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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Feb 10, 2024 21:33:49 GMT
Can see it turning nasty on Wednesday if things go wrong
No home win since Leeds and on the back of 2 shocking performances
Please win
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Post by Orbs on Feb 10, 2024 21:42:36 GMT
Ask the question - how the actual fuck has it taken this long for our support to decide enough is enough? Granted, nobody wants to be part of it, but it’s long overdue. The club is in dire straits Mmaae for nothing and Tyresse for free
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Post by danceswithclams on Feb 10, 2024 22:01:06 GMT
Nope. Dancingwithclams has said that they doesn’t understand why fans are so accepting, so I was wondering what their active rejection looked like. I was just being an argumentative so-and-so 😂 I've not renewed my season ticket this year after a 20+ year unbroken run (and after holding one since 1991 apart from 2 seasons during which I was employed by a Premier League club). I also have no intention of attending again until the Coates clan no longer own the club. Is that a good enough explanation?
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Post by stokieinlondon on Feb 10, 2024 22:02:58 GMT
I’m fortunate to be able to get to pretty much go to most Stoke matches home and away. Within ten minutes I said to my 13 yr old lad, it’s a horrible atmosphere today. To many people there today with a very aggressive, negative and abusive attitude, it was like they wanted it to happen. Strange Fortunate?
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Post by shrewspotter on Feb 10, 2024 22:03:43 GMT
Can see it turning nasty on Wednesday if things go wrong No home win since Leeds and on the back of 3 shocking performances Please win corrected....you forgot Sunderland
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 10, 2024 22:04:40 GMT
Nope. Dancingwithclams has said that they doesn’t understand why fans are so accepting, so I was wondering what their active rejection looked like. I was just being an argumentative so-and-so 😂 I've not renewed my season ticket this year after a 20+ year unbroken run (and after holding one since 1991 apart from 2 seasons during which I was employed by a Premier League club). I also have no intention of attending again until the Coates clan no longer own the club. Is that a good enough explanation? They aren’t going anywhere
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Feb 10, 2024 22:15:09 GMT
There were supposedly two out of form teams out there today, and we lost the game in the first half alone.... They looked way ahead of us for an out of form team!!!
Personally, I understand the fans frustration!!!
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Feb 10, 2024 22:15:32 GMT
Wait till QPR score on Wednesday
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Feb 10, 2024 22:40:56 GMT
Can see it turning nasty on Wednesday if things go wrong No home win since Leeds and on the back of 3 shocking performances Please win corrected....you forgot Sunderland 👍 Have had 6 haircuts since then so understandable
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Post by redwhitesingfight on Feb 10, 2024 22:53:40 GMT
I’m fortunate to be able to get to pretty much go to most Stoke matches home and away. Within ten minutes I said to my 13 yr old lad, it’s a horrible atmosphere today. To many people there today with a very aggressive, negative and abusive attitude, it was like they wanted it to happen. Strange Oh dear. It’s about fuckin time.
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Post by LGH87 on Feb 10, 2024 22:58:36 GMT
Nope. Dancingwithclams has said that they doesn’t understand why fans are so accepting, so I was wondering what their active rejection looked like. I was just being an argumentative so-and-so 😂 I've not renewed my season ticket this year after a 20+ year unbroken run (and after holding one since 1991 apart from 2 seasons during which I was employed by a Premier League club). I also have no intention of attending again until the Coates clan no longer own the club. Is that a good enough explanation? Remember when we filmed that ad? The sky seemed the least of our expectations
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Post by callas12 on Feb 10, 2024 23:12:00 GMT
We've tried full on supporting the team even when the spectacle on show hasnt been great.
There's been matches at home in particular where the atmospheres been either dull or muted to the point I go home begrudgingly humming opposition songs in my head for the rest of the eve.
But folk have had enough now & the chants whilst appearing more personal & directed are not really surprising I'm afraid to say. It's been coming for a good year or two now and after another summer of false promises and false hope, fans acceptance levels have reached their limits now.. The rinse and repeat mentality has ran its course & fans are feeling that a more directed approach whilst not necessarily being helpful, at least puts it out there we're not prepared to keep going through this shenanigans when it's costing fans time & money they could be better spending elsewhere. Watching Stoke in the actual match on an away game now is for most the worst actual part of the day! Fans are actually enjoying the travel and pre game socialising more than they are the actual footy match, that's never right!
