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Post by Eggybread on Feb 15, 2024 12:32:31 GMT
Just a thought is there a single player over the last couple of seasons who has actually escaped the wrath of this board? It doesnt seem to take long before individuals make a decision on a player and let it be known,on average it seems to take 45 mins.
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Post by jebbstuart on Feb 15, 2024 12:53:13 GMT
Perhaps because most of the players we have had recently are average jo's or you have to ask yourself how we actually got to sign them in the first place. Very few i can think of only two who so far this season have been above a 5 out of ten in their performances.
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Post by idle on Feb 15, 2024 13:31:48 GMT
Of course not, even Burger was shite on here in August/September
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Post by superpotter on Feb 15, 2024 13:35:24 GMT
Thatβs because itβs full football experts on here Good game = heading for the prem wonβt be able to keep hold of him Bad game = Sell him heβs shit league 2 player π
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Feb 15, 2024 14:48:41 GMT
All the players from the youth team who make only a handful of appearances in the first team squad and then move on to careers in the lower leagues.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 16, 2024 11:13:15 GMT
I've never heard a bad word about that lad Matthews from a while back and the other lad in goal Banksie π
Oh and super David Rowson of course, club leg end.
On a serious note I don't think Fuller got much grief other than for being late all the time π
But I get your point over the last few seasons. To be fair moral all round the club is through the floor. People are grumpy so they moan more.
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Post by foster on Feb 16, 2024 11:14:15 GMT
Bonham
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Post by silsdenstokie on Feb 16, 2024 11:21:43 GMT
Dont recall Junior and Junho getting much if any
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 16, 2024 11:30:23 GMT
I don't know why people get so precious about other people's opinions on players.
It's a bloody forum, for opinions.
One of the most childish and pompous things we get on this board is when a player has a decent game and some folk pile in taking the piss out of others who criticised the player a few weeks back, flagging up old posts, making out that they are somehow superior in their opinions. The 'I always said he was decent' type posts!
I got the piss taken out of me for questioning Mmaee earlier in the season. That's fine, don't mind but didn't half show up some people to be conceited and childishly arrogant in their approach to others.
It's ok to be wrong, its ok to change your mind, its ok to get frustrated and angry with the club and players, but don't make out you are right all of the time, and your opinions are better than others.
I don't think it's remotely a problem that all our players have at some time been criticised on here, you would probably get similar on a Man City forum too.
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Post by davethebass on Feb 16, 2024 11:32:06 GMT
When I saw the thread title I thought it said onions. I thought it was another Burger thread
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Post by Scrotnig on Feb 16, 2024 11:40:03 GMT
What's funny is, we sign someone, they are given a first game almost immediately when they can barely have even met the rest of the team. When they don't set the league alight in the first ten minutes of that game, they are dismissed as being shite. I do sort of understand where this comes from, and it's because we have signed so much shite in the past few years. But sometimes you have to be a bit patient. At least wait until the second half before slagging them off
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 16, 2024 11:44:25 GMT
Of course not, even Burger was shite on here in August/September A cross between Rodney Trotter and Stephen Merchant I called himπ€£ Happy to eat humble pie
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Feb 16, 2024 11:47:38 GMT
Of course not, even Burger was shite on here in August/September A cross between Rodney Trotter and Stephen Merchant I called himπ€£ Happy to eat humble pie I think Rodney suits him more and he would look great with the fake ponytail that Rodders once clipped onto his hair π
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Post by davethebass on Feb 16, 2024 11:47:57 GMT
Of course not, even Burger was shite on here in August/September A cross between Rodney Trotter and Stephen Merchant I called himπ€£ Happy to eat humble pie I remember that! I'd forgot it was you though. Well done for owning it
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Post by lordb on Feb 16, 2024 12:08:17 GMT
I've never heard a bad word about that lad Matthews from a while back and the other lad in goal Banksie π Oh and super David Rowson of course, club leg end. On a serious note I don't think Fuller got much grief other than for being late all the time π But I get your point over the last few seasons. To be fair moral all round the club is through the floor. People are grumpy so they moan more. On the contrary when I was a kid heard many an old Stoke fan criticise Sir Stan 'lazy' 'too interested in money' an the view that Franklin was a better player was pretty much unanimous
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Post by nottsover60 on Feb 16, 2024 12:27:21 GMT
I've never heard a bad word about that lad Matthews from a while back and the other lad in goal Banksie π Oh and super David Rowson of course, club leg end. On a serious note I don't think Fuller got much grief other than for being late all the time π But I get your point over the last few seasons. To be fair moral all round the club is through the floor. People are grumpy so they moan more. On the contrary when I was a kid heard many an old Stoke fan criticise Sir Stan 'lazy' 'too interested in money' an the view that Franklin was a better player was pretty much unanimous Fuller also got his fair share - offside cos he's just walking back, should have chased that, doesn't get back and help the defence, lazy.
