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Post by bertiestan on Mar 12, 2024 10:44:11 GMT
I hate it when players can leave for nothing,how much has it cost clubs to get these young players to where they are now? yet get nothing back in return. Especially when they’ve shown next to nothing and spent half their time in the treatment table🤷🏼🔴⚪️
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Post by nottsover60 on Mar 12, 2024 11:50:11 GMT
Who was the last striker we had who was popular? Crouch??? 🤔 Was he for his football towards the end? I remember audible groans when he came on at 60 minutes and people saying that we'd settled for a draw or were just going to play hoof ball. I think Fuller was the last striker we truly appreciated.
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Post by jokker on Mar 12, 2024 11:51:08 GMT
I hate it when players can leave for nothing,how much has it cost clubs to get these young players to where they are now? yet get nothing back in return. It's hardly an isolated Campbell situation. Since Bosman changed the transfer and contract situation, players have freedom at the end of their contracts and some will take advantage of it, while others may dread it. It's up to the club to avoid this type of situation. They can either sell the player a year or more before the contract is up or they can extend the contract well ahead of the time it expires. If they don't they have no one but themselves to blame.
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Post by jokker on Mar 12, 2024 12:02:50 GMT
For me the test is, could we afford a better player than Campbell in the market? I don’t think we could. He would fetch more than any other forward we have and letting him go for nothing is a disaster. Campbell, Maaee and Million is comfortably our best 3 with Bae in behind I wouldn't rule it out that we could get a better player. We got unlucky with Mmaee, although it didn't look that way at first. There's plenty more young players overseas who are willing to join an english club and they are a lot less expensive than younger english players, and are a lot more reliable, if we know how to treat them right . Perhaps we won't get a player that potentially can dazzle and run fast and score goals like Campbell could, but everything that he could remained potential - it never really happened or only happened for a short time when he was well protected and well fed - footballwise - by Fletcher and Powell.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 12, 2024 12:29:43 GMT
I was simply pointing out the apparent hypocrisy that it's ok to be continuously rude and disparaging about one player but not about another. I accept that there may appear to be double standards. I do think however there's a difference in the language used, in simply brandishing someone 'wank' etc, and in pointing out where and why someone appears to be showing a bad attitude. Ok mate. Hyperbole seems to be the order of the day on here no matter what the subject is. It's the way of social media generally I'm afraid. It's wank
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Mar 12, 2024 12:31:27 GMT
Was he for his football towards the end? I remember audible groans when he came on at 60 minutes and people saying that we'd settled for a draw or were just going to play hoof ball. I think Fuller was the last striker we truly appreciated. Yeah, I know what you mean re-Crouchy... Personally, I thought we were very lucky to have a player of his ability, not only to play for Stoke, but to have played more games for Stoke than any other team he's played for!!! As for Fuller, he'll forever be a hero to Stokies, and rightly so!!!
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Post by pavel on Mar 12, 2024 12:43:10 GMT
Campbell has been fine for us and his scoring record very reasonable considering his injury(s) and that he emerged during a time in our history when scoring goals seemed to be a lost art. He’s played under mostly mediocre managers and different styles of play that have not helped his development much at all.
I don’t buy into “he’s bone idle/ can’t be bothered” talk. I’ve seen him chase back to his own penalty area on many occasions and just recently to but he gets no praise for this. Does he do it all the time, no but he’s up front primarily to help us score.
He had a good game against Preston, gave us pace and an outlet and held the ball up reasonably well, which is not his forte.
Should he move on, yes probably, for his own good and because of the mostly unwarranted stick he gets. I would have liked to see how he would have developed under a manager like Schumacher but sadly that time has passed.
Good luck to him wherever he goes and I hope he progresses.
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Post by binthelplates on Mar 12, 2024 21:46:01 GMT
Campbell has been fine for us and his scoring record very reasonable considering his injury(s) and that he emerged during a time in our history when scoring goals seemed to be a lost art. He’s played under mostly mediocre managers and different styles of play that have not helped his development much at all. I don’t buy into “he’s bone idle/ can’t be bothered” talk. I’ve seen him chase back to his own penalty area on many occasions and just recently to but he gets no praise for this. Does he do it all the time, no but he’s up front primarily to help us score. He had a good game against Preston, gave us pace and an outlet and held the ball up reasonably well, which is not his forte. Should he move on, yes probably, for his own good and because of the mostly unwarranted stick he gets. I would have liked to see how he would have developed under a manager like Schumacher but sadly that time has passed. Good luck to him wherever he goes and I hope he progresses. Callum O’Hare of Coventry has come back from his ACL injury and scored 9 goals in 26 league/cup games. Since Campbell had his knee injury he’s scored 16 goals in total in 91 league/cup games, 9 last season in 43 games and 2 in 17 in all games this season. Just not good enough irrespective of injuries.
