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Post by nigelkeyercoker on Feb 27, 2024 20:56:36 GMT
Right, I want to preface this post by professing my admiration for the Coates's as people, not owners, PEOPLE.
Let's put it this way, we have everything we need to be a successful club. Money, fanbase, a recent decade in the prem, the list goes on. On paper you'd expect us to be top end of Championship/Low Premiership, however on grass we're somewhere closer to the backstreets of Beirut. Absolutely nowhere and getting worse fast.
What has caused this? you may ask. Well, buckle aboard the rollercoatser of shambolic decisions.
Good organisations have great leaders, average organisations have average leaders and awful organisations have John Coates and the gang. We're ran by clowns, good intentioned ones albeit, but clowns nevertheless. Let's look at it this way, if you know nothing about a subject, it's hard to know whether or not you are being bullshitted. How can someone who knows nothing about football be responsible for appointing senior decision makers at a football club? It's ike Mother Teresa running Divas Delight. The Coates clan just don't have the expertise required to pick the right people. With them it's been one calamity of a decision after another.
"Only bad decisions? No, you're being harsh, the Coates's have been great for the club!!" You may think.....
Yes, they may well have our best interests at heart, but they made one good decision EVER, and that was appointing Sir Tony Pulis. Pulis, was a manager. Though, he wasn't just the manager, he was the manager, the CEO, the boss, the naked headbutter, the everything. He ran the club from top to bottom. I don't believe there was single thing that was done at the club without the authorisation of Don Pulis. When asked what he wanted his next job title to be, I remember him saying something along lines of 'I don't give a monkeys if i'm the head coach, the dinner lady or the manager, as long as I make the decisions and get full autonomy to do so'. Too right Tony. How much we miss you.
Not only did he make the decisions, he led. Under him our players were not just players, they were heroes, professionals, true representatives of our great city. Players would die for the shirt and often give up time for local charities. Walters, Delap, Whelan, Huth, Shawcross, you name 'em - the list goes on! Pulis did not accept anything less than 100% from any member of Stoke City Football Club - and it showed! We were technically the worst team in the Premier league when we went up and yet we survived based on grit, desire, determination and the loudest fans in the country. We were loud because we were given something to cheer about!
Anyway, as much as i'd like it to be, this isn't a Pulis apprecation post.
"Pulis was good, I'll give you that, but he wasn't the only good decision made by the Coates's. What were all these other bad decisions you speak of?" I hear you scream.
Well, let me start with Nan hair, the only one man in football who can burn money quicker than Charlie Sheen in Vegas, the man who gives accountants nightmares and could reduce Martin Lewis to tears just by looking at him. Mark Hughes. And what did the Coates's do with him? Did they limit his spending? Give him a small budget? No, they bankrolled him and gave him a blank check! He signed countless prima donnas on massive contracts that caused our descent into a state of chaotic ruin. Granted, we played some great football under Hughes, some of the best i've ever seen - we weren't called Stokealona for nothing. However, his appointment was the cause of this sorry state that we still find ourselves in now.
After Hughes, I thought the club had exceeded its awful decision limit, alas, it had not. John: 'Peter! Hiring Hughes was an awful decision, we've royally fucked our recruitment, how can we top that?' Peter: 'Could just hire a Jacamo model. A random short one. Preferably with ZERO playing experience.'
John: 'Say no more.'
In struts Cartwright, a man with zero experience in football except a one season stint in goal for the Black Lion. And the club decided to appoint him as head of recruitment - terrific. How did that end? You know the story.
You'd think i'd be finished now - but miraculously I'm not.
Onto the next bad decision, the legend in his own lunchtime, the self-proclaimed second coming of Christ, the Blaenrhondda Benitez; Nathan Jones. That's right, we appointed the biggest pillock in football to run our club, fitting. I mean, Come on?! How on earth did he get the job? It's not as if he's even convincing, you can tell he's talking shite as soon as his lips start moving. He might as well have Charlatan tattooed on his forehead. Anyway, I don't need to explain how his appointment went. The man did nothing except beat his chest like an angry caveman, concede lots of goals and admire the smell of his own farts. He left us for dead.
But, there was light at the end of the tunnel and it came in the form of St Michael [O'Neill]. What a man, he showed character, tactical nouse and kept us up when we looked destined for League One. He managed all this with both hands tied behind his back due to FFP - he worked miracles! But what did the club do? Like, surely, by now we've reached the peak of imbecilic decision making and hindsight would come to save us. Don't make me laugh! The Coates's took it upon themselves to sack him. But no, not just a normal sacking, no, that wouldn't be stupid enough. Sacking him would be a mere 1/10 on the stupidity scale! Why make just a bad decision when you can make an unjustifiably catastrophic one? Go hard or go home. The Coates's took it upon themselves to wait until O Neill had had a full pre season with his squad, before promptly sacking him a few games into the season. If Carlsberg did fuck ups....
What does the future hold for us? Does anyone see any other outcome than relegation?
