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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 25, 2024 21:11:16 GMT
Words fail me. I take it your friends and family all want her back.. Of course he does, he’s a terrorist sympathiser… You might want to apologise and delete this mate.
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Post by wannabee on Feb 25, 2024 21:13:40 GMT
No-one is suggesting she be left off the hook Try her, tag her do whatever is necessary It breaks the Law to make someone Stateless as per the link I posted from House of Commons above. She is a British born and bred Citizen and we need to deal with it. I also posted a link where 400 similar people some who actually fought for ISIS have returned from Syria and Iraq without the Media Circus She is being singled out by subliminal use of her Image in some sections of the Media to define what Terrorists look like I.e. you can't trust any Muslim I utterly condemn her and her actions but I'd rather not have Government break the Law. I’m casting opinion on the law. All I’m saying it is not extreme behaviour to be of the opinion of good riddance. (Even though I know she will get back) I agree it's hardly an extreme opinion to think she's a product of her own making, im not goiing to say victim, An opinion expressed by the SIAC Appeals Court Judge The problem is if we don't follow the Law, even if its sometimes as Ass, we lower our own Standards.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Feb 25, 2024 21:16:18 GMT
A hedgehog, a badger and a beaver all on the same thread
Would be like a who's who of roadkill if one of her vests were to go off
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Feb 25, 2024 21:25:57 GMT
A hedgehog, a badger and a beaver all on the same thread Would be like a who's who of roadkill if one of her vests were to go off Post of the thread by a mile..
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Post by mrnovember on Feb 25, 2024 21:26:37 GMT
It's such a weird hill to die on for both sides of the culture war.
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Post by metalhead on Feb 25, 2024 21:33:25 GMT
I’m casting opinion on the law. All I’m saying it is not extreme behaviour to be of the opinion of good riddance. (Even though I know she will get back) I agree it's hardly an extreme opinion to think she's a product of her own making, im not goiing to say victim, An opinion expressed by the SIAC Appeals Court Judge The problem is if we don't follow the Law, even if its sometimes as Ass, we lower our own Standards. She's not a victim, not by a long shot. I find it appalling that some papers (primarily but not exclusively the Guardian) claim that she is. She is absolutely our problem though and we are not dealing with it. Worse, we are leaving ourselves legally vulnerable as our current position is in very questionable legal territory. The longer we leave it, the stronger her legal challenge may become.
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Post by lordb on Feb 25, 2024 21:47:40 GMT
No not at all Just seemed like you were certain Starmer would be bringing Begum back Seemed a bit random What has Starmer said about it? FFS...What part of " opinions are not facts" are you struggling to comprehend... Who mentioned facts? I didn't I was simply asking how you came to your opinion atm you haven't said so I can only conlude it's a random opinion borne of blind prejudice However if you something to persuade otherwise then say so, or is it a secret?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 25, 2024 21:53:56 GMT
A hedgehog, a badger and a beaver all on the same thread Would be like a who's who of roadkill if one of her vests were to go off I’ve seen a few beavers in my time that already look like roadkill
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Feb 25, 2024 22:07:14 GMT
A hedgehog, a badger and a beaver all on the same thread Would be like a who's who of roadkill if one of her vests were to go off I’ve seen a few beavers in my time that already look like roadkill You had to lower the tone
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Post by Soro's Sorrows on Feb 25, 2024 22:08:51 GMT
Of course he does, he’s a terrorist sympathiser… You might want to apologise and delete this mate. Why should someone apologise for calling you what you are.
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Post by franklin on Feb 25, 2024 22:15:05 GMT
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Post by flea79 on Feb 25, 2024 22:21:52 GMT
A hedgehog, a badger and a beaver all on the same thread Would be like a who's who of roadkill if one of her vests were to go off I’ve seen a few beavers in my time that already look like roadkill Hippos yawn, butchers bin!
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Post by metalhead on Feb 25, 2024 22:37:45 GMT
Yet another thread that has descended into farce.
Has run its course.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 26, 2024 5:45:25 GMT
You might want to apologise and delete this mate. Why should someone apologise for calling you what you are. Because I'm not.
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Feb 26, 2024 8:49:07 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 26, 2024 8:56:02 GMT
People who throw around claims of racism and terrorist sympathiser need to back it up with evidence, apologise and withdraw or be banned.
It’s as simple as that…….
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 26, 2024 9:22:24 GMT
People who throw around claims of racism and terrorist sympathiser need to back it up with evidence, apologise and withdraw or be banned. It’s as simple as that……. Also a distinction should be made between a ' point of view' or ' statement ' that is deemed to be racist or sympathetic to terrorism and judgement of the person making the statement. Much of the insults are simply based upon past history of the posters and an unnecessary sideshow to many of us. imo.
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Post by musik on Feb 26, 2024 9:23:58 GMT
Has Shamima Begum been a victim of child trafficking? Is there any existing evidence?
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Feb 26, 2024 9:24:39 GMT
People who throw around claims of racism and terrorist sympathiser need to back it up with evidence, apologise and withdraw or be banned. It’s as simple as that……. What would Huddy do then to fill his days if he got banned...