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Post by pavel on Mar 12, 2024 22:06:21 GMT
Campbell has been fine for us and his scoring record very reasonable considering his injury(s) and that he emerged during a time in our history when scoring goals seemed to be a lost art. He’s played under mostly mediocre managers and different styles of play that have not helped his development much at all. I don’t buy into “he’s bone idle/ can’t be bothered” talk. I’ve seen him chase back to his own penalty area on many occasions and just recently to but he gets no praise for this. Does he do it all the time, no but he’s up front primarily to help us score. He had a good game against Preston, gave us pace and an outlet and held the ball up reasonably well, which is not his forte. Should he move on, yes probably, for his own good and because of the mostly unwarranted stick he gets. I would have liked to see how he would have developed under a manager like Schumacher but sadly that time has passed. Good luck to him wherever he goes and I hope he progresses. Callum O’Hare of Coventry has come back from his ACL injury and scored 9 goals in 26 league/cup games. Since Campbell had his knee injury he’s scored 16 goals in total in 91 league/cup games, 9 last season in 43 games and 2 in 17 in all games this season. Just not good enough irrespective of injuries. If you look at the bigger picture Coventry score goals, almost twice as many as we. We haven’t have a player who’s scored a hatful since we’ve came down and that’s because we hardly create. Your example is just simplistic and flawed. Would O’Hare scored that many here or Campbell scored like O’Hare if he was at Coventry, we just don’t know. What we do know though is that Campbell has scored goals in a shambles of a team that has hardly created chances since we came down and is easily par for the course at this club.
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Post by retrostoke on Mar 12, 2024 22:16:00 GMT
Promised much. Delivered very little. No excuses. Stoke have been very patient with him
Needs a new challenge and a different attitude. Removing him from his Stoke comfort zone will make or break him.
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Post by greenhoff on Mar 13, 2024 7:13:28 GMT
Seems a good lad. Unfortunately never fulfilled his undoubted potential. Whether that’s because of desire or injury is open to debate. A move away would be beneficial to the club and Tyrese.
I hope he does well
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Post by idle on Mar 13, 2024 7:47:29 GMT
If you look at the bigger picture Coventry score goals, almost twice as many as we. We haven’t have a player who’s scored a hatful since we’ve came down and that’s because we hardly create. No, we create lots of chances, we just don't have anyone with killer instinct in the box to put them away. How many crosses go across the box every game we play? 10? 20? Hell, even Browns runs into the box gave us 10-ish goals a season, and he wasn't really a poacher. He had movement, and was best when finishing on instinct. Campbell doesn't have any of those traits. What we do know though is that Campbell has scored goals in a shambles of a team that has hardly created chances since we came down and is easily par for the course at this club. Campbell is really poor at getting into position for the chances we are creating. His movement is poor, and his anticipation of play is non-existant. I don't think I've ever seen him tap in a goal. Or a diving header. Or a blast into the net from 6 yards. He's better further out, making chances on his own or finishing placed shots from wierd angles just inside or outside the box. In my opinion, he's a decent forward (not a striker), but he's not the striker we need, and haven't been since MONs style of play. He doesn't fit Schueyball any more than Pearson does.
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Post by pavel on Mar 13, 2024 8:18:45 GMT
If you look at the bigger picture Coventry score goals, almost twice as many as we. We haven’t have a player who’s scored a hatful since we’ve came down and that’s because we hardly create. No, we create lots of chances, we just don't have anyone with killer instinct in the box to put them away. How many crosses go across the box every game we play? 10? 20? Hell, even Browns runs into the box gave us 10-ish goals a season, and he wasn't really a poacher. He had movement, and was best when finishing on instinct. Campbell doesn't have any of those traits. What we do know though is that Campbell has scored goals in a shambles of a team that has hardly created chances since we came down and is easily par for the course at this club. Campbell is really poor at getting into position for the chances we are creating. His movement is poor, and his anticipation of play is non-existant. I don't think I've ever seen him tap in a goal. Or a diving header. Or a blast into the net from 6 yards. He's better further out, making chances on his own or finishing placed shots from wierd angles just inside or outside the box. In my opinion, he's a decent forward (not a striker), but he's not the striker we need, and haven't been since MONs style of play. He doesn't fit Schueyball any more than Pearson does. You’re having a laugh aren’t you, seriously. We make few clear cut chances, balls across the box don’t automatically create chances and we know our crossing has been awful for years. Campbell makes plenty of runs and gets into positions but we’re just to slow to feed him in. We are making more chances now under Schumacher but how many games has Campbell played under him? Campbell is not a world beater but he’s been no worse than any other strikers we’ve had since we’ve come down and even now he’s more likely to score than any other forward we’ve got, though that does show up the paucity of our options. He will leave this summer and I wish him well, he’s not been the problem at Stoke, just a talisman for all the things that have gone wrong here and criticism that has been out of proportion.
