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Post by swampmongrel on Apr 15, 2024 10:41:10 GMT
I've just been looking at the five match form of the clubs involved (from Millwall down to Sheff Wednesday)
Here are the total points gained from those last 5 matches:
Club : Pts Millwall : 7 Blackburn : 7 Plymouth : 7 QPR : 7 Stoke : 6 Birmingham : 6 Hudders : 5 Sheff Wednesday : 6
I'm not really sure what to make of that but it seems that no-one in it has really pulled away with an amazing run of form but nobody has collapsed either.
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Post by Robo10 on Apr 15, 2024 11:37:13 GMT
I've just been looking at the five match form of the clubs involved (from Millwall down to Sheff Wednesday) Here are the total points gained from those last 5 matches: Club : Pts Millwall : 7 Blackburn : 7 Plymouth : 7 QPR : 7 Stoke : 6 Birmingham : 6 Hudders : 5 Sheff Wednesday : 6 I'm not really sure what to make of that but it seems that no-one in it has really pulled away with an amazing run of form but nobody has collapsed either. Not beating Huddersfield home (which was expected after Hull) and away (having led the game and they were proper shite) and those 4 points would have made a massive difference! Still think win Saturday and we are fine Brum have to play Huddersfield Blackburn have to play Wednesday Stoke have to play Plymouth Last game of the season Blackburn away at Leicester - that could be as tense as our own game v Leicester but the other way round for them back in 2008 Huddersfield away at Ipswich Sheff Weds away at Sunderland Brum home to Norwich All tough tough games Hopefully we are at least 4 points clear and can watch with popcorn.....
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Post by lordb on Apr 15, 2024 13:51:39 GMT
I've just been looking at the five match form of the clubs involved (from Millwall down to Sheff Wednesday) Here are the total points gained from those last 5 matches: Club : Pts Millwall : 7 Blackburn : 7 Plymouth : 7 QPR : 7 Stoke : 6 Birmingham : 6 Hudders : 5 Sheff Wednesday : 6 I'm not really sure what to make of that but it seems that no-one in it has really pulled away with an amazing run of form but nobody has collapsed either. Which is unusual most seasons at this time of the season someone goes on a bonkers winning run and someone (often more than 1 team) sinks just not gone that way
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Post by lordb on Apr 15, 2024 13:52:24 GMT
I've just been looking at the five match form of the clubs involved (from Millwall down to Sheff Wednesday) Here are the total points gained from those last 5 matches: Club : Pts Millwall : 7 Blackburn : 7 Plymouth : 7 QPR : 7 Stoke : 6 Birmingham : 6 Hudders : 5 Sheff Wednesday : 6 I'm not really sure what to make of that but it seems that no-one in it has really pulled away with an amazing run of form but nobody has collapsed either. Not beating Huddersfield home (which was expected after Hull) and away (having led the game and they were proper shite) and those 4 points would have made a massive difference! Still think win Saturday and we are fine Brum have to play Huddersfield Blackburn have to play Wednesday Stoke have to play Plymouth Last game of the season Blackburn away at Leicester - that could be as tense as our own game v Leicester but the other way round for them back in 2008 Huddersfield away at Ipswich Sheff Weds away at Sunderland Brum home to Norwich All tough tough games Hopefully we are at least 4 points clear and can watch with popcorn..... I think Blackburn and Millwall are safe now
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 15, 2024 13:56:59 GMT
Stoke City v Plymouth Argyle 3pm 20th April 2024. Losers will be relegated.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Apr 15, 2024 14:05:31 GMT
Stoke City v Plymouth Argyle 3pm 20th April 2024. Losers will be relegated. It'd be a hammer blow to lose this one however we could still beat Southampton and Bristol in theory. However I'd rather we went and beat Plymouth to calm me sen down...
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Post by lordb on Apr 15, 2024 14:07:16 GMT
Stoke City v Plymouth Argyle 3pm 20th April 2024. Losers will be relegated. I think Plymouth are safe probably given their GD Stoke need 1 win imo (or 3 draws I suppose)
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Post by swampmongrel on Apr 15, 2024 14:21:48 GMT
I've just been looking at the five match form of the clubs involved (from Millwall down to Sheff Wednesday) Here are the total points gained from those last 5 matches: Club : Pts Millwall : 7 Blackburn : 7 Plymouth : 7 QPR : 7 Stoke : 6 Birmingham : 6 Hudders : 5 Sheff Wednesday : 6 I'm not really sure what to make of that but it seems that no-one in it has really pulled away with an amazing run of form but nobody has collapsed either. Which is unusual most seasons at this time of the season someone goes on a bonkers winning run and someone (often more than 1 team) sinks just not gone that way Even if you look up the table the teams who are safe and we’re probs always safe who have very average points hauls from the last five matches. E.g. Swansea 7 points from 5 matches. One by one a series of rank average sides collapsing over the line. Hope we’re next.
