesterStokie on Apr 18, 2024 8:27:37 GMT
Because that’s what fans of big clubs do. Like Sheffield Wednesday did last week. Brum - new ground announced and return of a manager they like Sheff Weds - new manager they like and that has changed them Stoke - can’t be arsed to pay for a players surgery Stoke - new manager they like and that has changed them
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Post by mistergumby on Apr 18, 2024 8:28:23 GMT
Can't speak for anyone else but I have no inclination whatsoever to part with approx £100 of my hard earned to watch that festering pile of shite of a 'team', a collection of posers, losers and has beens impersonating professional footballers in a building reminiscent of a Soviet era prison, whilst surrounded by assorted chavs, drunks and morons. This wildly unpredictable weather doesn't make the endless hike to the Trentham Lakes Lubyjanka much more palatable either. Does that help answer your question? You're welcome.
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 18, 2024 8:35:50 GMT
Because that’s what fans of big clubs do. Like Sheffield Wednesday did last week. We’re not a big club. There’s the problem. I think you’re right
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Post by Eggybread on Apr 18, 2024 8:36:26 GMT
Can't speak for anyone else but I have no inclination whatsoever to part with approx £100 of my hard earned to watch that festering pile of shite of a 'team', a collection of posers, losers and has beens impersonating professional footballers in a building reminiscent of a Soviet era prison, whilst surrounded by assorted chavs, drunks and morons. This wildly unpredictable weather doesn't make the endless hike to the Trentham Lakes Lubyjanka much more palatable either. Does that help answer your question? You're welcome. So you never go the games anyway,only when we are winning,the weathers great,everyone is sober,no working class youths and in a modernised pro western stadium .
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 18, 2024 8:37:05 GMT
Can't speak for anyone else but I have no inclination whatsoever to part with approx £100 of my hard earned to watch that festering pile of shite of a 'team', a collection of posers, losers and has beens impersonating professional footballers in a building reminiscent of a Soviet era prison, whilst surrounded by assorted chavs, drunks and morons. This wildly unpredictable weather doesn't make the endless hike to the Trentham Lakes Lubyjanka much more palatable either. Does that help answer your question? You're welcome. Get yourself off up the Vale then 😉
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 18, 2024 8:37:29 GMT
Brum - new ground announced and return of a manager they like Sheff Weds - new manager they like and that has changed them Stoke - can’t be arsed to pay for a players surgery Stoke - new manager they like and that has changed them 🤣nah
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 18, 2024 8:52:06 GMT
Because that’s what fans of big clubs do. Like Sheffield Wednesday did last week. Brum - new ground announced and return of a manager they like Sheff Weds - new manager they like and that has changed them Stoke - can’t be arsed to pay for a players surgery Both in the bottom 4 Sheff Weds couldn't be bothered to pay their players twice Not very good at this point scoring lark are we? We are 'nailed on' to go down of course
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Apr 18, 2024 8:53:14 GMT
Can't speak for anyone else but I have no inclination whatsoever to part with approx £100 of my hard earned to watch that festering pile of shite of a 'team', a collection of posers, losers and has beens impersonating professional footballers in a building reminiscent of a Soviet era prison, whilst surrounded by assorted chavs, drunks and morons. This wildly unpredictable weather doesn't make the endless hike to the Trentham Lakes Lubyjanka much more palatable either. Does that help answer your question? You're welcome. Of course you don't have to part with your hard earned if you don't want to your choice of course. But what i will say is if we ever get back to the big time (unlikely but i thought that when it happened last time) Then stay away keep your hard earned as the same gulag will be there with the same chavs and drunks etc etc. Even the weather will still be unpredictable. Things are bad but the club needs support in the here and now, or as someone above says you can fook off up the vale 😉
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Post by theonlooker on Apr 18, 2024 9:11:03 GMT
Can't speak for anyone else but I have no inclination whatsoever to part with approx £100 of my hard earned to watch that festering pile of shite of a 'team', a collection of posers, losers and has beens impersonating professional footballers in a building reminiscent of a Soviet era prison, whilst surrounded by assorted chavs, drunks and morons. This wildly unpredictable weather doesn't make the endless hike to the Trentham Lakes Lubyjanka much more palatable either. Does that help answer your question? You're welcome. Of course you don't have to part with your hard earned if you don't want to your choice of course. But what i will say is if we ever get back to the big time (unlikely but i thought that when it happened last time) Then stay away keep your hard earned as the same gulag will be there with the same chavs and drunks etc etc. Even the weather will still be unpredictable. Things are bad but the club needs support in the here and now, or as someone above says you can fook off up the vale 😉 I think it was satire and you've just been knocked to the boundary for an old fashioned 6, or alternatively it's double satire and I'll get back into my box...