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Feb 27, 2024 21:01:52 GMT
Right, I want to preface this post by professing my admiration for the Coates's as people, not owners, PEOPLE. Let's put it this way, we have everything we need to be a successful club. Money, fanbase, a recent decade in the prem, the list goes on. On paper you'd expect us to be top end of Championship/Low Premiership, however on grass we're somewhere closer to the backstreets of Beirut. Absolutely nowhere and getting worse fast. What has caused this? you may ask. Well, buckle aboard the rollercoatser of shambolic decisions. Good organisations have great leaders, average organisations have average leaders and awful organisations have John Coates and the gang. We're ran by clowns, good intentioned ones albeit, but clowns nevertheless. Let's look at it this way, if you know nothing about a subject, it's hard to know whether or not you are being bullshitted. How can someone who knows nothing about football be responsible for appointing senior decision makers at a football club? It's ike Mother Teresa running Divas Delight. The Coates clan just don't have the expertise required to pick the right people. With them it's been one calamity of a decision after another. "Only bad decisions? No, you're being harsh, the Coates's have been great for the club!!" You may think..... Yes, they may well have our best interests at heart, but they made one good decision EVER, and that was appointing Sir Tony Pulis. Pulis, was a manager. Though, he wasn't just the manager, he was the manager, the CEO, the boss, the naked headbutter, the everything. He ran the club from top to bottom. I don't believe there was single thing that was done at the club without the authorisation of Don Pulis. When asked what he wanted his next job title to be, I remember him saying something along lines of 'I don't give a monkeys if i'm the head coach, the dinner lady or the manager, as long as I make the decisions and get full autonomy to do so'. Too right Tony. How much we miss you. Not only did he make the decisions, he led. Under him our players were not just players, they were heroes, professionals, true representatives of our great city. Players would die for the shirt and often give up time for local charities. Walters, Delap, Whelan, Huth, Shawcross, you name 'em - the list goes on! Pulis did not accept anything less than 100% from any member of Stoke City Football Club - and it showed! We were technically the worst team in the Premier league when we went up and yet we survived based on grit, desire, determination and the loudest fans in the country. We were loud because we were given something to cheer about! Anyway, as much as i'd like it to be, this isn't a Pulis apprecation post. "Pulis was good, I'll give you that, but he wasn't the only good decision made by the Coates's. What were all these other bad decisions you speak of?" I hear you scream. Well, let me start with Nan hair, the only one man in football who can burn money quicker than Charlie Sheen in Vegas, the man who gives accountants nightmares and could reduce Martin Lewis to tears just by looking at him. Mark Hughes. And what did the Coates's do with him? Did they limit his spending? Give him a small budget? No, they bankrolled him and gave him a blank check! He signed countless prima donnas on massive contracts that caused our descent into a state of chaotic ruin. Granted, we played some great football under Hughes, some of the best i've ever seen - we weren't called Stokealona for nothing. However, his appointment was the cause of this sorry state that we still find ourselves in now. After Hughes, I thought the club had exceeded its awful decision limit, alas, it had not. John: 'Peter! Hiring Hughes was an awful decision, we've royally fucked our recruitment, how can we top that?' Peter: 'Could just hire a Jacamo model. A random short one. Preferably with ZERO playing experience.' John: 'Say no more.' In struts Cartwright, a man with zero experience in football except a one season stint in goal for the Black Lion. And the club decided to appoint him as head of recruitment - terrific. How did that end? You know the story. You'd think i'd be finished now - but miraculously I'm not. Onto the next bad decision, the legend in his own lunchtime, the self-proclaimed second coming of Christ, the Blaenrhondda Benitez; Nathan Jones. That's right, we appointed the biggest pillock in football to run our club, fitting. I mean, Come on?! How on earth did he get the job? It's not as if he's even convincing, you can tell he's talking shite as soon as his lips start moving. He might as well have Charlatan tattooed on his forehead. Anyway, I don't need to explain how his appointment went. The man did nothing except beat his chest like an angry caveman, concede lots of goals and admire the smell of his own farts. He left us for dead. But, there was light at the end of the tunnel and it came in the form of St Michael [O'Neill]. What a man, he showed character, tactical nouse and kept us up when we looked destined for League One. He managed all this with both hands tied behind his back due to FFP - he worked miracles! But what did the club do? Like, surely, by now we've reached the peak of imbecilic decision making and hindsight would come to save us. Don't make me laugh! The Coates's took it upon themselves to sack him. But no, not just a normal sacking, no, that wouldn't be stupid enough. Sacking him would be a mere 1/10 on the stupidity scale! Why make just a bad decision when you can make an unjustifiably catastrophic one? Go hard or go home. The Coates's took it upon themselves to wait until O Neill had had a full pre season with his squad, before promptly sacking him a few games into the season. If Carlsberg did fuck ups.... Anyway, I could go on about bad decisions like the appointment of Schumacher or having a latin pop star as head of recruitment only to sack him rather sharply. But I cannot. I cannot go on anymore. I recently bought some pins from Screwfix and I'm about to stick them in my eyes. Over and out. See you all in League One. You either care enough to write that or just like the sound of your own voice. I’m unsure which it is.
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Post by nigelkeyercoker on Feb 27, 2024 21:04:14 GMT
You either care enough to write that or just like the sound of your own voice. I’m unsure which it is. I mean I obviously care or I'd not have written it. But my point stands, 10 years or so of bad decisions of compounded and I see no other outcome except us going down. And I say that as someone who's fairly positive usually.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Feb 27, 2024 21:05:34 GMT
You missed Rowett.
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Post by nigelkeyercoker on Feb 27, 2024 21:08:03 GMT
Yup. Hughes in disguise but with worse football. Ruined us as well.
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Post by vicarious on Feb 27, 2024 21:08:56 GMT
I remember the time when there was a fireworks display, in the village....it was quite frightening, bang, crash, wishoo, fizz...how they actually do that, anyway…<style type="text/css"></style><style type="text/css">#ad1{display:none !important;}[id^="ad-"], #remove_ads_link{display:none !important;}</style>
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Post by pushon on Feb 27, 2024 21:39:07 GMT
Right, I want to preface this post by professing my admiration for the Coates's as people, not owners, PEOPLE. Let's put it this way, we have everything we need to be a successful club. Money, fanbase, a recent decade in the prem, the list goes on. On paper you'd expect us to be top end of Championship/Low Premiership, however on grass we're somewhere closer to the backstreets of Beirut. Absolutely nowhere and getting worse fast. What has caused this? you may ask. Well, buckle aboard the rollercoatser of shambolic decisions. Good organisations have great leaders, average organisations have average leaders and awful organisations have John Coates and the gang. We're ran by clowns, good intentioned ones albeit, but clowns nevertheless. Let's look at it this way, if you know nothing about a subject, it's hard to know whether or not you are being bullshitted. How can someone who knows nothing about football be responsible for appointing senior decision makers at a football club? It's ike Mother Teresa running Divas Delight. The Coates clan just don't have the expertise required to pick the right people. With them it's been one calamity of a decision after another. "Only bad decisions? No, you're being harsh, the Coates's have been great for the club!!" You may think..... Yes, they may well have our best interests at heart, but they made one good decision EVER, and that was appointing Sir Tony Pulis. Pulis, was a manager. Though, he wasn't just the manager, he was the manager, the CEO, the boss, the naked headbutter, the everything. He ran the club from top to bottom. I don't believe there was single thing that was done at the club without the authorisation of Don Pulis. When asked what he wanted his next job title to be, I remember him saying something along lines of 'I don't give a monkeys if i'm the head coach, the dinner lady or the manager, as long as I make the decisions and get full autonomy to do so'. Too right Tony. How much we miss you. Not only did he make the decisions, he led. Under him our players were not just players, they were heroes, professionals, true representatives of our great city. Players would die for the shirt and often