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 16, 2024 12:30:33 GMT
What would people talk about on this SCFC message board if not the players? Maybe the Barton thread would be over 100 pages by now, I suppose.
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 16, 2024 12:31:59 GMT
On the contrary when I was a kid heard many an old Stoke fan criticise Sir Stan 'lazy' 'too interested in money' an the view that Franklin was a better player was pretty much unanimous Fuller also got his fair share - offside cos he's just walking back, should have chased that, doesn't get back and help the defence, lazy.Β Offside because you are walking back is a pretty reasonable criticism to be fair.
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Post by nottsover60 on Feb 16, 2024 12:40:19 GMT
Fuller also got his fair share - offside cos he's just walking back, should have chased that, doesn't get back and help the defence, lazy. Offside because you are walking back is a pretty reasonable criticism to be fair. Agree and it was his way of playing but sometimes he had gone on a gut busting run, beating players, having a shot cleared and ending up in the hoardings. The clearance would go to a Stoke player who would put it back into the box but Fuller was offside. I think he would be much better these days with the not interfering with play and second phase rules. Just as Kane does he could be offside initially and then be ahead of the defenders for the cross. He used to get dog's abuse though in his day for being offside.
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Post by jokker on Feb 16, 2024 12:41:14 GMT
Dont recall Junior and Junho getting much if any Maybe not, but that didn't stop someone from going "Junho should never play for Stoke again". I sometimes think when that particular line comes out, and it often does, it's a backhanded way of saying, 'you're a real Stoke player now. Bloody useless.'
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 16, 2024 12:56:53 GMT
I've never heard a bad word about that lad Matthews from a while back and the other lad in goal Banksie π Oh and super David Rowson of course, club leg end. On a serious note I don't think Fuller got much grief other than for being late all the time π But I get your point over the last few seasons. To be fair moral all round the club is through the floor. People are grumpy so they moan more. On the contrary when I was a kid heard many an old Stoke fan criticise Sir Stan 'lazy' 'too interested in money' an the view that Franklin was a better player was pretty much unanimous Good job we didn't have the oatcake back then π I'm far to young to remember Stan or Gordon playing to be fair.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Feb 16, 2024 13:16:19 GMT
I love it when someone (like Thompson, just for arguments sake) has a good game, and people start saying things like, "he should be starting every game" "he should be our new left back" Blah, blah, blah, ya know, words to that effect......
Then he has a poor game, and then people are ripping him apart, saying "he should be nowhere near the first team"!!! π
Then there's bayern, he's in a league of his own!!!
