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Post by mcw on Feb 24, 2024 17:49:45 GMT
So as we are most likely heading into the depths, can anyone explain to me what next season is going to be like re FFP? Are we staring down the barrel of journeymen League 1 players and scrapping this squad OR will we have some financial clout in that league?
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Post by RF10 on Feb 24, 2024 17:56:32 GMT
We had financial clout in this league and spunked it all up the wall on overpriced shite.
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Post by karl on Feb 24, 2024 17:57:14 GMT
So as we are most likely heading into the depths, can anyone explain to me what next season is going to be like re FFP? Are we staring down the barrel of journeymen League 1 players and scrapping this squad OR will we have some financial clout in that league? If we went down most of this squad including those that got us in this position will be looking for a fast exit as they have no fight in them leaving just some of the young players who would do ok. We just have to hope we at least get what we paid for them or a profit. |
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Post by LH_SCFC on Feb 24, 2024 17:57:24 GMT
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Post by nickhfc on Feb 24, 2024 18:00:44 GMT
So we could go large on transfer fees but pay those players peanuts.
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Post by RF10 on Feb 24, 2024 18:03:07 GMT
So we could go large on transfer fees but pay those players peanuts. Cash injection by the owners counts towards turnover providing it's not in loan form so we would be completely free to spend what we want essentially. |
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Post by Pricey on Feb 24, 2024 18:03:48 GMT
Wages have to be 65% of turnover or less don’t they? I imagine if we’re average or more in the league we’re in now that could leave us in a bit of bother.
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Post by LH_SCFC on Feb 24, 2024 18:04:45 GMT
The hospitality tickets for Coates family members would be £10m per game.
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Post by Pricey on Feb 24, 2024 18:06:50 GMT
So we could go large on transfer fees but pay those players peanuts. Cash injection by the owners counts towards turnover providing it's not in loan form so we would be completely free to spend what we want essentially. Oh. So we can be the Man City of League One, shit all over everyone and still miss the playoffs? I can’t wait. |
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Post by chiswickpotter on Feb 24, 2024 18:07:03 GMT
Wages have to be 65% of turnover or less don’t they? I imagine if we’re average or more in the league we’re in now that could leave us in a bit of bother. Provided the owners fund it, you can spend as much as you want on transfers and wages, the rules are very lax. of course, yous till need to spend the money wisely |
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Post by smallthorner on Feb 24, 2024 18:09:54 GMT
The wages for management??
Walters - Director of Football
Gareth Ainsworth - head coach
Ryan Shawcross - assistant
Do these wages have to come into consideration?
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Feb 24, 2024 18:10:48 GMT
So as we are most likely heading into the depths, can anyone explain to me what next season is going to be like re FFP? Are we staring down the barrel of journeymen League 1 players and scrapping this squad OR will we have some financial clout in that league? We already have a core of journeymen League 1 players.... Bonham Gooch Rose .... .... .... .Laurent ..... Thompson ..... Ennis Only 5 to find! EI EI EI O of to the football here we go... |
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Post by chuckrocky on Feb 24, 2024 18:10:56 GMT
We’d have a good opportunity to buy some of the best young talent in the lower leagues and also develop our own prospects like Sidibie, Lowe and Tezgel.
What we’d actually do is sign Jake Livermore, Lucas Jutkiewicz and Marc Albrighton.
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Post by stokiejon03 on Feb 24, 2024 19:32:13 GMT
Wages have to be 65% of turnover or less don’t they? I imagine if we’re average or more in the league we’re in now that could leave us in a bit of bother. Provided the owners fund it, you can spend as much as you want on transfers and wages, the rules are very lax. of course, yous till need to spend the money wisely If John Coates put in say £100 million while in league one and we got promoted back to the championship. Does that £100 million count towards the FFP rules in the championship? |
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Post by karl on Feb 24, 2024 19:33:27 GMT
Provided the owners fund it, you can spend as much as you want on transfers and wages, the rules are very lax. of course, yous till need to spend the money wisely If John Coates put in say £100 million while in league one and we got promoted back to the championship. Does that £100 million count towards the FFP rules in the championship? Yes as it's the EFL. |
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Post by stokiejon03 on Feb 24, 2024 19:49:16 GMT
If John Coates put in say £100 million while in league one and we got promoted back to the championship. Does that £100 million count towards the FFP rules in the championship? Yes as it's the EFL. Thanks. So going down and coming back up eventually would put us in a very strong financial position in the championship if John Coates did invest a significant sum of money before being promoted. |
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Post by george2again on Feb 24, 2024 19:53:32 GMT
We’d have a good opportunity to buy some of the best young talent in the lower leagues and also develop our own prospects like Sidibie, Lowe and Tezgel. What we’d actually do is sign Jake Livermore, Lucas Jutkiewicz and Marc Albrighton. Lose is no where near. |
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Post by etebojan on Feb 24, 2024 20:11:42 GMT
So we could go large on transfer fees but pay those players peanuts. Cash injection by the owners counts towards turnover providing it's not in loan form so we would be completely free to spend what we want essentially. It would be catastrophic on many levels to go down... but if we did (and i know we said it when we dropped to Champ) it might finally be the big reset that we need and allow us to outspend everyone in the league, but this time wisely by cherry picking all the best young talent from league 1 & 2 with a handful of trusty seniors in the spine. |