give up time for local charities. Walters, Delap, Whelan, Huth, Shawcross, you name 'em - the list goes on! Pulis did not accept anything less than 100% from any member of Stoke City Football Club - and it showed! We were technically the worst team in the Premier league when we went up and yet we survived based on grit, desire, determination and the loudest fans in the country. We were loud because we were given something to cheer about! Anyway, as much as i'd like it to be, this isn't a Pulis apprecation post. "Pulis was good, I'll give you that, but he wasn't the only good decision made by the Coates's. What were all these other bad decisions you speak of?" I hear you scream. Well, let me start with Nan hair, the only one man in football who can burn money quicker than Charlie Sheen in Vegas, the man who gives accountants nightmares and could reduce Martin Lewis to tears just by looking at him. Mark Hughes. And what did the Coates's do with him? Did they limit his spending? Give him a small budget? No, they bankrolled him and gave him a blank check! He signed countless prima donnas on massive contracts that caused our descent into a state of chaotic ruin. Granted, we played some great football under Hughes, some of the best i've ever seen - we weren't called Stokealona for nothing. However, his appointment was the cause of this sorry state that we still find ourselves in now. After Hughes, I thought the club had exceeded its awful decision limit, alas, it had not. John: 'Peter! Hiring Hughes was an awful decision, we've royally fucked our recruitment, how can we top that?' Peter: 'Could just hire a Jacamo model. A random short one. Preferably with ZERO playing experience.' John: 'Say no more.' In struts Cartwright, a man with zero experience in football except a one season stint in goal for the Black Lion. And the club decided to appoint him as head of recruitment - terrific. How did that end? You know the story. You'd think i'd be finished now - but miraculously I'm not. Onto the next bad decision, the legend in his own lunchtime, the self-proclaimed second coming of Christ, the Blaenrhondda Benitez; Nathan Jones. That's right, we appointed the biggest pillock in football to run our club, fitting. I mean, Come on?! How on earth did he get the job? It's not as if he's even convincing, you can tell he's talking shite as soon as his lips start moving. He might as well have Charlatan tattooed on his forehead. Anyway, I don't need to explain how his appointment went. The man did nothing except beat his chest like an angry caveman, concede lots of goals and admire the smell of his own farts. He left us for dead. But, there was light at the end of the tunnel and it came in the form of St Michael [O'Neill]. What a man, he showed character, tactical nouse and kept us up when we looked destined for League One. He managed all this with both hands tied behind his back due to FFP - he worked miracles! But what did the club do? Like, surely, by now we've reached the peak of imbecilic decision making and hindsight would come to save us. Don't make me laugh! The Coates's took it upon themselves to sack him. But no, not just a normal sacking, no, that wouldn't be stupid enough. Sacking him would be a mere 1/10 on the stupidity scale! Why make just a bad decision when you can make an unjustifiably catastrophic one? Go hard or go home. The Coates's took it upon themselves to wait until O Neill had had a full pre season with his squad, before promptly sacking him a few games into the season. If Carlsberg did fuck ups.... What does the future hold for us? Does anyone see any other outcome than relegation? Pulis was First Team Manager and never CEO, that position was occupied by Tony Scholes, who was also a Main Board Director.
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Post by danceswithclams on Feb 27, 2024 21:39:14 GMT
They've made two good decisions in 30 odd years.
1. Appointment of Luigi Macari 2. Appointment and giving free reign and financial support to Anthony Richard Pulis.
Every single thing they've done other than the above has been directionless, ill-informed wank.
We've got two options with the current ownership:
1. Hope that, by sheer luck, they finally happen on something that works (be it managerial appointment or bringing in outside expert help to run the club efficiently and effectively).
2. Fuck them off and hope that someone or some entity who knows what they're doing takes the club on and halts the decline.
Carrying on as we are will see us in the National League within 6 years, I guarantee it.
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Post by pulismaskreplica on Feb 27, 2024 21:44:03 GMT
They've made two good decisions in 30 odd years. 1. Appointment of Luigi Macari 2. Appointment and giving free reign and financial support to Anthony Richard Pulis. Every single thing they've done other than the above has been directionless, ill-informed wank. We've got two options with the current ownership: 1. Hope that, by sheer luck, they finally happen on something that works (be it managerial appointment or bringing in outside expert help to run the club efficiently and effectively). 2. Fuck them off and hope that someone or some entity who knows what they're doing takes the club on and halts the decline. Carrying on as we are will see us in the National League within 6 years, I guarantee it. But they’re good local and loyal fans But they’ve got the clubs best interests at heart But without them we’d go bust But real fans support any old shit But real fans would follow this club to the diadora premier
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Post by jontimmis on Feb 27, 2024 21:44:10 GMT
What’s all the fuss about
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Post by Beloved Monkfish on Feb 27, 2024 21:46:35 GMT
Right, I want to preface this post by professing my admiration for the Coates's as people, not owners, PEOPLE. Let's put it this way, we have everything we need to be a successful club. Money, fanbase, a recent decade in the prem, the list goes on. On paper you'd expect us to be top end of Championship/Low Premiership, however on grass we're somewhere closer to the backstreets of Beirut. Absolutely nowhere and getting worse fast. What has caused this? you may ask. Well, buckle aboard the rollercoatser of shambolic decisions. Good organisations have great leaders, average organisations have average leaders and awful organisations have John Coates and the gang. We're ran by clowns, good intentioned ones albeit, but clowns nevertheless. Let's look at it this way, if you know nothing about a subject, it's hard to know whether or not you are being bullshitted. How can someone who knows nothing about football be responsible for appointing senior decision makers at a football club? It's ike Mother Teresa running Divas Delight. The Coates clan just don't have the expertise required to pick the right people. With them it's been one calamity of a decision after another. "Only bad decisions? No, you're being harsh, the Coates's have been great for the club!!" You may think..... Yes, they may well have our best interests at heart, but they made one good decision EVER, and that was appointing Sir Tony Pulis. Pulis, was a manager. Though, he wasn't just the manager, he was the manager, the CEO, the boss, the naked headbutter, the everything. He ran the club from top to bottom. I don't believe there was single thing that was done at the club without the authorisation of Don Pulis. When asked what he wanted his next job title to be, I remember him saying something along lines of 'I don't give a monkeys if i'm the head coach, the dinner lady or the manager, as long as I make the decisions and get full autonomy to do so'. Too right Tony. How much we miss you. Not only did he make the decisions, he led. Under him our players were not just players, they were heroes, professionals, true representatives of our great city. Players would die for the shirt and often give up time for local charities. Walters, Delap, Whelan, Huth, Shawcross, you name 'em - the list goes on! Pulis did not accept anything less than 100% from any member of Stoke City Football Club - and it showed! We were technically the worst team in the Premier league when we went up and yet we survived based on grit, desire, determination and the loudest fans in the country. We were loud because we were given something to cheer about! Anyway, as much as i'd like it to be, this isn't a Pulis apprecation post. "Pulis was good, I'll give you that, but he wasn't the only good decision made by the Coates's. What were all these other bad decisions you speak of?" I hear you scream. Well, let me start with Nan hair, the only one man in football who can burn money quicker than Charlie Sheen in Vegas, the man who gives accountants nightmares and could reduce Martin Lewis to tears just by looking at him. Mark Hughes. And what did the Coates's do with him? Did they limit his spending? Give him a small budget? No, they bankrolled him and gave him a blank check! He signed countless prima donnas on massive contracts that caused our descent into a state of chaotic ruin. Granted, we played some great football under Hughes, some of the best i've ever seen - we weren't called Stokealona for nothing. However, his appointment was the cause of this sorry state that we still find ourselves in now. After Hughes, I thought the club had exceeded its awful decision limit, alas, it had not. John: 'Peter! Hiring Hughes was an awful decision, we've royally fucked our recruitment, how can we top that?' Peter: 'Could