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Post by caine on Feb 21, 2024 11:31:25 GMT
Good riddens to those who don't want to go anymore.... It's shit and and I understand due to cost of living if someone can't afford to go as much anymore but it's a awful excuse to stop going for long period of time due to success. Close the door on your way out..... You've not read the thread properly have you? Why do i need to? The title kind of give's it away and the 3 posts i saw on the end page summed up this topic! Thought I covered that in my last comment on no matter how shit we are its not really a excuse to give up but each to there own.
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Post by dobber on Feb 21, 2024 12:16:29 GMT
You've not read the thread properly have you? Why do i need to? The title kind of give's it away and the 3 posts i saw on the end page summed up this topic! Thought I covered that in my last comment on no matter how shit we are its not really a excuse to give up but each to there own. I assume you go every match home and away then? No one has said they are giving up, just potentially changing their commitment levels. IF I don't renew my ST, it doesn't mean I'll stop going entirely. I'll just pick and choose a bit more. There's lots of reasons why I might do this...not one of them changes my love for my football club.
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Post by caine on Feb 21, 2024 12:56:13 GMT
Why do i need to? The title kind of give's it away and the 3 posts i saw on the end page summed up this topic! Thought I covered that in my last comment on no matter how shit we are its not really a excuse to give up but each to there own. I assume you go every match home and away then? No one has said they are giving up, just potentially changing their commitment levels. IF I don't renew my ST, it doesn't mean I'll stop going entirely. I'll just pick and choose a bit more. There's lots of reasons why I might do this...not one of them changes my love for my football club. Think you are missing the point, not once mentioned amount of games anyone goes. Everyone has reasons why they don't go, be it money or family. I get that. What i don't get is giving it all up because we have been shit....
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Post by dobber on Feb 21, 2024 13:05:40 GMT
I assume you go every match home and away then? No one has said they are giving up, just potentially changing their commitment levels. IF I don't renew my ST, it doesn't mean I'll stop going entirely. I'll just pick and choose a bit more. There's lots of reasons why I might do this...not one of them changes my love for my football club. Think you are missing the point, not once mentioned amount of games anyone goes. Everyone has reasons why they don't go, be it money or family. I get that. What i don't get is giving it all up because we have been shit.... I think that's the reason another poster suggested you hadn't actually read the thread. The title is misleading - no one is suggesting they are giving up Stoke entirely, more their levels of commitment may be less. For many on here, that means decades long ST holders potentially not renewing, but picking and choosing when they go. Maybe read more and write a considered response than jumping in with lead boots.
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Post by superjw on Feb 21, 2024 13:19:03 GMT
Nobody should put themselves through making the effort of going to games home and away if the current situation is having such an impact on people mentally and emotionally. It’s unhealthy and is no good for you and families if weekends are getting ruined by the current shitshow on offer.
Football is not about that, it’s just a game at the end of the day - if that’s how some people feel then it’s time to take a break for the good of yourself, you can still be a supporter.
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Post by stokiekm on Feb 21, 2024 14:08:05 GMT
Good riddens to those who don't want to go anymore.... It's shit and and I understand due to cost of living if someone can't afford to go as much anymore but it's a awful excuse to stop going for long period of time due to success. Close the door on your way out..... [br Why do you feel the need to be disrespectful? How dare you say good riddance to some that have been lifelong fans and whom are perfectly entitled to make their decision without crap like your reply?
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Post by caine on Feb 21, 2024 14:25:46 GMT
Good riddens to those who don't want to go anymore.... It's shit and and I understand due to cost of living if someone can't afford to go as much anymore but it's a awful excuse to stop going for long period of time due to success. Close the door on your way out..... [br Why do you feel the need to be disrespectful? How dare you say good riddance to some that have been lifelong fans and whom are perfectly entitled to make their decision without crap like your reply? Never said they wasn't entitled but with all due respect for me not going because we are shit isn't really good support is it? Sorry this is board and everyone has different opinions but right now we need support more than ever. I respect anyone that has been going for years as nothing is cheap but I don't agree with giving up a ST because we are shit but that's your choice. Maybe it was a little harsh but lets be honest I have seen it at away games, some of our fans love moaning when things aren't going to plan.
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Post by wilcopotter on Feb 21, 2024 14:29:54 GMT
This is the way I feel, not sure whether I will renew yet, have had ST’s for several years at a time over the decades. Given them up for either financial reason or because I haven’t enjoyed going through the games “note- not when we’ve been shit”. It’s a personal choice. Anyway, if I decide not to renew this time, it will not because we are shit, it will because I’m pissed off of making half arsed shit players millionaires. Strange thing is, relegation wouldn’t be the reason. For me, this club needs to seriously sort itself out and I don’t mean stupid light shows and fanzines ( that would be empty anyway if we went down), I mean a someone rationally grabbing the tiller and a bit of steady progress instead of the usual ( Orange Juice) rip it up and start again every 12 months. Really not sure SS is the man, but he needs time even if his team selections are a bit batshit. That said, we don’t know what’s going on internally, despite all the rumour and speculation being spouted on here.