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Post by Robo10 on Apr 15, 2024 14:29:27 GMT
Stoke City v Plymouth Argyle 3pm 20th April 2024. Losers will be relegated. Think Plymouths Goal Difference is decent - 2 points for them is enough from 3 games Huddersfield I think are in the shit Then its 1 of Sheff Weds who have a tough run in, us, Brum, Plymouth and dont discount QPR yet. Be a monumental collapse from Blackburn on 49 points, but 2 defeats next up would see Weds right on their tail and an away game at Leicester We have all watched the last day and games go down to the final minute of the season, just hoping we arent part of the excitement. On paper (which doesnt mean a lot at this point!) we have an OK 2 home games we would hope to win 1 at least A lot of them have to play each other so by the end of next weekend (27th) I think a lot of it will be settled providing there are positive results in the games - draws dont help anyone now unless Plymouth/Blackburn. Its sphincter clenchingly tight.
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Post by Robo10 on Apr 15, 2024 14:33:30 GMT
Just working out from my table
If (big if..) we win Sat, and Huddersfield/Weds both lose, we are safe unless there is a massive goal swing (50 points for us and a -16-18 GD, Hudd/Weds on 44pts with -23/-31 GD and worsening)
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 15, 2024 15:19:00 GMT
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 15, 2024 15:28:20 GMT
I can’t see beyond a win for both Huddersfield and Birmingham on Saturday. They both then play each other before having tough games on paper against Ipswich and Norwich respectively.
Christ, we really need to win against Plymouth 🙏
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 15, 2024 15:41:06 GMT
I can’t see beyond a win for both Huddersfield and Birmingham on Saturday. They both then play each other before having tough games on paper against Ipswich and Norwich respectively. Christ, we really need to win against Plymouth 🙏 Is possible but we shouldn't assume that teams at the bottom will win games because they have to Even if we pick up no points at all then is possible that neither Weds or Hudders will pass us...obviously we don't want that to happen. Be nice to put it to bed on Saturday though then we can relax with a Banana Nesquick and a Mini Roll.
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Post by lordb on Apr 15, 2024 16:14:25 GMT
I can’t see beyond a win for both Huddersfield and Birmingham on Saturday. They both then play each other before having tough games on paper against Ipswich and Norwich respectively. Christ, we really need to win against Plymouth 🙏 Huddersfield play Swansea at home Blues away at Rotherham > would expect Rotherham to lose yes , Huddersfield v Swansea not as obvious Probably want Blues to then beta or at least draw v Huddersfield
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 15, 2024 16:19:38 GMT
I can’t see beyond a win for both Huddersfield and Birmingham on Saturday. They both then play each other before having tough games on paper against Ipswich and Norwich respectively. Christ, we really need to win against Plymouth 🙏 Huddersfield play Swansea at home Blues away at Rotherham > would expect Rotherham to lose yes , Huddersfield v Swansea not as obvious Probably want Blues to then beta or at least draw v Huddersfield Not a great deal riding on it now for Swansea. Obviously we can never take anything for granted as the results over the weekend demonstrated, but I can see Huddersfield’s desperation for the win getting them over the line in this one. Massive game also at Blackburn where they play Sheffield Wednesday.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 15, 2024 16:32:28 GMT
Huddersfield play Swansea at home Blues away at Rotherham > would expect Rotherham to lose yes , Huddersfield v Swansea not as obvious Probably want Blues to then beta or at least draw v Huddersfield Not a great deal riding on it now for Swansea. Obviously we can never take anything for granted as the results over the weekend demonstrated, but I can see Huddersfield’s desperation for the win getting them over the line in this one. Massive game also at Blackburn where they play Sheffield Wednesday. Hudders at Ipswich last game and think is Leeds v Soton same time Doubt automatic will be sorted by then so plenty to play for there for Ipswich Didn't realised Brum were at Rotherham to be honest. Not guaranteed but a game you really want at this stage . Still think will be Hudders and Wednesday
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 15, 2024 16:36:18 GMT
Not a great deal riding on it now for Swansea. Obviously we can never take anything for granted as the results over the weekend demonstrated, but I can see Huddersfield’s desperation for the win getting them over the line in this one. Massive game also at Blackburn where they play Sheffield Wednesday. Hudders at Ipswich last game and think is Leeds v Soton same time Doubt automatic will be sorted by then so plenty to play for there for Ipswich Didn't realised Brum were at Rotherham to be honest. Not guaranteed but a game you really want at this stage . Still think will be Hudders and Wednesday QPR have a winnable game on Saturday against Preston but then finish off with two tough looking games. They aren’t out of the woods just yet.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 15, 2024 16:47:43 GMT
Hudders at Ipswich last game and think is Leeds v Soton same time Doubt automatic will be sorted by then so plenty to play for there for Ipswich Didn't realised Brum were at Rotherham to be honest. Not guaranteed but a game you really want at this stage . Still think will be Hudders and Wednesday QPR have a winnable game on Saturday against Preston but then finish off with two tough looking games. They aren’t out of the woods just yet. Don't think Wednesday and Hudders are capable of capable of getting the points to be honest. They prob both need 5 points from 9 to have any chance at all and might not be enough
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Post by premieraj on Apr 15, 2024 16:55:12 GMT
I don’t want to even look at the scenarios and just wait until Saturday where I will be feeling sick in the pit of my stomach before kick off.