just hire a Jacamo model. A random short one. Preferably with ZERO playing experience.' John: 'Say no more.' In struts Cartwright, a man with zero experience in football except a one season stint in goal for the Black Lion. And the club decided to appoint him as head of recruitment - terrific. How did that end? You know the story. You'd think i'd be finished now - but miraculously I'm not. Onto the next bad decision, the legend in his own lunchtime, the self-proclaimed second coming of Christ, the Blaenrhondda Benitez; Nathan Jones. That's right, we appointed the biggest pillock in football to run our club, fitting. I mean, Come on?! How on earth did he get the job? It's not as if he's even convincing, you can tell he's talking shite as soon as his lips start moving. He might as well have Charlatan tattooed on his forehead. Anyway, I don't need to explain how his appointment went. The man did nothing except beat his chest like an angry caveman, concede lots of goals and admire the smell of his own farts. He left us for dead. But, there was light at the end of the tunnel and it came in the form of St Michael [O'Neill]. What a man, he showed character, tactical nouse and kept us up when we looked destined for League One. He managed all this with both hands tied behind his back due to FFP - he worked miracles! But what did the club do? Like, surely, by now we've reached the peak of imbecilic decision making and hindsight would come to save us. Don't make me laugh! The Coates's took it upon themselves to sack him. But no, not just a normal sacking, no, that wouldn't be stupid enough. Sacking him would be a mere 1/10 on the stupidity scale! Why make just a bad decision when you can make an unjustifiably catastrophic one? Go hard or go home. The Coates's took it upon themselves to wait until O Neill had had a full pre season with his squad, before promptly sacking him a few games into the season. If Carlsberg did fuck ups.... Anyway, I could go on about bad decisions like the appointment of Schumacher or having a latin pop star as head of recruitment only to sack him rather sharply. But I cannot. I cannot go on anymore. I recently bought some pins from Screwfix and I'm about to stick them in my eyes. Over and out. See you all in League One. You either care enough to write that or just like the sound of your own voice. I’m unsure which it is. Yet when "ted" writes a post similar, littered with spelling mistakes and poor grammar, it's lauded as being worthy of the Nobel Prize for Literature...
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Post by blackpoolred on Feb 27, 2024 21:48:32 GMT
Right, I want to preface this post by professing my admiration for the Coates's as people, not owners, PEOPLE. Let's put it this way, we have everything we need to be a successful club. Money, fanbase, a recent decade in the prem, the list goes on. On paper you'd expect us to be top end of Championship/Low Premiership, however on grass we're somewhere closer to the backstreets of Beirut. Absolutely nowhere and getting worse fast. What has caused this? you may ask. Well, buckle aboard the rollercoatser of shambolic decisions. Good organisations have great leaders, average organisations have average leaders and awful organisations have John Coates and the gang. We're ran by clowns, good intentioned ones albeit, but clowns nevertheless. Let's look at it this way, if you know nothing about a subject, it's hard to know whether or not you are being bullshitted. How can someone who knows nothing about football be responsible for appointing senior decision makers at a football club? It's ike Mother Teresa running Divas Delight. The Coates clan just don't have the expertise required to pick the right people. With them it's been one calamity of a decision after another. "Only bad decisions? No, you're being harsh, the Coates's have been great for the club!!" You may think..... Yes, they may well have our best interests at heart, but they made one good decision EVER, and that was appointing Sir Tony Pulis. Pulis, was a manager. Though, he wasn't just the manager, he was the manager, the CEO, the boss, the naked headbutter, the everything. He ran the club from top to bottom. I don't believe there was single thing that was done at the club without the authorisation of Don Pulis. When asked what he wanted his next job title to be, I remember him saying something along lines of 'I don't give a monkeys if i'm the head coach, the dinner lady or the manager, as long as I make the decisions and get full autonomy to do so'. Too right Tony. How much we miss you. Not only did he make the decisions, he led. Under him our players were not just players, they were heroes, professionals, true representatives of our great city. Players would die for the shirt and often give up time for local charities. Walters, Delap, Whelan, Huth, Shawcross, you name 'em - the list goes on! Pulis did not accept anything less than 100% from any member of Stoke City Football Club - and it showed! We were technically the worst team in the Premier league when we went up and yet we survived based on grit, desire, determination and the loudest fans in the country. We were loud because we were given something to cheer about! Anyway, as much as i'd like it to be, this isn't a Pulis apprecation post. "Pulis was good, I'll give you that, but he wasn't the only good decision made by the Coates's. What were all these other bad decisions you speak of?" I hear you scream. Well, let me start with Nan hair, the only one man in football who can burn money quicker than Charlie Sheen in Vegas, the man who gives accountants nightmares and could reduce Martin Lewis to tears just by looking at him. Mark Hughes. And what did the Coates's do with him? Did they limit his spending? Give him a small budget? No, they bankrolled him and gave him a blank check! He signed countless prima donnas on massive contracts that caused our descent into a state of chaotic ruin. Granted, we played some great football under Hughes, some of the best i've ever seen - we weren't called Stokealona for nothing. However, his appointment was the cause of this sorry state that we still find ourselves in now. After Hughes, I thought the club had exceeded its awful decision limit, alas, it had not. John: 'Peter! Hiring Hughes was an awful decision, we've royally fucked our recruitment, how can we top that?' Peter: 'Could just hire a Jacamo model. A random short one. Preferably with ZERO playing experience.' John: 'Say no more.' In struts Cartwright, a man with zero experience in football except a one season stint in goal for the Black Lion. And the club decided to appoint him as head of recruitment - terrific. How did that end? You know the story. You'd think i'd be finished now - but miraculously I'm not. Onto the next bad decision, the legend in his own lunchtime, the self-proclaimed second coming of Christ, the Blaenrhondda Benitez; Nathan Jones. That's right, we appointed the biggest pillock in football to run our club, fitting. I mean, Come on?! How on earth did he get the job? It's not as if he's even convincing, you can tell he's talking shite as soon as his lips start moving. He might as well have Charlatan tattooed on his forehead. Anyway, I don't need to explain how his appointment went. The man did nothing except beat his chest like an angry caveman, concede lots of goals and admire the smell of his own farts. He left us for dead. But, there was light at the end of the tunnel and it came in the form of St Michael [O'Neill]. What a man, he showed character, tactical nouse and kept us up when we looked destined for League One. He managed all this with both hands tied behind his back due to FFP - he worked miracles! But what did the club do? Like, surely, by now we've reached the peak of imbecilic decision making and hindsight would come to save us. Don't make me laugh! The Coates's took it upon themselves to sack him. But no, not just a normal sacking, no, that wouldn't be stupid enough. Sacking him would be a mere 1/10 on the stupidity scale! Why make just a bad decision when you can make an unjustifiably catastrophic one? Go hard or go home. The Coates's took it upon themselves to wait until O Neill had had a full pre season with his squad, before promptly sacking him a few games into the season. If Carlsberg did fuck ups.... What does the future hold for us? Does anyone see any other outcome than relegation? In answer your last question - there will only be relegation while they are here. Got lucky with one of the dinosaurs they employed(Pulis), but ultimately, 4 or 5 British no-hopers later and a bizarre transfer policy they were always destined to take us back to tier 3 and always will. If they walked into Villa pre-season having being kicked out of Stoke, then Villa would be in our position 4 or 5 managers later. I wish them well, but the glimmer of hope I am clinging to is that they will be forced to leave at the end of the season. I don't have long left and just see no hope or future whatsoever while they are here - problem being John is still a young man and he has siblings and they could be here for decades to come. If by some miracle we survive this season, and we won't if he sticks with his latest disastrous appointment of a manager, we will be in exactly the same position next year having probably employed 2 more British punts that we would have had to google to find out who they were, we will have a totally unbalanced squad with virtually no players to choose from in certain positions - we know nothing will change and it is getting kind of tedious now.