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Post by jokker on Feb 16, 2024 13:19:09 GMT
I don't know why people get so precious about other people's opinions on players. It's a bloody forum, for opinions. One of the most childish and pompous things we get on this board is when a player has a decent game and some folk pile taking the piss out of others who criticised the player a few weeks back, flagging up old posts, making out that they are somehow superior in their opinions. The 'I always said he was decent' type posts! I got the piss taken out of me for questioning Mmaee earlier in the season. That's fine, don't mind but didn't half show up some people to be conceited and childishly arrogant in their approach to others. It's ok to be wrong, its ok to change your mind, its ok to get frustrated and angry with the club and players, but don't make out you are right all of the time, and your opinions are better than others. I don't think it's remotely a problem that all our players have at some time been criticised on here, you would probably get similar on a Man City forum too. You probably would, especially with all the young players they're trying to introduce, some never heard of again. But somehow I can't see 150+ pages on 'Guardiola must go' pop up there...
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 16, 2024 13:25:04 GMT
What's funny is, we sign someone, they are given a first game almost immediately when they can barely have even met the rest of the team. When they don't set the league alight in the first ten minutes of that game, they are dismissed as being shite. I do sort of understand where this comes from, and it's because we have signed so much shite in the past few years. But sometimes you have to be a bit patient. At least wait until the second half before slagging them off nice point...... and of course if they are shit in their fist game, it's surely ok to say it as it is, i.e 'they were shit' which is of course different from writing a player off. I don't think everyone is always able to make a distinction on here. When I made a post 4-5 games in, about Mmaee and Vidigal looking a bit lightweight and would probably need time to adapt to this level, I was slated for writing them off, which I clearly wasn't. I don't mind being slated by the way, its just a bit annoying when folk comment on stuff when they don't seem to have really grasped the point.
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 16, 2024 13:29:35 GMT
I don't know why people get so precious about other people's opinions on players. It's a bloody forum, for opinions. One of the most childish and pompous things we get on this board is when a player has a decent game and some folk pile taking the piss out of others who criticised the player a few weeks back, flagging up old posts, making out that they are somehow superior in their opinions. The 'I always said he was decent' type posts! I got the piss taken out of me for questioning Mmaee earlier in the season. That's fine, don't mind but didn't half show up some people to be conceited and childishly arrogant in their approach to others. It's ok to be wrong, its ok to change your mind, its ok to get frustrated and angry with the club and players, but don't make out you are right all of the time, and your opinions are better than others. I don't think it's remotely a problem that all our players have at some time been criticised on here, you would probably get similar on a Man City forum too. You probably would, especially with all the young players they're trying to introduce, some never heard of again. But somehow I can't see 150+ pages on 'Guardiola must go' pop up there... Man City is an extreme example, they haven't got much to complain about, but even there, just check on their forum when (in the very rare instances) they don't win a couple of games, the mood soon changes!
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Post by silsdenstokie on Feb 16, 2024 16:03:40 GMT
I love it when someone (like Thompson, just for arguments sake) has a good game, and people start saying things like, "he should be starting every game" "he should be our new left back" Blah, blah, blah, ya know, words to that effect...... Then he has a poor game, and then people are ripping him apart, saying "he should be nowhere near the first team"!!! π Then there's bayern, he's in a league of his own!!! Yeah it goes from one extreme to the other very quickly on here!
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Feb 16, 2024 16:36:40 GMT
On the contrary when I was a kid heard many an old Stoke fan criticise Sir Stan 'lazy' 'too interested in money' an the view that Franklin was a better player was pretty much unanimous Good job we didn't have the oatcake back then π I'm far to young to remember Stan or Gordon playing to be fair. Not my opinion but a lady I used to work with, her Uncle played for Stoke with Stan and he claimed he was money mad and the reason he left. Obviously the dispute etc with the manager the fans would rather hear as money not a popular opinion as people adored him and wouldn't hear a bad word. I think was a salary cap but he got a nice signing on fee and never had to pay for anything in Blackpool. Did he have a guest house there or something? I showed her one of those books on Stoke's history to her once and he was a prominent player for us for many years, must try and dig out who he was , sure was an Alsager fella. May have been jealousy of course and some of the players were bitter as he left at a vital time of course but she claimed he had a reputation of going into furniture shops etc and not expecting to pay for things and in Blackpool he did it everywhere and was free to do so. Anyway just what her Uncle claimed, she lives in Haslington, will find out who he was a while back she told me Obviously not a thing many will want to hear. The one thing that does baffles me is , even if you were having a dispute with the manager, why leave them no matter how bad it was?
