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Post by ethers26 on Mar 8, 2024 19:36:11 GMT
Just came up on the pre match on Sky
2nd to Leeds partnership
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Post by citynickscfc on Mar 8, 2024 19:36:32 GMT
Just came up on the pre match on Sky 2nd to Leeds partnership 😦 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Post by andystokey on Mar 8, 2024 19:39:25 GMT
Are they drunk?
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Post by ethers26 on Mar 8, 2024 19:44:13 GMT
Should have added it was a stats table 😂
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Post by Gods on Mar 8, 2024 19:45:02 GMT
Despite rumours to the contrary our defence is not as bad as our attack!
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 8, 2024 19:53:44 GMT
I think it’s best to just watch the game and not base things on statistics. That said, where on earth have the statistics come from to come to this conclusion?
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Post by andystokey on Mar 8, 2024 20:10:08 GMT
I think it’s best to just watch the game and not base things on statistics. That said, where on earth have the statistics come from to come to this conclusion? Otherwise you might believe Josh Laurent is one of the two best midfield players in the world. In 0.7sec bursts.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 8, 2024 20:13:03 GMT
I think it’s best to just watch the game and not base things on statistics. That said, where on earth have the statistics come from to come to this conclusion? Otherwise you might believe Josh Laurent is one of the two best midfield players in the world. Or that Harry Kane makes teams worse
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Post by tuum on Mar 8, 2024 20:13:28 GMT
Just came up on the pre match on Sky 2nd to Leeds partnership 😦 Seems that Bayern has been proved right then?
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Post by nonameface on Mar 8, 2024 20:15:13 GMT
Despite rumours to the contrary our defence is not as bad as our attack! 😂 🎣🎣
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Post by Northy on Mar 8, 2024 20:18:24 GMT
Despite rumours to the contrary our defence is not as bad as our attack! It wasn't until Wilmot came back, we were 8th I think in the least conceded, despite the changes of formation and personnel.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 8, 2024 20:19:43 GMT
Just came up on the pre match on Sky 2nd to Leeds partnership 😦 Then they realised they were reading the table upside down
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 8, 2024 20:21:19 GMT
Despite rumours to the contrary our defence is not as bad as our attack! It wasn't until Wilmot came back, we were 8th I think in the least conceded, despite the changes of formation and personnel. They’re all crap let’s be honest. Whoever came up with this is insane
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 8, 2024 20:22:38 GMT
We’ve got results with them and look the best when they play as a pair.
I really do think it’s been obvious.
They make daft mistakes which I think blinds people on it.
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Post by sneydgreenstokie1 on Mar 8, 2024 20:32:42 GMT
We’ve got results with them and look the best when they play as a pair. I really do think it’s been obvious. They make daft mistakes which I think blinds people on it. What, like giv8ng goals away??? Yep, that will certainly shape someone's view
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 8, 2024 20:38:35 GMT
We’ve got results with them and look the best when they play as a pair. I really do think it’s been obvious. They make daft mistakes which I think blinds people on it. What, like giv8ng goals away??? Yep, that will certainly shape someone's view But it doesn’t happen that often. They’ve generally played well together and we’ve generally got results with them. Clean sheets in about half the games they’ve played together? Everything suggests they’re a good partnership.
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Post by citynickscfc on Mar 8, 2024 20:40:41 GMT
What, like giv8ng goals away??? Yep, that will certainly shape someone's view But it doesn’t happen that often. They’ve generally played well together and we’ve generally got results with them. Clean sheets in about half the games they’ve played together? Everything suggests they’re a good partnership. I would definitely play them both instead of Wilmott. I don't rate him at all. Needs to improve dramatically and bulk up or he will fade into obscurity.
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Post by Picasso on Mar 8, 2024 20:46:35 GMT
I think that the Rose McNally partnership is ok. I don’t have anything against Wilmot either.
Some of our Midfield choices have contributed to defensive frailties, but saying that, our goals conceded see us around mid-table (we’ve only conceded two more than second placed Ipswich)…. Not saying it’s good, just ok.
Goals for, as we all know, is the problem. That stat sees us in the bottom 3 🙁
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Post by stokest5 on Mar 8, 2024 20:48:11 GMT
2nd best for what? Clangers?
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Post by ethers26 on Mar 8, 2024 20:55:26 GMT
We’ve got results with them and look the best when they play as a pair. I really do think it’s been obvious. They make daft mistakes which I think blinds people on it. They're relatively poor, but we're definitely worse with Wilmot. He can't even deal with straight hopeful balls to the forward.
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Post by datguy on Mar 8, 2024 20:56:42 GMT
Surprise surprise, the Championship is wank …
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Post by jm on Mar 8, 2024 21:09:29 GMT
They play really well as a pair considering their age. Wilmot won't be playing once McNally is fit again
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Post by blackpoolred on Mar 8, 2024 21:32:18 GMT
They are ok at this level and McNally has been improving - both have blunders in them on occasions - those occasions mainly being on match days That said, you can't fault their commitment, they never go missing and both have had some great games for us, and they were building a bit of a partnership together - and let's face it we have been a bit short of numbers/quality when it comes to defenders to the left and right of them(that's if we have a defender and not a square peg)
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Mar 8, 2024 21:35:08 GMT
The defence hasn't been great but the big issue is the attack. Tomorrow we'll be fielding a front line with about 20 career goals amongst the lot of them
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Post by hcstokie on Mar 8, 2024 22:43:30 GMT
They play really well as a pair considering their age. Wilmot won't be playing once McNally is fit again Rose is 28!
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Post by LGH87 on Mar 9, 2024 0:02:46 GMT
The defence hasn't been great but the big issue is the attack. Tomorrow we'll be fielding a front line with about 20 career goals amongst the lot of them It’s not said enough about the way we recruited in the summer, we put together an attack that just has no goals in it historically and expected it to start scoring freely. Was never happening.
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Post by matelot1996 on Mar 9, 2024 2:05:28 GMT
Sky Sports Breaking News…….. Turns of Tv…….. Idiots 😂😂
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Post by onionman on Mar 9, 2024 3:45:39 GMT
McNally and Rose are the fucking Chucklebrothers. Ben Wilmot is even worse though. He’s a Chuckle Hound.
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Post by headsgoup on Mar 9, 2024 7:39:26 GMT
There's a difference between McNally and Rose under Neil and under Schumacher as well.
If we'd been playing under SS all season, this would not be the case.
I also think our inability to score hurts us more, though.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Mar 9, 2024 8:21:00 GMT
There are two distinct aspects to a statistic:
1 The measurement itself. So for example if the defence stats is based on goals conceded per minutes on the the pitch and the figures have been collected consistently and accurately the results are simply true - they are an accurate measure of what actually happened. If anyone thinks their personal subjective observations are better than the properly compiled objective stats they are an ego maniac with no understanding of selection bias.
2 How the stats are interpreted. So for example McNally and Rose might well have the second best stats for goal conceded per minutes together on the pitch but that doesn't mean they are the second best defensive partnership in the league - for example it might mean they just happened to be on the pitch when we played weaker teams.
Coach's use stats to help them understand what is happening on the pitch - they don't just take them at face value. People who just reject stats out of hand and rely on their own subjective judgement will be wrong more often than someone who understands the value and limits of statistics and use them to supplement their subjective judgements.
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