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Post by vicarious on Feb 27, 2024 21:49:13 GMT
They've made two good decisions in 30 odd years. 1. Appointment of Luigi Macari 2. Appointment and giving free reign and financial support to Anthony Richard Pulis. Every single thing they've done other than the above has been directionless, ill-informed wank. We've got two options with the current ownership: 1. Hope that, by sheer luck, they finally happen on something that works (be it managerial appointment or bringing in outside expert help to run the club efficiently and effectively). 2. Fuck them off and hope that someone or some entity who knows what they're doing takes the club on and halts the decline. Carrying on as we are will see us in the National League within 6 years, I guarantee it. Agree with this. Both point 1 & 2 though fills me with dread, as I’m concerned the Coates are now relying on guidance from a New Orleans voodoo practitioner.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2024 21:51:04 GMT
Right, I want to preface this post by professing my admiration for the Coates's as people, not owners, PEOPLE. Let's put it this way, we have everything we need to be a successful club. Money, fanbase, a recent decade in the prem, the list goes on. On paper you'd expect us to be top end of Championship/Low Premiership, however on grass we're somewhere closer to the backstreets of Beirut. Absolutely nowhere and getting worse fast. What has caused this? you may ask. Well, buckle aboard the rollercoatser of shambolic decisions. Good organisations have great leaders, average organisations have average leaders and awful organisations have John Coates and the gang. We're ran by clowns, good intentioned ones albeit, but clowns nevertheless. Let's look at it this way, if you know nothing about a subject, it's hard to know whether or not you are being bullshitted. How can someone who knows nothing about football be responsible for appointing senior decision makers at a football club? It's ike Mother Teresa running Divas Delight. The Coates clan just don't have the expertise required to pick the right people. With them it's been one calamity of a decision after another. "Only bad decisions? No, you're being harsh, the Coates's have been great for the club!!" You may think..... Yes, they may well have our best interests at heart, but they made one good decision EVER, and that was appointing Sir Tony Pulis. Pulis, was a manager. Though, he wasn't just the manager, he was the manager, the CEO, the boss, the naked headbutter, the everything. He ran the club from top to bottom. I don't believe there was single thing that was done at the club without the authorisation of Don Pulis. When asked what he wanted his next job title to be, I remember him saying something along lines of 'I don't give a monkeys if i'm the head coach, the dinner lady or the manager, as long as I make the decisions and get full autonomy to do so'. Too right Tony. How much we miss you. Not only did he make the decisions, he led. Under him our players were not just players, they were heroes, professionals, true representatives of our great city. Players would die for the shirt and often give up time for local charities. Walters, Delap, Whelan, Huth, Shawcross, you name 'em - the list goes on! Pulis did not accept anything less than 100% from any member of Stoke City Football Club - and it showed! We were technically the worst team in the Premier league when we went up and yet we survived based on grit, desire, determination and the loudest fans in the country. We were loud because we were given something to cheer about! Anyway, as much as i'd like it to be, this isn't a Pulis apprecation post. "Pulis was good, I'll give you that, but he wasn't the only good decision made by the Coates's. What were all these other bad decisions you speak of?" I hear you scream. Well, let me start with Nan hair, the only one man in football who can burn money quicker than Charlie Sheen in Vegas, the man who gives accountants nightmares and could reduce Martin Lewis to tears just by looking at him. Mark Hughes. And what did the Coates's do with him? Did they limit his spending? Give him a small budget? No, they bankrolled him and gave him a blank check! He signed countless prima donnas on massive contracts that caused our descent into a state of chaotic ruin. Granted, we played some great football under Hughes, some of the best i've ever seen - we weren't called Stokealona for nothing. However, his appointment was the cause of this sorry state that we still find ourselves in now. After Hughes, I thought the club had exceeded its awful decision limit, alas, it had not. John: 'Peter! Hiring Hughes was an awful decision, we've royally fucked our recruitment, how can we top that?' Peter: 'Could just hire a Jacamo model. A random short one. Preferably with ZERO playing experience.' John: 'Say no more.' In struts Cartwright, a man with zero experience in football except a one season stint in goal for the Black Lion. And the club decided to appoint him as head of recruitment - terrific. How did that end? You know the story. You'd think i'd be finished now - but miraculously I'm not. Onto the next bad decision, the legend in his own lunchtime, the self-proclaimed second coming of Christ, the Blaenrhondda Benitez; Nathan Jones. That's right, we appointed the biggest pillock in football to run our club, fitting. I mean, Come on?! How on earth did he get the job? It's not as if he's even convincing, you can tell he's talking shite as soon as his lips start moving. He might as well have Charlatan tattooed on his forehead. Anyway, I don't need to explain how his appointment went. The man did nothing except beat his chest like an angry caveman, concede lots of goals and admire the smell of his own farts. He left us for dead. But, there was light at the end of the tunnel and it came in the form of St Michael [O'Neill]. What a man, he showed character, tactical nouse and kept us up when we looked destined for League One. He managed all this with both hands tied behind his back due to FFP - he worked miracles! But what did the club do? Like, surely, by now we've reached the peak of imbecilic decision making and hindsight would come to save us. Don't make me laugh! The Coates's took it upon themselves to sack him. But no, not just a normal sacking, no, that wouldn't be stupid enough. Sacking him would be a mere 1/10 on the stupidity scale! Why make just a bad decision when you can make an unjustifiably catastrophic one? Go hard or go home. The Coates's took it upon themselves to wait until O Neill had had a full pre season with his squad, before promptly sacking him a few games into the season. If Carlsberg did fuck ups.... What does the future hold for us? Does anyone see any other outcome than relegation? Hughes did a superb job here, and went past his shelf life. It happens to pretty much all managers. He bought some of the best players I've seen in a Stoke shirt. Then lost his way. He'd be remembered more favourably by some, if we'd not fucked up recruiting his replacement.