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Feb 26, 2024 9:25:29 GMT
People who throw around claims of racism and terrorist sympathiser need to back it up with evidence, apologise and withdraw or be banned. It’s as simple as that……. Also a distinction should be made between a ' point of view' or ' statement ' that is deemed to be racist or sympathetic to terrorism and judgement of the person making the statement. Much of the insults are simply based upon past history of the posters and an unnecessary sideshow to many of us. imo. Voice of reason....As always...
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 26, 2024 9:37:18 GMT
She's our problem because our pathetic leaders allow Islamic extremism to flourish along with Muslim grooming gangs.
Bring her back to the UK, give her a short trial (for Stoke to see if she's any good at firing shots into the top corner) and chuck her in the Thames. Examples need to be made of terrorists and traitors.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 26, 2024 9:41:37 GMT
People who throw around claims of racism and terrorist sympathiser need to back it up with evidence, apologise and withdraw or be banned. It’s as simple as that……. Also a distinction should be made between a ' point of view' or ' statement ' that is deemed to be racist or sympathetic to terrorism and judgement of the person making the statement. Much of the insults are simply based upon past history of the posters and an unnecessary sideshow to many of us. imo. It wouldn't be difficult to quote some of that "past history" as evidence of said racism then would it? Whether it's a sideshow to you or others is irrelevant in my opinion, I've blocked one person on here (he posted not so long ago) for calling me an antisemite and then not having the guts to reveal his true identity and back it up with evidence, that shouldn't be allowed................
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Post by gawa on Feb 26, 2024 9:46:29 GMT
Should set a precedent for anyone who leaves to fight for foreign regimes. Next up let's remove citizenship of anyone to fight for the IDF and strip their assets too.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 26, 2024 9:47:33 GMT
Also a distinction should be made between a ' point of view' or ' statement ' that is deemed to be racist or sympathetic to terrorism and judgement of the person making the statement. Much of the insults are simply based upon past history of the posters and an unnecessary sideshow to many of us. imo. It wouldn't be difficult to quote some of that "past history" as evidence of said racism then would it? Whether it's a sideshow to you or others is irrelevant in my opinion, I've blocked one person on here (he posted not so long ago) for calling me an antisemite and then not having the guts to either reveal his true identity and back it up with evidence, that shouldn't be allowed................ I'm not suggesting past history should be quoted, just that the squabbling is based on personal past histories. When you say such things shouldn't be allowed, the petty squabbling is a bit unnecessary imo when we are expressing opinions on important topics. No need for it whatsoever.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 26, 2024 9:57:48 GMT
People who throw around claims of racism and terrorist sympathiser need to back it up with evidence, apologise and withdraw or be banned. It’s as simple as that……. What would Huddy do then to fill his days if he got banned... That's funny because you're singling me out when numerous other posters have called you out. Consistency not your strong point eh mate?
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Feb 26, 2024 10:12:11 GMT
What would Huddy do then to fill his days if he got banned... That's funny because you're singling me out when numerous other posters have called you out. Consistency not your strong point eh mate? No one plays the " Racist " card more than you. Anyone who does not buy into your views is always branded " A Racist "
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 26, 2024 10:29:57 GMT
That's funny because you're singling me out when numerous other posters have called you out. Consistency not your strong point eh mate? No one plays the " Racist " card more than you. Anyone who does not buy into your views is always branded " A Racist " Simply not true mate, complete nonsense. People who post racist views, like the recent Lee Anderson video, yes, I will call them out on it and those who liked that particular post as it means they are supporting those self same racist views. What in your view does that make those people?
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Feb 26, 2024 10:49:25 GMT
No one plays the " Racist " card more than you. Anyone who does not buy into your views is always branded " A Racist " Simply not true mate, complete nonsense. People who post racist views, like the recent Lee Anderson video, yes, I will call them out on it and those who liked that particular post as it means they are supporting those self same racist views. What in your view does that make those people? Last time you and I clashed over this I, not you, ended up with a ban. So lets park it right there and agree to disagree. I'm not a racist, and you are not a Terrorist sympathiser.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 26, 2024 11:03:46 GMT
Simply not true mate, complete nonsense. People who post racist views, like the recent Lee Anderson video, yes, I will call them out on it and those who liked that particular post as it means they are supporting those self same racist views. What in your view does that make those people? Last time you and I clashed over this I, not you, ended up with a ban. So lets park it right there and agree to disagree. I'm not a racist, and you are not a Terrorist sympathiser. I have no idea you got a ban and for what it's worth it wasn't me that complained, I give as good as I get.
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Post by wannabee on Feb 26, 2024 11:59:08 GMT
Has Shamima Begum been a victim of child trafficking? Is there any existing evidence? Yes She and her companions were trafficked into Syria by an Undercover Double-Agent Operative working for Canadian Intelligence who was gathering information on ISIS in the hope of gaining a Canadian Passport Justin Trudeau says he doesn't comment on Security Matters Ben Wallace (UK Defence Minister at the time) says he doesn't comment on Security Matters Sajid Javid was unable to find 👀 and evidence she was Trafficked when he revoked her Citizenship in 2019 www.bbc.com/news/uk-62726954Two officials from the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) met then Met head of counter-terrorism, Richard Walton, in March 2015, shortly after Begum’s disappearance, a meeting that the senior police officer felt was self-serving i.e he'd rather not have been told www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/aug/31/shamima-begum-smuggled-into-syria-for-islamic-state-by-canadian-spy
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