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Post by karl on Apr 18, 2024 9:47:29 GMT
Should have given them the whole of the stand and moved people just for the one game.
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Post by mistergumby on Apr 18, 2024 9:53:20 GMT
Can't speak for anyone else but I have no inclination whatsoever to part with approx £100 of my hard earned to watch that festering pile of shite of a 'team', a collection of posers, losers and has beens impersonating professional footballers in a building reminiscent of a Soviet era prison, whilst surrounded by assorted chavs, drunks and morons. This wildly unpredictable weather doesn't make the endless hike to the Trentham Lakes Lubyjanka much more palatable either. Does that help answer your question? You're welcome. So you never go the games anyway,only when we are winning,the weathers great,everyone is sober,no working class youths and in a modernised pro western stadium . I'm going to get accused of entering into a dick measuring contest here but I would suggest I've earned the right to justify my irregular attendance when questioned on the subject. I've been to enough games (home and away) since February 1970 to feel I have an opinion that's valid and worth expressing here. I think my best attendance record for a season is 50+ games during the Macari years in the old Division 3. Attended every home game in the 84/5 'Holocaust' season and was one of the hardy 4,500 who turned up at the Vic to see us lose to Norwich. Nearly lost my job by going to watch a pre season friendly at Witton Albion. So I certainly wasn't the fair weather supporter you might be suggesting. I've done my time. Paid my dues etc, etc. A good part of the reason for my stance is most probably because I've gotten older and like many of my age, I've found more productive things to do with my time and additionally, I don't have the energy and inclination that I once did to tackle the potential conflict, inconvenience and hassles involved in attending the games regularly - and that's before the overhyped, overpaid bunch of talent free fannies currently purporting to represent Stoke City take the pitch, which worsens my mood aplenty and is a further deterrent to attendance. It wasn't always the case. During the tenures of Messrs Ball, Paddon, Bates and Kamara (and others), the team was shite, the results dire and the football dreadful. But that wasn't the be all and end all of the whole match day experience, which was generally pleasurable to some degree, usually due to factors other than the game itself. That feeling has now has pretty much completely died for me - and apparently a good number of others, as can be seen on another thread where posters were discussing what they had been enjoying on Saturday afternoons instead of pitching up at the Betty. What would I do if, by some miracle, the club started to enjoy some success? Very likely the same as I do now, picking and choosing games or getting reluctantly dragged along by friends or family members. Watching Stoke was a habit for me once. That habit is now broken, I fear.