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Post by danceswithclams on Feb 27, 2024 21:52:43 GMT
You either care enough to write that or just like the sound of your own voice. I’m unsure which it is. Yet when "ted" writes a post similar, littered with spelling mistakes and poor grammar, it's lauded as being worthy of the Novel Prize for Literature... I've honestly never read a post by that guy purely due to their meandering, mildly hectoring nature. One paragraph in and I've switched off and started thinking about a squirrel wearing a hat or something.
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Post by anchorman on Feb 27, 2024 22:35:18 GMT
Right, I want to preface this post by professing my admiration for the Coates's as people, not owners, PEOPLE. Let's put it this way, we have everything we need to be a successful club. Money, fanbase, a recent decade in the prem, the list goes on. On paper you'd expect us to be top end of Championship/Low Premiership, however on grass we're somewhere closer to the backstreets of Beirut. Absolutely nowhere and getting worse fast. What has caused this? you may ask. Well, buckle aboard the rollercoatser of shambolic decisions. Good organisations have great leaders, average organisations have average leaders and awful organisations have John Coates and the gang. We're ran by clowns, good intentioned ones albeit, but clowns nevertheless. Let's look at it this way, if you know nothing about a subject, it's hard to know whether or not you are being bullshitted. How can someone who knows nothing about football be responsible for appointing senior decision makers at a football club? It's ike Mother Teresa running Divas Delight. The Coates clan just don't have the expertise required to pick the right people. With them it's been one calamity of a decision after another. "Only bad decisions? No, you're being harsh, the Coates's have been great for the club!!" You may think..... Yes, they may well have our best interests at heart, but they made one good decision EVER, and that was appointing Sir Tony Pulis. Pulis, was a manager. Though, he wasn't just the manager, he was the manager, the CEO, the boss, the naked headbutter, the everything. He ran the club from top to bottom. I don't believe there was single thing that was done at the club without the authorisation of Don Pulis. When asked what he wanted his next job title to be, I remember him saying something along lines of 'I don't give a monkeys if i'm the head coach, the dinner lady or the manager, as long as I make the decisions and get full autonomy to do so'. Too right Tony. How much we miss you. Not only did he make the decisions, he led. Under him our players were not just players, they were heroes, professionals, true representatives of our great city. Players would die for the shirt and often give up time for local charities. Walters, Delap, Whelan, Huth, Shawcross, you name 'em - the list goes on! Pulis did not accept anything less than 100% from any member of Stoke City Football Club - and it showed! We were technically the worst team in the Premier league when we went up and yet we survived based on grit, desire, determination and the loudest fans in the country. We were loud because we were given something to cheer about! Anyway, as much as i'd like it to be, this isn't a Pulis apprecation post. "Pulis was good, I'll give you that, but he wasn't the only good decision made by the Coates's. What were all these other bad decisions you speak of?" I hear you scream. Well, let me start with Nan hair, the only one man in football who can burn money quicker than Charlie Sheen in Vegas, the man who gives accountants nightmares and could reduce Martin Lewis to tears just by looking at him. Mark Hughes. And what did the Coates's do with him? Did they limit his spending? Give him a small budget? No, they bankrolled him and gave him a blank check! He signed countless prima donnas on massive contracts that caused our descent into a state of chaotic ruin. Granted, we played some great football under Hughes, some of the best i've ever seen - we weren't called Stokealona for nothing. However, his appointment was the cause of this sorry state that we still find ourselves in now. After Hughes, I thought the club had exceeded its awful decision limit, alas, it had not. John: 'Peter! Hiring Hughes was an awful decision, we've royally fucked our recruitment, how can we top that?' Peter: 'Could just hire a Jacamo model. A random short one. Preferably with ZERO playing experience.' John: 'Say no more.' In struts Cartwright, a man with zero experience in football except a one season stint in goal for the Black Lion. And the club decided to appoint him as head of recruitment - terrific. How did that end? You know the story. You'd think i'd be finished now - but miraculously I'm not. Onto the next bad decision, the legend in his own lunchtime, the self-proclaimed second coming of Christ, the Blaenrhondda Benitez; Nathan Jones. That's right, we appointed the biggest pillock in football to run our club, fitting. I mean, Come on?! How on earth did he get the job? It's not as if he's even convincing, you can tell he's talking shite as soon as his lips start moving. He might as well have Charlatan tattooed on his forehead. Anyway, I don't need to explain how his appointment went. The man did nothing except beat his chest like an angry caveman, concede lots of goals and admire the smell of his own farts. He left us for dead. But, there was light at the end of the tunnel and it came in the form of St Michael [O'Neill]. What a man, he showed character, tactical nouse and kept us up when we looked destined for League One. He managed all this with both hands tied behind his back due to FFP - he worked miracles! But what did the club do? Like, surely, by now we've reached the peak of imbecilic decision making and hindsight would come to save us. Don't make me laugh! The Coates's took it upon themselves to sack him. But no, not just a normal sacking, no, that wouldn't be stupid enough. Sacking him would be a mere 1/10 on the stupidity scale! Why make just a bad decision when you can make an unjustifiably catastrophic one? Go hard or go home. The Coates's took it upon themselves to wait until O Neill had had a full pre season with his squad, before promptly sacking him a few games into the season. If Carlsberg did fuck ups.... Anyway, I could go on about bad decisions like the appointment of Schumacher or having a latin pop star as head of recruitment only to sack him rather sharply. But I cannot. I cannot go on anymore. I recently bought some pins from Screwfix and I'm about to stick them in my eyes. Over and out. See you all in League One. You either care enough to write that or just like the sound of your own voice. I’m unsure which it is. Brilliant post & absolutely spot on. I still believe the wrong Tony left the club in 2013. I would have backed TP and given him the opportunity to evolve and further establish the club long term in the Premier League. Mark Hughes dined out on 10 years hard graft from TP and I always said he wasn’t capable of building his own spine once that began to age. I quite literally could see the wheels coming off years before they actually did. The structure of PC, TP, Rudgey, Gerry Francis, Peter Reid was strong. All football people with heart, desire, commitment and experience. Morons followed I’m afraid. Re the good and bad decisions, I have to take issue with you re TP being a good decision. Upon reflection, I actually think it was a lucky decision rather than a good one. A manager at the top of his game, learnt the hard way, strong character & happened to be a marriage made in heaven. I also can’t see any conclusion other than relegation…hope I’m completely wrong…As I said on too many occasions…be careful what you wish for.