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Post by bunnyscfc on Feb 21, 2024 14:34:32 GMT
[br Why do you feel the need to be disrespectful? How dare you say good riddance to some that have been lifelong fans and whom are perfectly entitled to make their decision without crap like your reply? Never said they wasn't entitled but with all due respect for me not going because we are shit isn't really good support is it? Sorry this is board and everyone has different opinions but right now we need support more than ever. I respect anyone that has been going for years as nothing is cheap but I don't agree with giving up a ST because we are shit but that's your choice. Maybe it was a little harsh but lets be honest I have seen it at away games, some of our fans love moaning when things aren't going to plan. Just wondering how many different people and different posts have to tell you folk aren't giving up or thinking of it because of results - before the penny actually drops. Many will have seen far worse than what we are now. It's not about results. Not at all. I found quite a bit of our Premier League decade a bit beige to be honest.
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Post by stokebloke on Feb 21, 2024 15:14:29 GMT
What else are you gonna do on a Saturday? Sit in your fuckin' armchair wankin' off to Pop Idols? Then try and avoid your wife's gaze as you struggle to come to terms with your sexless marriage? Then go and spunk your wages on kebabs, fruit machines and brasses? Fuck that for a laugh! I know what I'd rather do. Sounds like a winner to me 👍 Barrow away, love it!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 21, 2024 15:18:16 GMT
Never said they wasn't entitled but with all due respect for me not going because we are shit isn't really good support is it? Sorry this is board and everyone has different opinions but right now we need support more than ever. I respect anyone that has been going for years as nothing is cheap but I don't agree with giving up a ST because we are shit but that's your choice. Maybe it was a little harsh but lets be honest I have seen it at away games, some of our fans love moaning when things aren't going to plan. Just wondering how many different people and different posts have to tell you folk aren't giving up or thinking of it because of results - before the penny actually drops. Many will have seen far worse than what we are now. It's not about results. Not at all. I found quite a bit of our Premier League decade a bit beige to be honest. The days that you yearn for have long gone mate due to age(mine too) and no amount of wishing it’s back will make it return.You get your fix now because of your connection to Leek but I personally would never dream about watching another team albeit non league or league.We start winning games again (which is what matters) then fans return,it’s quite simple really
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Post by pushon on Feb 21, 2024 15:47:37 GMT
I have to say, I was surprised again at another rushed,random Manager choice. I believe that Gally and Shawx would have had more chance of stabilising things and although I wouldn't have expected a miracle I don't think we'd be where we are now. It's all very odd. My matchday 'experience' of latter years has been to listen to the commentary via the Off. site and when I could stand it, watching, any televised games (from behind the sofa, through my hands) Even the former was totally ruined by that inept Radio 'Stoke' 'commentator'( I gave up listening altogether) so my disconnect was beginning to get even bigger. I will never understand why we would have those' 'false dawns'. Didn't matter which manager. You'd think a corner was being turned only to have that smacked back in your face a game or two later. Again, all very odd. Oh well.. Schumacher is not the manager though, he's the Head Coach. Imagine him as the Foreman and Gallagher as a supervisor.
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Post by leicspotter on Feb 21, 2024 18:50:56 GMT
I rather liken following Stoke to investing in the Stock Market. There are ups and downs, plenty of downs, and sometimes deep depressions, but I, like so many others, have invested (time) very heavily in this club and am not going to 'pull out' any time soon...maybe it's FOMO...just imagine NOT being there at Barnsley when MON started to turn things around. Thankfully match days are about so much more than the 90 odd minutes on the pitch...currently the actual football is the only bit of the day I don't usually enjoy, but you never know
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Post by Milkie on Feb 24, 2024 17:13:40 GMT
It would appear the players have as well ….
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Post by glpotter on Feb 24, 2024 17:14:41 GMT
Good on you who have given up
Save your money and your time.
Put it towards more important things in life
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Post by swampySCFC on Feb 24, 2024 17:22:45 GMT
I’ve been a supporter for 60 yrs most of it with a season ticket. I moved away 3 years ago and didn’t renew at that time. I’ve been back a couple of times but the team is a shadow of what I used to see even in some difficult times.
The decline has been sustained and monumental. I suspect the early bird process will be an eye opener because long term and short term supporters have had enough of unprofessional performances and poor excuses.