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Post by etebojan on Feb 24, 2024 20:16:58 GMT
We’d have a good opportunity to buy some of the best young talent in the lower leagues and also develop our own prospects like Sidibie, Lowe and Tezgel. What we’d actually do is sign Jake Livermore, Lucas Jutkiewicz and Marc Albrighton. you'd hope we could do what Ipswich have done and create a young dynamic and incredibly together team, the more i'm adjusting mentally to the very real outcome of our relegation, the more i'm trying to console myself, that maybe we can make the best of it , spend some money on a proper reset with the best young talent...hopefully to rise like a giant oatcake Phoenix, and destroy the Championship in our first promotion season |
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Post by Billy the kid on Feb 24, 2024 20:32:37 GMT
We’d have a good opportunity to buy some of the best young talent in the lower leagues and also develop our own prospects like Sidibie, Lowe and Tezgel. What we’d actually do is sign Jake Livermore, Lucas Jutkiewicz and Marc Albrighton. you'd hope we could do what Ipswich have done and create a young dynamic and incredibly together team, the more i'm adjusting mentally to the very real outcome of our relegation, the more i'm trying to console myself, that maybe we can make the best of it , spend some money on a proper reset with the best young talent...hopefully to rise like a giant oatcake Phoenix, and destroy the Championship in our first promotion season What makes you think that we would be at the front of the line for "the best young talent"? Regarless of how bad (and we are bad!) we are as a Championship club, we are infinatly more attractive to the best young talent than we would be mixing it with the likes of Bolton, Barnsley, Peterborough and *Shudder* the mighty Oxford fucking United. Make no bones about it relegation will be an unmitigated disaster. |
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Post by etebojan on Feb 24, 2024 20:36:38 GMT
you'd hope we could do what Ipswich have done and create a young dynamic and incredibly together team, the more i'm adjusting mentally to the very real outcome of our relegation, the more i'm trying to console myself, that maybe we can make the best of it , spend some money on a proper reset with the best young talent...hopefully to rise like a giant oatcake Phoenix, and destroy the Championship in our first promotion season What makes you think that we would be at the front of the line for "the best young talent"? Regarless of how bad (and we are bad!) we are as a Championship club, we are infinatly more attractive to the best young talent than we would be mixing it with the likes of Bolton, Barnsley, Peterborough and *Shudder* the mighty Oxford fucking United. Make no bones about it relegation will be an unmitigated disaster. absolutely blind naive hope for better times |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 24, 2024 20:53:28 GMT
JC could spend £50m to try and get us promoted from Div 1,but we would still struggle to stay up,whilst he holds the reigns.
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Post by Billy the kid on Feb 24, 2024 21:04:37 GMT
PC could spend £50m to try and get us promoted from Div 1,but we would still struggle to stay up,whilst he holds the reigns. He could fall in to a swimming pool full of tits and come out sucking his own thumb. |
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Post by Pricey on Feb 24, 2024 21:19:08 GMT
Ipswich did 16 consecutive seasons in the Championship and after eventually getting relegated finished 9th, 11th and 9th in League 1 before it all came together last season. That’s even worse than our last trip to the third tier.
If we come back like they have I won’t mind as it all needs a massive shake up. I won’t have to watch it though so maybe that’s just me. And that may be the best-case scenario.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 24, 2024 21:37:31 GMT
So Pearson mmaee and burger wages won’t be included as all signed pre sep on more than 3 years not tha burgur will stay but million would count as signed after sept
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Post by theonlooker on Feb 24, 2024 22:25:34 GMT
They can spend what they want at that level aslong as they finance it all. The rules are very different at that level, which is daft but there you go.
The thought that they could just lash a load of money at it though just fills me with dread.
I'm seeing Lee Johnson as manager and a load of washed up 30 year old has beens struggling to 10th place.
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Post by march4 on Feb 24, 2024 22:28:17 GMT
So we could go large on transfer fees but pay those players peanuts. How about signing on fees? Could we give Messi £100M to sign for us but pay him 50p a week in wages? |
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Post by theonlooker on Feb 24, 2024 22:30:25 GMT
So we could go large on transfer fees but pay those players peanuts. How about signing on fees? Could we give Messi £100M to sign for us but pay him 50p a week in wages? We could pay him 500k a week march aslong as the owners injected the money into the club to finance it. Owner equity injections count towards turnover in League One and Two, whereas they don't above a certain limit in the Championship. |
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Post by march4 on Feb 24, 2024 22:39:43 GMT
How about signing on fees? Could we give Messi £100M to sign for us but pay him 50p a week in wages? We could pay him 500k a week march aslong as the owners injected the money into the club to finance it. Owner equity injections count towards turnover in League One and Two, whereas they don't above a certain limit in the Championship. So we could struggle in the 3rd tier with Messi, Ronaldo and Mbappe in the team. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 24, 2024 22:43:11 GMT
They can spend what they want at that level aslong as they finance it all. The rules are very different at that level, which is daft but there you go. The thought that they could just lash a load of money at it though just fills me with dread. I'm seeing Lee Johnson as manager and a load of washed up 30 year old has beens struggling to 10th place. 60% of turmover on wages is the limit though so headroom would be minimal without another clear put aka fire sale with no buyers |
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