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Post by professorplump on Feb 27, 2024 23:04:44 GMT
Hiring Mark Hughes was not a mistake. Not sacking him after his 4th season was.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 27, 2024 23:11:21 GMT
Pulis was First Team Manager and never CEO, that position was occupied by Tony Scholes, who was also a Main Board Director. [/quote]
Pulis ran the whole show and made them all look good upstairs. Once Hughes had lost his way you can see how it all fell apart. Peter and John deep down miss him like fuck.
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Post by Gods on Feb 27, 2024 23:11:44 GMT
gawd, this thread is too many words, I'm out!
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 27, 2024 23:12:47 GMT
Right, I want to preface this post by professing my admiration for the Coates's as people, not owners, PEOPLE. Let's put it this way, we have everything we need to be a successful club. Money, fanbase, a recent decade in the prem, the list goes on. On paper you'd expect us to be top end of Championship/Low Premiership, however on grass we're somewhere closer to the backstreets of Beirut. Absolutely nowhere and getting worse fast. What has caused this? you may ask. Well, buckle aboard the rollercoatser of shambolic decisions. Good organisations have great leaders, average organisations have average leaders and awful organisations have John Coates and the gang. We're ran by clowns, good intentioned ones albeit, but clowns nevertheless. Let's look at it this way, if you know nothing about a subject, it's hard to know whether or not you are being bullshitted. How can someone who knows nothing about football be responsible for appointing senior decision makers at a football club? It's ike Mother Teresa running Divas Delight. The Coates clan just don't have the expertise required to pick the right people. With them it's been one calamity of a decision after another. "Only bad decisions? No, you're being harsh, the Coates's have been great for the club!!" You may think..... Yes, they may well have our best interests at heart, but they made one good decision EVER, and that was appointing Sir Tony Pulis. Pulis, was a manager. Though, he wasn't just the manager, he was the manager, the CEO, the boss, the naked headbutter, the everything. He ran the club from top to bottom. I don't believe there was single thing that was done at the club without the authorisation of Don Pulis. When asked what he wanted his next job title to be, I remember him saying something along lines of 'I don't give a monkeys if i'm the head coach, the dinner lady or the manager, as long as I make the decisions and get full autonomy to do so'. Too right Tony. How much we miss you. Not only did he make the decisions, he led. Under him our players were not just players, they were heroes, professionals, true representatives of our great city. Players would die for the shirt and often give up time for local charities. Walters, Delap, Whelan, Huth, Shawcross, you name 'em - the list goes on! Pulis did not accept anything less than 100% from any member of Stoke City Football Club - and it showed! We were technically the worst team in the Premier league when we went up and yet we survived based on grit, desire, determination and the loudest fans in the country. We were loud because we were given something to cheer about! Anyway, as much as i'd like it to be, this isn't a Pulis apprecation post. "Pulis was good, I'll give you that, but he wasn't the only good decision made by the Coates's. What were all these other bad decisions you speak of?" I hear you scream. Well, let me start with Nan hair, the only one man in football who can burn money quicker than Charlie Sheen in Vegas, the man who gives accountants nightmares and could reduce Martin Lewis to tears just by looking at him. Mark Hughes. And what did the Coates's do with him? Did they limit his spending? Give him a small budget? No, they bankrolled him and gave him a blank check! He signed countless prima donnas on massive contracts that caused our descent into a state of chaotic ruin. Granted, we played some great football under Hughes, some of the best i've ever seen - we weren't called Stokealona for nothing. However, his appointment was the cause of this sorry state that we still find ourselves in now. After Hughes, I thought the club had exceeded its awful decision limit, alas, it had not. John: 'Peter! Hiring Hughes was an awful decision, we've royally fucked our recruitment, how can we top that?' Peter: 'Could just hire a Jacamo model. A random short one. Preferably with ZERO playing experience.' John: 'Say no more.' In struts Cartwright, a man with zero experience in football except a one season stint in goal for the Black Lion. And the club decided to appoint him as head of recruitment - terrific. How did that end? You know the story. You'd think i'd be finished now - but miraculously I'm not. Onto the next bad decision, the legend in his own lunchtime, the self-proclaimed second coming of Christ, the Blaenrhondda Benitez; Nathan Jones. That's right, we appointed the biggest pillock in football to run our club, fitting. I mean, Come on?! How on earth did he get the job? It's not as if he's even convincing, you can tell he's talking shite as soon as his lips start moving. He might as well have Charlatan tattooed on his forehead. Anyway, I don't need to explain how his appointment went. The man did nothing except beat his chest like an angry caveman, concede lots of goals and admire the smell of his own farts. He left us for dead. But, there was light at the end of the tunnel and it came in the form of St Michael [O'Neill]. What a man, he showed character, tactical nouse and kept us up when we looked destined for League One. He managed all this with both hands tied behind his back due to FFP - he worked miracles! But what did the club do? Like, surely, by now we've reached the peak of imbecilic decision making and hindsight would come to save us. Don't make me laugh! The Coates's took it upon themselves to sack him. But no, not just a normal sacking, no, that wouldn't be stupid enough. Sacking him would be a mere 1/10 on the stupidity scale! Why make just a bad decision when you can make an unjustifiably catastrophic one? Go hard or go home. The Coates's took it upon themselves to wait until O Neill had had a full pre season with his squad, before promptly sacking him a few games into the season. If Carlsberg did fuck ups.... What does the future hold for us? Does anyone see any other outcome than relegation? Cartwright I believe was at school in Chester with JC. That's the criteria that got him the job. Amateur Sunday pub league shit...
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Post by jokker on Feb 27, 2024 23:27:14 GMT
Pulis was First Team Manager and never CEO, that position was occupied by Tony Scholes, who was also a Main Board Director. Pulis ran the whole show and made them all look good upstairs. Once Hughes had lost his way you can see how it all fell apart. Peter and John deep down miss him like fuck.[/quote] If they did they would have brought him back, and up until his retirement he would have come. But they didn't, so there must be some they don't miss where he is concerned.
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Post by pushon on Feb 27, 2024 23:37:24 GMT
Pulis was First Team Manager and never CEO, that position was occupied by Tony Scholes, who was also a Main Board Director. Pulis ran the whole show and made them all look good upstairs. Once Hughes had lost his way you can see how it all fell apart. Peter and John deep down miss him like fuck. If they did they would have brought him back, and up until his retirement he would have come. But they didn't, so there must be some they don't miss where he is concerned.[/quote]Really!Well if he did as you claim, then he was pretty crap at it cos Peter Coates sacked him🥱
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Feb 28, 2024 1:01:23 GMT
Could someone put it in a nutshell for me, I have a very low attention span!!!