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Post by mrnovember on Feb 16, 2024 17:29:45 GMT
Other than Powell, Souttar, Burger and Bae I can't think of a single other player that I've looked forward to seeing on the team sheet since relegation. Honourable mentions to Fletch and Collins and maybe Baker, but only just.
The rest have been just really uninspiring players who occasionally put in a decent showing. It's not hard to justify the criticisms.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 16, 2024 17:30:03 GMT
Good job we didn't have the oatcake back then π I'm far to young to remember Stan or Gordon playing to be fair. Not my opinion but a lady I used to work with, her Uncle played for Stoke with Stan and he claimed he was money mad and the reason he left. Obviously the dispute etc with the manager the fans would rather hear as money not a popular opinion as people adored him and wouldn't hear a bad word. I think was a salary cap but he got a nice signing on fee and never had to pay for anything in Blackpool. Did he have a guest house there or something? I showed her one of those books on Stoke's history to her once and he was a prominent player for us for many years, must try and dig out who he was , sure was an Alsager fella. May have been jealousy of course and some of the players were bitter as he left at a vital time of course but she claimed he had a reputation of going into furniture shops etc and not expecting to pay for things and in Blackpool he did it everywhere and was free to do so. Anyway just what her Uncle claimed, she lives in Haslington, will find out who he was a while back she told me Obviously not a thing many will want to hear. The one thing that does baffles me is , even if you were having a dispute with the manager, why leave them no matter how bad it was? I guess its like many stories in that there is always two or sometimes 3 sides to a story. I've read a biography on him some years back. Dont know the author or how many biographies have been done but I don't recall it trying to hint Stan was at fault for leaving. More that the club needed the money and didn't think Stan leaving would ruin our title chances that season. I've never given it much thought since but I guess if he'd stayed we'd have had a better chance to win the league that year. Not much we can do know I guess and I'm glad he's remembered for being a Stoke player rather than a Blackpool player. Even though he won the FA Cup with them.....the gits π
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Feb 16, 2024 17:56:43 GMT
Not my opinion but a lady I used to work with, her Uncle played for Stoke with Stan and he claimed he was money mad and the reason he left. Obviously the dispute etc with the manager the fans would rather hear as money not a popular opinion as people adored him and wouldn't hear a bad word. I think was a salary cap but he got a nice signing on fee and never had to pay for anything in Blackpool. Did he have a guest house there or something? I showed her one of those books on Stoke's history to her once and he was a prominent player for us for many years, must try and dig out who he was , sure was an Alsager fella. May have been jealousy of course and some of the players were bitter as he left at a vital time of course but she claimed he had a reputation of going into furniture shops etc and not expecting to pay for things and in Blackpool he did it everywhere and was free to do so. Anyway just what her Uncle claimed, she lives in Haslington, will find out who he was a while back she told me Obviously not a thing many will want to hear. The one thing that does baffles me is , even if you were having a dispute with the manager, why leave them no matter how bad it was? I guess its like many stories in that there is always two or sometimes 3 sides to a story. I've read a biography on him some years back. Dont know the author or how many biographies have been done but I don't recall it trying to hint Stan was at fault for leaving. More that the club needed the money and didn't think Stan leaving would ruin our title chances that season. I've never given it much thought since but I guess if he'd stayed we'd have had a better chance to win the league that year. Not much we can do know I guess and I'm glad he's remembered for being a Stoke player rather than a Blackpool player. Even though he won the FA Cup with them.....the gits π Didn't he ask for a transfer more than once though? Apparently was keen to join Blackpool. I think he's very much associated with Blackpool despite not being there as long as Stoke of course but more to do with the Cup final. Not as much as us obviously
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