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Post by idle on Mar 13, 2024 8:41:25 GMT
You’re having a laugh aren’t you, seriously. We make few clear cut chances, balls across the box don’t automatically create chances and we know our crossing has been awful for years. Campbell makes plenty of runs and gets into positions but we’re just to slow to feed him in. We are making more chances now under Schumacher but how many games has Campbell played under him? For crosses it takes two to tango. Is there a single player in the team that has the focus of a poacher when chances arrive? No. Not a single one. Not the strikers, not the wingers and not the midfielders. At least Rose gets on the ball for headers, he's just shit at heading... As for having a laugh, "Campbell makes plenty of runs and get into position"? That's the opposite of my view of him. He moves about, always wanting the ball to his feet, but never is in position. Not for tap-ins. Not for headers. Not for long shots. Not for a 45 degree pass from the byline, unless his back is to the goal and then needing to turn to finish. And he never ever lunges in to finish a chance like strikers are supposed to. It's like he has no instinct for scoring unless he can place it in the far corner. Fair point on the game time under Schumacher. Still didn't see him do any of the things above in the short time he's played. Of course, we are now using the "modified/practical" Schumacher tactics, so he won't be tested in true Schueyball as he'll move on in the summer. Campbell is not a world beater but he’s been no worse than any other strikers we’ve had since we’ve come down and even now he’s more likely to score than any other forward we’ve got, though that does show up the paucity of our options. He will leave this summer and I wish him well, he’s not been the problem at Stoke, just a talisman for all the things that have gone wrong here and criticism that has been out of proportion. In total agreement here. It's not his fault MON and AN didn't provide him with a proper partner up front.
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Post by a on Mar 16, 2024 17:20:03 GMT
Not good enough or not bothered enough?
Cya lad
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Post by DansViews on Mar 16, 2024 17:21:17 GMT
Not good enough or not bothered enough? Cya lad Ran around for 15 minutes and seem to be absolutely fucked / not interested.
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Post by dutchstokie on Mar 16, 2024 17:22:00 GMT
Not good enough or not bothered enough? Cya lad BOTH…
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Post by yellowsnowman on Mar 16, 2024 17:22:24 GMT
Can we stop picking him please. And pay him up what ever it is, to move him off the books. Please.
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Post by theonlooker on Mar 16, 2024 17:23:13 GMT
He doesn't pick himself and quite worrying is that this manager thought he was good at Preston.
Quite telling that the manager bins off Mmaee for not asking "how high?" when he's told to jump but will continually pick a player that not only can't play as a lone striker but one that is clearly off in a few weeks time.
Piss poor management.
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Post by andromeda on Mar 16, 2024 17:23:26 GMT
Not the only one. Every ‘striker’ we have could be done for fraud. Not a decent one amongst them.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Mar 16, 2024 17:24:56 GMT
Should never see him again imho.
Never has a player delivered so little when hes asked for and been given opportunities to play.
His heads not here and i wont shed a tear when he finally departs.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 16, 2024 17:29:00 GMT
Not good enough or not bothered enough? Cya lad Ran around for 15 minutes and seem to be absolutely fucked / not interested. He’s a sulker, huge problem
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Post by lordb on Mar 16, 2024 17:30:08 GMT
Thought he did OK last week Shocking today No press, no movement, no anything
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Post by yellowsnowman on Mar 16, 2024 17:30:35 GMT
Should never see him again imho. Never has a player delivered so little when hes asked for and been given opportunities to play. His heads not here and i wont shed a tear when he finally departs. Theres no reason to pick him anymore. Guttless, spineless wanker. Afew think Rangers bound...... fuck off, can you imagine him in the old firm derby! Laughable. He wouldnt come out the tunnel!
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Mar 16, 2024 17:30:55 GMT
I always stick up for him but I'd not bother picking him again. All the best Tye
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Post by BristolMick on Mar 16, 2024 17:32:36 GMT
And some joker has just rang praise & grumble lambasting the fans for getting on Campbell’s back. It’s like it’s all the fans fault he’s shit and doesn’t give a fuck and if it wasn’t for negative fans he’d be running around giving everything he’s got like his life depended upon it!
BM
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Post by greenhoff on Mar 16, 2024 17:34:34 GMT
And some joker has just rang praise & grumble lambasting the fans for getting on Campbell’s back. It’s like it’s all the fans fault he’s shit and doesn’t give a fuck and if it wasn’t for negative fans he’d be running around giving everything he’s got like his life depended upon it! BM It’s unbelievable. What do folk expect after such a bloody gutless performance? Abuse is wrong but ironic cheers…. do me a favour!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 16, 2024 17:35:35 GMT
Isolated. Not sure what the fuck he was meant to do really.
Everything today is on the manager.
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Post by sticky on Mar 16, 2024 17:38:18 GMT
How many goals have our strikers managed to score between them this season?
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Post by LphPotter on Mar 16, 2024 17:39:02 GMT
Isolated. Not sure what the fuck he was meant to do really. Everything today is on the manager. Ennis wasn’t isolated when he came on and still managed to be much worse than Campbell was
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