If people stay away it doesn’t mean they care any less or that they are not supporters. The criticism needs to be channeled elsewhere
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Post by tinofspam on Feb 24, 2024 17:35:59 GMT
The relationship analogy is more apposite than you may think. I think once you’re committed and time progresses extricating yourself from either a relationship or a football club becomes more and more difficult. It’s something you may have doubts about and even raise them from time to time but actually making that change is a big step, especially when you’re used to ups and downs already. Most of us didn’t even make much of a choice to follow football or Stoke; it was passed on to us or just there when we were growing up. Just don’t feel bad about taking a break, for however long it might be. Stoke will still be there in all their “glory” if or when you return, plodding on towards nothingness or maybe even with a ray of hope on the horizon. I’m sure a lot of people felt similar in 1989 and 1999 but look where we were in 2009. There’s undoubtedly more troughs than peaks with Stoke, sadly. Jesus, that was beautifully put, I salute you🫡
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Post by stokiespark on Feb 24, 2024 17:37:08 GMT
What else are you gonna do on a Saturday? Sit in your fuckin' armchair wankin' off to Pop Idols? Then try and avoid your wife's gaze as you struggle to come to terms with your sexless marriage? Then go and spunk your wages on kebabs, fruit machines and brasses? Fuck that for a laugh! I know what I'd rather do. Barrow away, love it! to be fair all that sounds much more attractive than Barrow away.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Feb 24, 2024 17:44:50 GMT
Not been able to go for the last two seasons but had season ticket on the off chance I'd be well enough to go. Norwich home one will be my first one for a long time. Understand the people who have had enough etc but the last two years has done me in watching on telly and I can't wait to get back down there however shit we are.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 24, 2024 18:11:29 GMT
Not been able to go for the last two seasons but had season ticket on the off chance I'd be well enough to go. Norwich home one will be my first one for a long time. Understand the people who have had enough etc but the last two years has done me in watching on telly and I can't wait to get back down there however shit we are. Hopefully you’ll be a good luck charm mate. If only the team had as much determination to overcome adversity as yourself. Great news you’re able to go again
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Feb 24, 2024 18:17:58 GMT
Not been able to go for the last two seasons but had season ticket on the off chance I'd be well enough to go. Norwich home one will be my first one for a long time. Understand the people who have had enough etc but the last two years has done me in watching on telly and I can't wait to get back down there however shit we are. Hopefully you’ll be a good luck charm mate. If only the team had as much determination to overcome adversity as yourself. Great news you’re able to go again I doubt I'll be a good luck charm mate if the last thirty five years have anything to go by 😅 Won't do any harm in trying to be one though at this stage. Thankyou mate it will mean the world it really will that day.
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Post by stokiekm on Feb 24, 2024 19:26:59 GMT
Not been able to go for the last two seasons but had season ticket on the off chance I'd be well enough to go. Norwich home one will be my first one for a long time. Understand the people who have had enough etc but the last two years has done me in watching on telly and I can't wait to get back down there however shit we are. Don't do it Worse than watching on tv, pisses you off even more when get to see live just how shit this team is
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Post by dadger on Feb 24, 2024 19:30:22 GMT
45 years I’ve been watching never ever felt so down it’s fucking awful
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Post by stokiekm on Feb 24, 2024 19:31:51 GMT
Thankfully I think I've done my last game this season, made the mistake of going to Leicester knowing it was going to be bad. Never expected us to simply give up though so fuck em, no more for me.That said, did ask the son if wants to go to one more as he's never chanted not fit to wear the shirt
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Feb 24, 2024 20:29:21 GMT
Not been able to go for the last two seasons but had season ticket on the off chance I'd be well enough to go. Norwich home one will be my first one for a long time. Understand the people who have had enough etc but the last two years has done me in watching on telly and I can't wait to get back down there however shit we are. Don't do it Worse than watching on tv, pisses you off even more when get to see live just how shit this team is Trust me mate after the last few years I've had nothing will make me happier than going to pub for a few before heading down to the ground whether we win or loose 👍
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 24, 2024 20:36:57 GMT
Don't do it Worse than watching on tv, pisses you off even more when get to see live just how shit this team is Trust me mate after the last few years I've had nothing will make me happier than going to pub for a few before heading down to the ground whether we win or loose 👍 Have a brilliant time mate and whatever you do make the most of it😉
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 24, 2024 20:41:11 GMT
Let's face it, supporting a football team is a just a bad idea if you want a nice, relaxed, stress-free lifestyle.
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Post by stokiekm on Feb 24, 2024 20:49:52 GMT
Don't do it Worse than watching on tv, pisses you off even more when get to see live just how shit this team is Trust me mate after the last few years I've had nothing will make me happier than going to pub for a few before heading down to the ground whether we win or loose 👍 I can't do that bit to soften the disappointment, live near Leicester now. Just get the pleasure of 1.5hours miserable journey back
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Feb 24, 2024 20:52:50 GMT
Trust me mate after the last few years I've had nothing will make me happier than going to pub for a few before heading down to the ground whether we win or loose 👍 I can't do that bit to soften the disappointment, live near Leicester now. Just get the pleasure of 1.5hours miserable journey back A miserable 1.5 hours back mate is not the worst thing in the world. Respect if you don't want to go but I do 👍
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Feb 24, 2024 20:54:24 GMT
Trust me mate after the last few years I've had nothing will make me happier than going to pub for a few before heading down to the ground whether we win or loose 👍 Have a brilliant time mate and whatever you do make the most of it😉 I will do Badge 👍 We probably will loose but fuck me that moment of doing it again has kept me going at times.
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