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Post by felonious on Mar 20, 2024 19:21:08 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 20, 2024 19:39:14 GMT
State of this country
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 20, 2024 21:14:06 GMT
Absolutely. Who are these snowflakes who want to complain about everything even though it doesn’t make the slightest bit of difference to their lives?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 20, 2024 21:27:39 GMT
Absolutely. Who are these snowflakes who want to complain about everything even though it doesn’t make the slightest bit of difference to their lives? I knew you’d pipe up and I refuse to get locked into a two week debate on it. It shouldn’t be there and it’s been taken down. That’s good for once. As for not affecting lives it will affect yours and mine if it carries on at this pace for the rest of our lives. If you’re happy to have religious beliefs forced upon you then that’s fine but I certainly won’t
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Post by salopstick on Mar 20, 2024 21:30:53 GMT
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 20, 2024 21:31:00 GMT
Absolutely. Who are these snowflakes who want to complain about everything even though it doesn’t make the slightest bit of difference to their lives? I knew you’d pipe up and I refuse to get locked into a two week debate on it. It shouldn’t be there and it’s been taken down. That’s good for once. As for not affecting lives it will affect yours and mine if it carries on at this pace for the rest of our lives. If you’re happy to have religious beliefs forced upon you then that’s fine but I certainly won’t In the same way I don’t feel obliged to read a bible in a hotel room or listen to preachers on the street, I would ignore religious messaging at train stations and go about my day. I certainly don’t think there has been an increase in religious messages in public places so I don’t agree it is carrying on at pace. Or oerhaps I just ignore them and don’t notice them. It doesn’t affect me in the slightest.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 20, 2024 21:42:47 GMT
I knew you’d pipe up and I refuse to get locked into a two week debate on it. It shouldn’t be there and it’s been taken down. That’s good for once. As for not affecting lives it will affect yours and mine if it carries on at this pace for the rest of our lives. If you’re happy to have religious beliefs forced upon you then that’s fine but I certainly won’t In the same way I don’t feel obliged to read a bible in a hotel room or listen to preachers on the street, I would ignore religious messaging at train stations and go about my day. I certainly don’t think there has been an increase in religious messages in public places so I don’t agree it is carrying on at pace. Or oerhaps I just ignore them and don’t notice them. It doesn’t affect me in the slightest. That’s a typical lefty answer. “Just ignore it, it doesn’t affect you”. It will do down the line. And when you finally realise it it’ll be too late. Enjoy your evening
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Post by iancransonsknees on Mar 20, 2024 22:02:03 GMT
Just makes me think of Chrith Eubank.
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Post by 4372 on Mar 20, 2024 22:09:01 GMT
I remember a year or two back. An old lady died, and they printed that news on bus tickets round here.
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Post by wannabee on Mar 20, 2024 22:16:18 GMT
Kings Cross Station previously displayed celebratory messages during Easter, Christmas, Passover and Diwali without complaints It seems only Muslim Holy Festivals are what people object to
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Post by cvillestokie on Mar 21, 2024 0:00:51 GMT
“We will be writing to the transport secretary to outline our concerns” 😂. Snow’s gotta flake.
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Post by wannabee on Mar 21, 2024 2:05:28 GMT
“We will be writing to the transport secretary to outline our concerns” 😂. Snow’s gotta flake. A rather farcical and hypocritical position Humanists who reject the concept of God object to a Specific Religion having an alternative viewpoint..... where is the self awareness? In common with many Humanists I'm Agnostic but I'm certainly not Humanist
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 21, 2024 7:20:13 GMT
In the same way I don’t feel obliged to read a bible in a hotel room or listen to preachers on the street, I would ignore religious messaging at train stations and go about my day. I certainly don’t think there has been an increase in religious messages in public places so I don’t agree it is carrying on at pace. Or oerhaps I just ignore them and don’t notice them. It doesn’t affect me in the slightest. That’s a typical lefty answer. “Just ignore it, it doesn’t affect you”. It will do down the line. And when you finally realise it it’ll be too late. Enjoy your evening What do you mean by “it’ll be too late”? What are you afraid of?