Lose and I think it may be over. And over for me after 50 odd years I can’t do the third division again! I’m too old and five hour round trips are just too much! Nine holes of golf and a couple of beers 10 mins away. I’ll still always follow the scores and may be a glory hunter if we ever get back in my lifetime.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 15, 2024 17:03:51 GMT
I don’t want to even look at the scenarios and just wait until Saturday where I will be feeling sick in the pit of my stomach before kick off. Lose and I think it may be over. And over for me after 50 odd years I can’t do the third division again! I’m too old and five hour round trips are just too much! Nine holes of golf and a couple of beers 10 mins away. I’ll still always follow the scores and may be a glory hunter if we ever get back in my lifetime. On the positive side, lose and we still won't be in the bottom 3 with 2 to play. Would have taken that 5 weeks ago
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Post by premieraj on Apr 15, 2024 17:10:15 GMT
I don’t want to even look at the scenarios and just wait until Saturday where I will be feeling sick in the pit of my stomach before kick off. Lose and I think it may be over. And over for me after 50 odd years I can’t do the third division again! I’m too old and five hour round trips are just too much! Nine holes of golf and a couple of beers 10 mins away. I’ll still always follow the scores and may be a glory hunter if we ever get back in my lifetime. On the positive side, lose and we still won't be in the bottom 3 with 2 to play. Would have taken that 5 weeks ago True but really can’t see anything at Soton can you? Then it probably could be Akinbiyi last day of the season again if you can remember that….
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 15, 2024 17:14:52 GMT
On the positive side, lose and we still won't be in the bottom 3 with 2 to play. Would have taken that 5 weeks ago True but really can’t see anything at Soton can you? Then it probably could be Akinbiyi last day of the season again if you can remember that…. To be honest Impossible to predict games at the min. Wouldn't out be shocked us getting something at Soton but wouldn't want to be relying Yep, remember the Akinbiyi day well. Top many assumed the other result would go against us which I guess the norm in a relegation battle
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Post by swampmongrel on Apr 15, 2024 17:25:45 GMT
I don’t want to even look at the scenarios and just wait until Saturday where I will be feeling sick in the pit of my stomach before kick off. Lose and I think it may be over. And over for me after 50 odd years I can’t do the third division again! I’m too old and five hour round trips are just too much! Nine holes of golf and a couple of beers 10 mins away. I’ll still always follow the scores and may be a glory hunter if we ever get back in my lifetime. On the positive side, lose and we still won't be in the bottom 3 with 2 to play. Would have taken that 5 weeks ago I think 48 points (and not a bad GD) will be enough more likely than not. Mind I’d be bricking it on the final day if that’s our position.
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Post by poultonpotter on Apr 15, 2024 17:38:28 GMT
Everyone assumes we will lose to Southampton, but we are their 4th game in 12 days and they may have no chance of automatic by the time they play us, and should be safely in the playoffs.
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Post by leicspotter on Apr 15, 2024 17:46:46 GMT
Having seem what happened to Leicester and Leeds, predicting results remains as hard as winning the lottery
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Post by pipesurgeon on Apr 15, 2024 18:24:40 GMT
Schumacher knows 90% of Plymouths players he knows there strengths and weaknesses that should get us over the line shouldn't it ?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 17, 2024 9:40:00 GMT
Rotherham have sacked their manager and Steve Evans has joined with immediate effect, might give them a slight bounce for the Birmingham game at the weekend fingers crossed.......
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Post by gingerninja on Apr 17, 2024 9:52:33 GMT
Despite all the equations and scenarios, I think it's written in the stars, being Stoke, it will go to the last game of the season 😔.
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Post by gawa on Apr 17, 2024 12:54:02 GMT
Just working out from my table If (big if..) we win Sat, and Huddersfield/Weds both lose, we are safe unless there is a massive goal swing (50 points for us and a -16-18 GD, Hudd/Weds on 44pts with -23/-31 GD and worsening) There's 4 goals different between ourselves and Huddersfield. Our last 2 defeats have been by 3 goal margins. Huddersfield also have 6 more goals scored. I don't think it guarantees anything.
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Post by adri2008 on Apr 17, 2024 13:03:14 GMT
Could do with Leicester winning their game on 23rd April against Southampton. That would put Southampton's auto hopes to bed. Hopefully we'll just get the win against Plymouth and put us out of our misery.
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