I personally didn't sing 'you're not fit to wear the shirt' today but I can totally understand why people were. For me it's not conducive & either whacks the players confidence even lower, or gives them & the club as a whole a stick to beat the fans with. Granted if ever there was a time for it to start being sung its now due to some abysmal performances and results, but I do also understand the point the OP is trying to make. When it gets to the point fans are turning on each other & becoming angry with one another, this isn't the right way for passions and expressions to be voiced or vented. I guess the worry is that singing such a chant is quite indiscriminate and we've got to hope that this framed song doesn't affect the characters of those players, limited as they may be who are giving their all for the shirt/club! That's the main concern amd worry for me.
I was chatting to a couple of ladies on the coach on the way home and they were saying that some lad literally launched at them in their faces with a tirade of abuse when they'd literally just turned around to the row behind & asked the lads to tone it down abit as they literally being deafened by the constant negative abuse and vitoral being shouted. To be turning on fellow fans in this way isn't the answer and I'm guessing this the type of anger the OP is referring to. These ladies didn't mind the singing or shouting, but they did disapprove of it being constant and relentless & repetitive.
In summery for me, the fans are never going to all agree on the best way of expressing our displeasure. & some ways of doing it are going to appear harsh and abit over the top. But when everyone's had enough these emotions are going to get stirred & we've just got to hope that things pick up quite quickly to at least see us safe for this season being the main priority. Sadly if not, peoples thresholds have been well and truly shot to pieces and fans dispair will most likely turn even more sour!
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Post by robinplumpton on Feb 10, 2024 23:30:11 GMT
Cannot condone the aggression towards fellow supporters ( sufferers) and firmly believe the shower of shit wearing the shirt, deserve the “Your not fit to wear the shirt”, but, in the interest of balance, we should also direct the chant Of “Your not fit to run a bath” in the direction of the directors box.
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Post by rambo61 on Feb 11, 2024 0:17:38 GMT
Didnt agree with having a go at Burger cause he tries to defend the team in interviews after the match. Think he misread the mood today..came across clapping but it was only ever going to become ugly. Johnson stayed on the half way line like the coward he is... Burger at least has bollocks!
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Feb 11, 2024 0:25:51 GMT
Good, four years too late.
I’m just done with football and how this club is ran, I can’t be arsed anymore.
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Feb 11, 2024 0:35:01 GMT
Didnt agree with having a go at Burger cause he tries to defend the team in interviews after the match. Think he misread the mood today..came across clapping but it was only ever going to become ugly. Johnson stayed on the half way line like the coward he is... Burger at least has bollocks! Johnson stayed on the half way line with his coat zipped up and hood up no doubt mulling over his pathetic penalty kick. Baker should have taken that pen had he been on. Burger got the brunt of the fans anger unfortunately..
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Post by doctortheopolis on Feb 11, 2024 1:08:37 GMT
This is no doubt a culmination of being toss for the last 7-8 years but I think the edge has now come because people can see that we are actually in real danger of going down now. We've just been pissing around in the sea of mediocrity for the last few years but this is the year where we could actually drown.
The stoke support of the late 80s and 90s would never have put up with this shit and subsequently ended up driving the Coates family out. I'm not saying this is the answer but it's a different world now with most discontent being expressed online instead of on Boothen Old Road or the West Stand car park. It's a fine line between the wrong type of aggression and venting but it's no bad thing that people seem to be waking up to the perilous position our club is in.
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Post by callas12 on Feb 11, 2024 1:24:18 GMT
This is no doubt a culmination of being toss for the last 7-8 years but I think the edge has now come because people can see that we are actually in real danger of going down now. We've just been pissing around in the sea of mediocrity for the last few years but this is the year where we could actually drown. The stoke support of the late 80s and 90s would never have put up with this shit and subsequently ended up driving the Coates family out. I'm not saying this is the answer but it's a different world now with most discontent being expressed online instead of on Boothen Old Road or the West Stand car park. It's a fine line between the wrong type of aggression and venting but it's no bad thing that people seem to be waking up to the perilous position our club is in. We (or should I say the owners) sleep walked ourselves into the Championship some 7 or so years ago now & we were repeatedly told lessons would be learnt straight afterwards & ever since. The exact same thing's happening now & the supporters of this great club are rightly speaking up in a vein attempt to stop it happening again & us sliding away towards and into League 1! Are we as fans to just sit there and take it whilst sitting on our hands so to speak. Perhaps singing our concerns won't make a jot of difference, but nothing else is working or has worked since our last relegation, the club has regressed & the fans are at least trying to make the players, Management and most importantly the hieracy aware that this is happening & to wake up. Coz believe it or not, recent history has shown they clearly think it won't happen, even when it's happening in front of their very eyes. Throwing money at an issue can only get you so far.. & how much you spend and what you do with that money is the important thing, as are the choices the person at the top makes.