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Post by felonious on Mar 21, 2024 7:48:04 GMT
Lovely spot and thankfully no religious signage as I run past it........
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Post by felonious on Mar 21, 2024 7:51:29 GMT
Kings Cross Station previously displayed celebratory messages during Easter, Christmas, Passover and Diwali without complaints It seems only Muslim Holy Festivals are what people object to Out of interest were those messages about sinners . I suspect it's the message that's caused the issue not the religion.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 21, 2024 10:04:39 GMT
That’s a typical lefty answer. “Just ignore it, it doesn’t affect you”. It will do down the line. And when you finally realise it it’ll be too late. Enjoy your evening What do you mean by “it’ll be too late”? What are you afraid of? Ask that teacher and his 4 kids from Bately how they're getting on.
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 21, 2024 10:29:48 GMT
What do you mean by “it’ll be too late”? What are you afraid of? Ask that teacher and his 4 kids from Bately how they're getting on. I may have missed something, but tell me how a message at a train station for religious festivals (across multiple religions because that is what the station does at the appropriate time of year) relates to a teacher who received death threats for showing pupils a cartoon picture of Muhammad?
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 21, 2024 10:32:14 GMT
Kings Cross Station previously displayed celebratory messages during Easter, Christmas, Passover and Diwali without complaints It seems only Muslim Holy Festivals are what people object to Out of interest were those messages about sinners . I suspect it's the message that's caused the issue not the religion. Catholicism goes on endlessly about repenting sins. It is a common theme of some religions. Unless you (or those who complained) felt guilt about something I just don’t understand the issue about it? “Remember at this time that Jesus died on the cross for you all - Happy Christmas” i bet nobody would complain about that.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 21, 2024 10:50:56 GMT
Ask that teacher and his 4 kids from Bately how they're getting on. I may have missed something, but tell me how a message at a train station for religious festivals (across multiple religions because that is what the station does at the appropriate time of year) relates to a teacher who received death threats for showing pupils a cartoon picture of Muhammad? Remind me the last time a teacher and his family went into hiding for teaching/discussing another religion in this country. Then ask yourself where the bible is banned. Do we ban the Quaran in this country? The Muslim faith has a very big problem with its radicals. To ignore it is frankly ignorant in my opinion... Happy Xmas, happy Eid, happy Hanukkah happy whatever is fine. But they can ALL stick their preaching where the sun don't shine as far as I'm concerned. Major transport hub information boards is not the place for religious and ideological preaching.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 21, 2024 10:59:08 GMT
Absolutely. Who are these snowflakes who want to complain about everything even though it doesn’t make the slightest bit of difference to their lives? You say it doesn't make a difference to people's lives, but I was at Kings Cross on the day in question and I got so confused by this message that I missed my 13:57 train to Mecca. State of this country.
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Post by salopstick on Mar 21, 2024 11:16:27 GMT
The issue wasnt a generic happy ramadan message. which would be ok. same as happy christmas etc
more the tone and message and tbh the complaints are valid regardless of the religion involved
I would accept a happy easter message but not the crucifaxtion story etc
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 21, 2024 11:44:35 GMT
I may have missed something, but tell me how a message at a train station for religious festivals (across multiple religions because that is what the station does at the appropriate time of year) relates to a teacher who received death threats for showing pupils a cartoon picture of Muhammad? Remind me the last time a teacher and his family went into hiding for teaching/discussing another religion in this country. Then ask yourself where the bible is banned. Do we ban the Quaran in this country? The Muslim faith has a very big problem with its radicals. To ignore it is frankly ignorant in my opinion... Happy Xmas, happy Eid, happy Hanukkah happy whatever is fine. But they can ALL stick their preaching where the sun don't shine as far as I'm concerned. Major transport hub information boards is not the place for religious and ideological preaching. Sorry, I still don’t understand the link. I can fully understand people objecting to all religious messaging in public if that is what you think. France has very strict rules on religious symbols for example. What I object to is people linking a religious quote about sinners at a train station to people receiving death threats. Religious radicals are problematic for multiple religions. Netanyahu is a good example. As are Christian fundamentalists in the US. There is lots of evidence of Hindu and Sikh extremism too. There are indeed lots of examples of Islamic fundamentalism also. But that is so, so, so far removed from a message at a train station during a religious festival.