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Post by mistergumby on Apr 18, 2024 9:56:23 GMT
Can't speak for anyone else but I have no inclination whatsoever to part with approx £100 of my hard earned to watch that festering pile of shite of a 'team', a collection of posers, losers and has beens impersonating professional footballers in a building reminiscent of a Soviet era prison, whilst surrounded by assorted chavs, drunks and morons. This wildly unpredictable weather doesn't make the endless hike to the Trentham Lakes Lubyjanka much more palatable either. Does that help answer your question? You're welcome. Get yourself off up the Vale then 😉 I've been to watch the Vale approx 200 times over the years. My Vale mate Rob says it's currently even worse than Stoke - through gritted teeth of course.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 18, 2024 10:00:03 GMT
Brum - new ground announced and return of a manager they like Sheff Weds - new manager they like and that has changed them Stoke - can’t be arsed to pay for a players surgery Both in the bottom 4 Sheff Weds couldn't be bothered to pay their players twice Not very good at this point scoring lark are we? We are 'nailed on' to go down of course But they have a great feeling around their manager. Who has said we’re nailed on to go down? I certainly haven’t. We should beat Plymouth easily for me.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Apr 18, 2024 10:01:41 GMT
I'm a ST holder so I'll be there but, if I wasn't, I'd like to think for a game of such importance, I'd be bothering my arse to get there if I could afford it. Our more recent home form and performances have been better, barring the Norwich debacle and Huddersfield first half. If West Brom is anything to go by, we should hopefully get a good performance. The Middlesbrough and QPR wins at home have shown that we can turn up when it matters but if people are fed up by it, I guess they can't be blamed.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 18, 2024 10:04:22 GMT
Both in the bottom 4 Sheff Weds couldn't be bothered to pay their players twice Not very good at this point scoring lark are we? We are 'nailed on' to go down of course But they have a great feeling around their manager. Who has said we’re nailed on to go down? I certainly haven’t. We should beat Plymouth easily for me. A great feeling 😁😁😁 Credit for trying
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Post by spoton on Apr 18, 2024 10:09:09 GMT
It’s not though is it. There’s not a good feeling around this club. You talk to people that don’t go and they have no intention of going any time soon. There’s no buzz. There’s nothing to look forward to. It’s a trudge. Of course that isn’t irrelevant. It’s an irrelevant comparison because you’re comparing us to two of very few clubs who are actually worse than us at the moment. Their fans have packed out their stadiums for crunch relegation matches and yet ours don’t seem arsed. Maybe we just aren’t a big club 🤷♂️ we have never been a big club and never will be
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 18, 2024 10:16:46 GMT
All these teams that are packing out home games in a relegation battle yet no team in the bottom half has a higher home gate than us.
Odd that
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Apr 18, 2024 10:16:52 GMT
The club are of course in a no win situation here, if they drop the price then it sets of a chain of events. .. People who have ST's or even bought tickets a few weeks before will be pissed off.
.. Would encourage future attendees to maybe wait till a last minute price drop, then simply not bother.
I been lucky to get a cheap ticket for myself for Plymouth, but will pay full price for the lad...
Looking forward to it.
Would I have gone if I didnt get the cheap one...Prob not..
Will 100% be there for Brizzle City though, regardless...
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Post by stantheman on Apr 18, 2024 10:25:35 GMT
Like they were for AN when he got a couple of results with the same old sand they song for the previous idiot etc. It means little. Wednesday fans believe in their manager. They have a belief. There’s nothing here. It’s flat. And yet they still sit in the relegation zone. He’s been there since October. It’s an irrelevance. We never, ever sung for AN like we sung for SS on Saturday. I can only presume you rarely attend. The last bit is correct
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Apr 18, 2024 10:26:50 GMT
There's no point turning on the support, which seems to be a trait of stoke fans who seem to be unable to bear each other.
It's a simple money issue. The cheap tickets has brought in excellent crowds when it's been offered this season, at a club that has one of the worst home records in the country spanning several seasons
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Post by pmjh on Apr 18, 2024 10:27:57 GMT
It’s an irrelevant comparison because you’re comparing us to two of very few clubs who are actually worse than us at the moment. Their fans have packed out their stadiums for crunch relegation matches and yet ours don’t seem arsed. Maybe we just aren’t a big club 🤷♂️ we have never been a big club and never will be Not the old ' big club' argument again. If you measure by attendances alone then it's fairly easy to measure' as long as you compare clubs in similar league positions at similar times. However it's not just attendances that matter it's finance. More money gives you the opportunity to sign better players. At this moment in time Brentford and Burnley are 'bigger' clubs than Leeds and Sheffield Wednesday, next season they may not be. When Stoke came down they were the biggest club in the division.They did not make the most of that position.Within the constraints of FFP we can still Outspend most of the division, apart from those on parachute payments.
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 18, 2024 10:37:58 GMT
It’s an irrelevant comparison because you’re comparing us to two of very few clubs who are actually worse than us at the moment. Their fans have packed out their stadiums for crunch relegation matches and yet ours don’t seem arsed. Maybe we just aren’t a big club 🤷♂️ we have never been a big club and never will be Worth remembering the next time people moan and complain about our fall from the Premier League.