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Post by NassauDave on Feb 11, 2024 3:32:53 GMT
I’m fortunate to be able to get to pretty much go to most Stoke matches home and away. Within ten minutes I said to my 13 yr old lad, it’s a horrible atmosphere today. To many people there today with a very aggressive, negative and abusive attitude, it was like they wanted it to happen. Strange what is up with people?!! years and years of shit and a team that visibly don’t give a fuck and you call out those who’ve spent good money travelling to watch that shit. People have had a enough!! I certainly have had enough. Well said.
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Post by coomerson on Feb 11, 2024 7:46:56 GMT
The problem is they’re scared. And if I was playing and the crowds tuned like that, and I knew I was off to a parent/other club in 3 months I’d probably not give 100% either. Because this time next year I’d be playing elsewhere and SCFC fans would be watching league 1. It would be a players way of putting two fingers up.
I know it can’t/wont happen but a better option is 20k people cheering every Stoke tackle, positive contribution. But it’s impossible to do that watching players standing still.
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Post by stokiesteve on Feb 11, 2024 7:57:54 GMT
I hope it carries on at home.
There needs to be some passion and aggression from the fans to fire up the players.
It’s time we woke up and intervened instead of sitting around accepting this shit.
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Post by generationex on Feb 11, 2024 10:01:04 GMT
How is aggression directed at their own team going to help? This lot are not the sort to be fired up to prove you wrong.
Equally it’s hard to support them when so many don’t seem to care but I don’t think we’ve got a choice.
Somehow we have to pull together to try and survive before the(next) clear out can begin.
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Post by roylandstoke on Feb 11, 2024 10:09:41 GMT
Fan’s reaction to awful performances is understandable but not helpful.
The team don’t deserve any support right now, nevertheless it is our job to give it.
If you can’t offer support, then stay away and do something you enjoy instead.
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Post by bunnyscfc on Feb 11, 2024 10:10:43 GMT
The hierarchy can't motivate them The management can't motivate them They can't motivate themselves Sorry, but they deserve all the stick that they are getting and will get. I don't give a shiny shit if it hurts or offends them. If it does, perhaps they could work in a job where they aren't wasting the time and money of thousands of others? Really wish folk would stop sticking up for shithouses on and off the pitch. The club is dying in front of us and apathy will kill it, not vitriol.
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Post by bertiestan on Feb 11, 2024 10:14:30 GMT
Common sense is needed I’d say here…with the current feeling there’s absolutely no way I’d entertain taking my young un, especially away! I may get pelters for this but it can’t surprise you that it’s turned toxic…it’s not just about this season it’s about the last 6.
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Post by worcsstokie15 on Feb 11, 2024 10:18:15 GMT
Don’t agree with the ‘you’re not fit to wear the shirt’ chants but I can understand them considering current form and the past 6 seasons.
However, the singing of ‘You scouse bastard, get out of our club’ was an absolute disgrace and I was ashamed to share a stand with those singing that.
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Post by thornestein on Feb 11, 2024 10:22:23 GMT
Don’t agree with the ‘you’re not fit to wear the shirt’ chants but I can understand them considering current form and the past 6 seasons. However, the singing of ‘You scouse bastard, get out of our club’ was an absolute disgrace and I was ashamed to share a stand with those singing that. was that really sang ? , if so was it many ?
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Post by st3mark on Feb 11, 2024 10:29:38 GMT
My advice sadly, would be to leave the kids at home for the rest of the season.
Failure to win the next two home games will drop us so far into the relegation battle we will be in a black hole that this squad hasn't got the balls to get back out of. Lose these games and it will be 1997 level toxic every week.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 11, 2024 10:29:50 GMT
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 11, 2024 10:31:12 GMT
Don’t agree with the ‘you’re not fit to wear the shirt’ chants but I can understand them considering current form and the past 6 seasons. However, the singing of ‘You scouse bastard, get out of our club’ was an absolute disgrace and I was ashamed to share a stand with those singing that. was that really sang ? , if so was it many ? Never heard the scouse song, but “you’re not fit to wear the shirt” was sang out loud and clear after the second and third goals.
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