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Post by madnellie on Feb 28, 2024 1:10:34 GMT
I'm a bit confused as to why John would call his dad Peter and not dad?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 28, 2024 1:16:33 GMT
Could someone put it in a nutshell for me, I have a very low attention span!!! It would appear that the OP, has miraculously revealed, that our owners aren't that great when it comes to making decisions.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Feb 28, 2024 1:24:27 GMT
Could someone put it in a nutshell for me, I have a very low attention span!!! It would appear that the OP, has miraculously revealed, that our owners aren't that great when it comes to making decisions. Cheers Paul...... Now could you reply to him for me!!! 😆👍🏼
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Post by jokker on Feb 28, 2024 6:26:58 GMT
Pulis ran the whole show and made them all look good upstairs. Once Hughes had lost his way you can see how it all fell apart. Peter and John deep down miss him like fuck. If they did they would have brought him back, and up until his retirement he would have come. But they didn't, so there must be some they don't miss where he is concerned. Really!Well if he did as you claim, then he was pretty crap at it cos Peter Coates sacked him🥱 [/quote] You're reading too much into that. This was probably the one time when the phrase "by mutual consent" actually meant what it said. If Pulis had had any grievences over the departure, then his friendship with them wouldn't have continued, he wouldn't have xontinued to have spoken so highly of them, and he wouldn't have sought PC's advice on subsequent jobs that he took.
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Post by dave1 on Feb 28, 2024 7:08:01 GMT
Right, I want to preface this post by professing my admiration for the Coates's as people, not owners, PEOPLE. Let's put it this way, we have everything we need to be a successful club. Money, fanbase, a recent decade in the prem, the list goes on. On paper you'd expect us to be top end of Championship/Low Premiership, however on grass we're somewhere closer to the backstreets of Beirut. Absolutely nowhere and getting worse fast. What has caused this? you may ask. Well, buckle aboard the rollercoatser of shambolic decisions. Good organisations have great leaders, average organisations have average leaders and awful organisations have John Coates and the gang. We're ran by clowns, good intentioned ones albeit, but clowns nevertheless. Let's look at it this way, if you know nothing about a subject, it's hard to know whether or not you are being bullshitted. How can someone who knows nothing about football be responsible for appointing senior decision makers at a football club? It's ike Mother Teresa running Divas Delight. The Coates clan just don't have the expertise required to pick the right people. With them it's been one calamity of a decision after another. "Only bad decisions? No, you're being harsh, the Coates's have been great for the club!!" You may think..... Yes, they may well have our best interests at heart, but they made one good decision EVER, and that was appointing Sir Tony Pulis. Pulis, was a manager. Though, he wasn't just the manager, he was the manager, the CEO, the boss, the naked headbutter, the everything. He ran the club from top to bottom. I don't believe there was single thing that was done at the club without the authorisation of Don Pulis. When asked what he wanted his next job title to be, I remember him saying something along lines of 'I don't give a monkeys if i'm the head coach, the dinner lady or the manager, as long as I make the decisions and get full autonomy to do so'. Too right Tony. How much we miss you. Not only did he make the decisions, he led. Under him our players were not just players, they were heroes, professionals, true representatives of our great city. Players would die for the shirt and often give up time for local charities. Walters, Delap, Whelan, Huth, Shawcross, you name 'em - the list goes on! Pulis did not accept anything less than 100% from any member of Stoke City Football Club - and it showed! We were technically the worst team in the Premier league when we went up and yet we survived based on grit, desire, determination and the loudest fans in the country. We were loud because we were given something to cheer about! Anyway, as much as i'd like it to be, this isn't a Pulis apprecation post. "Pulis was good, I'll give you that, but he wasn't the only good decision made by the Coates's. What were all these other bad decisions you speak of?" I hear you scream. Well, let me start with Nan hair, the only one man in football who can burn money quicker than Charlie Sheen in Vegas, the man who gives accountants nightmares and could reduce Martin Lewis to tears just by looking at him. Mark Hughes. And what did the Coates's do with him? Did they limit his spending? Give him a small budget? No, they bankrolled him and gave him a blank check! He signed countless prima donnas on massive contracts that caused our descent into a state of chaotic ruin. Granted, we played some great football under Hughes, some of the best i've ever seen - we weren't called Stokealona for nothing. However, his appointment was the cause of this sorry state that we still find ourselves in now. After Hughes, I thought the club had exceeded its awful decision limit, alas, it had not. John: 'Peter! Hiring Hughes was an awful decision, we've royally fucked our recruitment, how can we top that?' Peter: 'Could just hire a Jacamo model. A random short one. Preferably with ZERO playing experience.' John: 'Say no more.' In struts Cartwright, a man with zero experience in football except a one season stint in goal for the Black Lion. And the club decided to appoint him as head of recruitment - terrific. How did that end? You know the story. You'd think i'd be finished now - but miraculously I'm not. Onto the next bad decision, the legend in his own lunchtime, the self-proclaimed second coming of Christ, the Blaenrhondda Benitez; Nathan Jones. That's right, we appointed the biggest pillock in football to run our club, fitting. I mean, Come on?! How on earth did he get the job? It's not as if he's even convincing, you can tell he's talking shite as soon as his lips start moving. He might as well have Charlatan tattooed on his forehead. Anyway, I don't need to explain how his appointment went. The man did nothing except beat his chest like an angry caveman, concede lots of goals and admire the smell of his own farts. He left us for dead. But, there was light at the end of the tunnel and it came in the form of St Michael [O'Neill]. What a man, he showed character, tactical nouse and kept us up when we looked destined for League One. He managed all this with both hands tied behind his back due to FFP - he worked miracles! But what did the club do? Like, surely, by now we've reached the peak of imbecilic decision making and hindsight would come to save us. Don't make me laugh! The Coates's took it upon themselves to sack him. But no, not just a normal sacking, no, that wouldn't be stupid enough. Sacking him would be a mere 1/10 on the stupidity scale! Why make just a bad decision when you can make an unjustifiably catastrophic one? Go hard or go home. The Coates's took it upon themselves to wait until O Neill had had a full pre season with his squad, before promptly sacking him a few games into the season. If Carlsberg did fuck ups.... What does the future hold for us? Does anyone see any other outcome than relegation? Enjoyed reading that, brilliant post
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Post by jontimmis on Feb 28, 2024 7:14:00 GMT
One thing I would say, it really does give a great perspective on how well MON did at this club to clear all the crap out and create some stability.
He drinks the whiskey….
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Post by lawrieleslie on Feb 28, 2024 8:12:04 GMT
Wow you managed to read the stating the bleedin' obvious that far, well done. Does it mention Lambert or the inexperienced Steven Schumacher?
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