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Post by Eggybread on Apr 18, 2024 11:11:19 GMT
So you never go the games anyway,only when we are winning,the weathers great,everyone is sober,no working class youths and in a modernised pro western stadium . I'm going to get accused of entering into a dick measuring contest here but I would suggest I've earned the right to justify my irregular attendance when questioned on the subject. I've been to enough games (home and away) since February 1970 to feel I have an opinion that's valid and worth expressing here. I think my best attendance record for a season is 50+ games during the Macari years in the old Division 3. Attended every home game in the 84/5 'Holocaust' season and was one of the hardy 4,500 who turned up at the Vic to see us lose to Norwich. Nearly lost my job by going to watch a pre season friendly at Witton Albion. So I certainly wasn't the fair weather supporter you might be suggesting. I've done my time. Paid my dues etc, etc. A good part of the reason for my stance is most probably because I've gotten older and like many of my age, I've found more productive things to do with my time and additionally, I don't have the energy and inclination that I once did to tackle the potential conflict, inconvenience and hassles involved in attending the games regularly - and that's before the overhyped, overpaid bunch of talent free fannies currently purporting to represent Stoke City take the pitch, which worsens my mood aplenty and is a further deterrent to attendance. It wasn't always the case. During the tenures of Messrs Ball, Paddon, Bates and Kamara (and others), the team was shite, the results dire and the football dreadful. But that wasn't the be all and end all of the whole match day experience, which was generally pleasurable to some degree, usually due to factors other than the game itself. That feeling has now has pretty much completely died for me - and apparently a good number of others, as can be seen on another thread where posters were discussing what they had been enjoying on Saturday afternoons instead of pitching up at the Betty. What would I do if, by some miracle, the club started to enjoy some success? Very likely the same as I do now, picking and choosing games or getting reluctantly dragged along by friends or family members. Watching Stoke was a habit for me once. That habit is now broken, I fear. You didnt say any of that in your original post ,you just slated all and sundry even our fans (which I also do).I am also of a similar age and yes I get where you are coming from.I will be making an effort this Saturday because the club I love need me there,or at least I hope they do.
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 18, 2024 11:58:29 GMT
I’ve just gone onto the web site and taken a look at availability. It looks very similar to a standard league game, so at the moment it’s around 22k. Let’s hope for a big push over the next 48 hours.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 18, 2024 12:01:31 GMT
And yet they still sit in the relegation zone. He’s been there since October. It’s an irrelevance. We never, ever sung for AN like we sung for SS on Saturday. I can only presume you rarely attend. The last bit is correct Is it fuck. I've had a season ticket since 2005/6 Idiot. And the barmy army has been sung nauseatingly for all of the previous managers. Totally undeserved too like it is for Schumacher.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 18, 2024 12:29:12 GMT
As a band once sung “Excuses have their uses but they’re all used up,all used up” Stoke City supporters attend on Saturday if they can for a game of that magnitude WHATEVER has gone before
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Post by femark on Apr 18, 2024 13:02:48 GMT
More and more fans will stop turning up if they're subjected to the shite that we have been for the last 6/7 years. Before we got promoted to the prem we were averaging around 16k and it wont be long until we are again.
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Post by lordb on Apr 18, 2024 13:05:06 GMT
As a band once sung “Excuses have their uses but they’re all used up,all used up” Stoke City supporters attend on Saturday if they can for a game of that magnitude WHATEVER has gone before Tunnel of Love?
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Post by Ron on Apr 18, 2024 13:14:01 GMT
We are over the course of the last few year arguably the worst team at home in the country. That takes some doing. Going to home games with zero anticipation of a win is soul destroying. Kids are more used to seeing the away end cheering than the home. They'll get fed up of going.
The reason for the empty seats is the embarrassingly poor performance of those on the pitch.
We were getting 10k regular pre promotion- to be getting 20k regular when were are:
-frankly, an awful football team
-run by incompetent idiots off it
- a city with a low income
-in a cost of living crisis
- nowhere near as big a club as some fans think we are
is, in my view, demonstrative of the loyalty of many of our fans.
That said - the club could have easily credited the accounts of those who had purchased tickets at the original price and offered £5 tickets across the board to fill the place.
Fact is- we're shit. That why people are not there.
if we go down it has been a product of the last 6/7 years, not the fans not turning up.
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