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 21, 2024 11:45:27 GMT
Absolutely. Who are these snowflakes who want to complain about everything even though it doesn’t make the slightest bit of difference to their lives? You say it doesn't make a difference to people's lives, but I was at Kings Cross on the day in question and I got so confused by this message that I missed my 13:57 train to Mecca. State of this country. Surely just keep walking in the direction you were praying.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 21, 2024 11:55:41 GMT
Ask that teacher and his 4 kids from Bately how they're getting on. I may have missed something, but tell me how a message at a train station for religious festivals (across multiple religions because that is what the station does at the appropriate time of year) relates to a teacher who received death threats for showing pupils a cartoon picture of Muhammad? Haha. I think you may have missed something
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Post by dirtygary69 on Mar 21, 2024 11:58:09 GMT
Salam aleykoum, IMHO.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 21, 2024 11:59:43 GMT
Remind me the last time a teacher and his family went into hiding for teaching/discussing another religion in this country. Then ask yourself where the bible is banned. Do we ban the Quaran in this country? The Muslim faith has a very big problem with its radicals. To ignore it is frankly ignorant in my opinion... Happy Xmas, happy Eid, happy Hanukkah happy whatever is fine. But they can ALL stick their preaching where the sun don't shine as far as I'm concerned. Major transport hub information boards is not the place for religious and ideological preaching. Sorry, I still don’t understand the link. I can fully understand people objecting to all religious messaging in public if that is what you think. France has very strict rules on religious symbols for example. What I object to is people linking a religious quote about sinners at a train station to people receiving death threats. Religious radicals are problematic for multiple religions. Netanyahu is a good example. As are Christian fundamentalists in the US. There is lots of evidence of Hindu and Sikh extremism too. There are indeed lots of examples of Islamic fundamentalism also. But that is so, so, so far removed from a message at a train station during a religious festival. So no example of another person having to go into hiding for saying or showing something about another religion? Thought so. How many other religions tell us in the UK that if we say the wrong thing or show the wrong thing we'll come for you and your family? Your obvious confusion is not understanding the detail of the message and it appearing on a major transport hub notice board. As I said happy this or that from any religion is fine and welcomed in our society. But they can all do one with religious and ideological clap trap. The question you should be asking is why has this message gone further than the usual. Look into that and you may resolve your confusion.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 21, 2024 11:59:44 GMT
“We will be writing to the transport secretary to outline our concerns” 😂. Snow’s gotta flake. A rather farcical and hypocritical position Humanists who reject the concept of God object to a Specific Religion having an alternative viewpoint..... where is the self awareness? In common with many Humanists I'm Agnostic but I'm certainly not Humanist What do you mean a “specific religion” and “an alternative viewpoint”? Humanists would generally object to any public religious messaging wouldn’t they
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Post by marylandstoke on Mar 21, 2024 12:02:40 GMT
Fair play to the Gideons.
The blank pages at the back are great for a good spliff if your out of papers.
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Post by marylandstoke on Mar 21, 2024 12:04:24 GMT
Are we in for him? Can he play left back? Sounds Turkish, and you know they don’t travel well outside their own league.
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Post by marylandstoke on Mar 21, 2024 12:06:19 GMT
But in the real world. wa alaikum assalam
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