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Post by clarkeda on Feb 3, 2024 19:31:41 GMT
But let’s be clear, that wasn’t great today. Having said that, I don’t think the championship will have a team that good in it for a while.
So, how do we get out of where we are?
I’ve no idea what’s gone on with Mmaee, but there’s no way we can get to the end of the season and stay up and score enough goals with an uncommitted Campbell, Ennis fitness concerns, Lowe’s inexperience and Wesley absence PLUS whatever is going on with Mmaee irrespective of what’s gone on and your opinion of him.
Hard to drag the manager over coals when we don’t know the true extent of what’s gone on.
He absolutely needs to sort the defence out. That includes dropping Hoever and hopefully getting Steven’s fit and play Junior for fuck sake
Pearson can fuck himself. We have to play Bae, Burger and one other. I’d say Baker, but I think it’d leave us way too open.
Hopefully million is just that, one in a million and can help drag us up the pitch and be a decent ball carrier, as everyone we have is shit scared of it. I’m hopeful his pace will create space for the midfield and forwards or at least teams double up on him to create space.
Surely we’ve got enough to get out of this and Sunderland was a poor game (which happens) and today was a freak result and shouldn’t define our season.
We do need to start picking up some wins though.
Steve, stick to your guns don’t fall into the trap of every manager here who falls under pressure, shits themselves and goes against everything they know. Stop worrying about the opposition and figure out ways you can create opportunities with the players we’ve got to hurt opposition teams.
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Post by stokiemarc on Feb 3, 2024 19:42:09 GMT
People need to calm down. We played a team that punish today and unfortunately we lost the game in the first half with a poor decision and then poor defending. We've more than enough to stay up and I'd bet we'll finish about Plymouth this season.
Next Week:
Iverson
Junior
Rose
McNally
Gooch
Burger
Cundle
Bae
Million
Ennis
Campbell
Strong side that is. If Ty isn't interested then pop Haks/Vidigal there instead.
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Post by clarkeda on Feb 3, 2024 19:48:49 GMT
People need to calm down. We played a team that punish today and unfortunately we lost the game in the first half with a poor decision and then poor defending. We've more than enough to stay up and I'd bet we'll finish about Plymouth this season. Next Week: Iverson Junior Rose McNally Gooch Burger Cundle Bae Million Ennis Campbell Strong side that is. If Ty isn't interested then pop Haks/Vidigal there instead. Only player we disagree on is Cundle. I think I’d play Thompson for abit more bite in midfield, then look to bring Cundle on for Bae if we’re winning or Thompson if we’re not. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 3, 2024 19:48:56 GMT
People need to calm down. We played a team that punish today and unfortunately we lost the game in the first half with a poor decision and then poor defending. We've more than enough to stay up and I'd bet we'll finish about Plymouth this season. Next Week: Iverson Junior Rose McNally Gooch Burger Cundle Bae Million Ennis Campbell Strong side that is. If Ty isn't interested then pop Haks/Vidigal there instead. Agreed. But forget Campbell. He's no use to Stoke whatsoever. And he's only still here because we've got ourselves in such a hole. He's a lazy cart horse. Fat and lazy in fact |
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Post by wrexhamstokie90 on Feb 3, 2024 19:50:36 GMT
People need to calm down. We played a team that punish today and unfortunately we lost the game in the first half with a poor decision and then poor defending. We've more than enough to stay up and I'd bet we'll finish about Plymouth this season. Next Week: Iverson Junior Rose McNally Gooch Burger Cundle Bae Million Ennis Campbell Strong side that is. If Ty isn't interested then pop Haks/Vidigal there instead. Ty has never been interested why would he next week? |
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Post by GrahamHyde on Feb 3, 2024 19:51:02 GMT
People need to calm down. We played a team that punish today and unfortunately we lost the game in the first half with a poor decision and then poor defending. We've more than enough to stay up and I'd bet we'll finish about Plymouth this season. Next Week: Iverson Junior Rose McNally Gooch Burger Cundle Bae Million Ennis Campbell Strong side that is. If Ty isn't interested then pop Haks/Vidigal there instead. We lost the game when the team was announced at 2pm mate. Therein lies the bigger problem. |
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Post by stokiemarc on Feb 3, 2024 19:51:42 GMT
People need to calm down. We played a team that punish today and unfortunately we lost the game in the first half with a poor decision and then poor defending. We've more than enough to stay up and I'd bet we'll finish about Plymouth this season. Next Week: Iverson Junior Rose McNally Gooch Burger Cundle Bae Million Ennis Campbell Strong side that is. If Ty isn't interested then pop Haks/Vidigal there instead. Only player we disagree on is Cundle. I think I’d play Thompson for abit more bite in midfield, then look to bring Cundle on for Bae if we’re winning or Thompson if we’re not. I wanted to put Thompson but though people would have gone off their heads 😂 |
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Post by stokiemarc on Feb 3, 2024 19:52:15 GMT
People need to calm down. We played a team that punish today and unfortunately we lost the game in the first half with a poor decision and then poor defending. We've more than enough to stay up and I'd bet we'll finish about Plymouth this season. Next Week: Iverson Junior Rose McNally Gooch Burger Cundle Bae Million Ennis Campbell Strong side that is. If Ty isn't interested then pop Haks/Vidigal there instead. Ty has never been interested why would he next week? Shop window |
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Post by theonlooker on Feb 3, 2024 19:52:37 GMT
I'd play Sol Sidibe ahead of Cundle.
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Post by adamsson on Feb 3, 2024 19:53:44 GMT
I'm just glad it's not my job to try and pick the players up and give them some confidence for next week. Because I have no idea how.
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Post by sportsman on Feb 3, 2024 19:55:52 GMT
Million and junior could make a massive difference. We’ve all played football, and when I was playing 5 a side and you picked teams, iif you’re getting battered and they say let’s swap one player to try even up the game, it can only take one best player to drag the others with him to a better level and turn it around.
That defence and keeper will feel better having junior there, no doubt.
If million is a spark that drives forward and is fearless and a threat, others around him up front will get a lift. The whole team can get a lift.
That’s a positive spin on it. Hopefully it plays out. Confidence, confidence, confidence is the key, and that comes with getting results
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Post by stiggerstackle on Feb 3, 2024 19:56:17 GMT
Yep, calming down is a must.
I thought it was a shit team selection but understand why after a couple of iffy results - clearly didn’t want to get battered.
At half time I thought we were unlucky to be 2 down - we were also playing the ref - the free kick that led to the goal was a great tackle, not a free kick, and then an unlucky deflection off Pearson that wrong-footed Bonham. Every challenge we made was a free kick and a yellow, they are a great team anyway, but absolutely everything went for them as well.
However, that 2nd half was like a fucking fever-dream. Bizarre subs, bizarre positions. Lowe at right wing, Vidi at wing back, then central - just bizarre and frankly inexplicable.
Total brainfart today from SS but to be discussing his tenure at this stage is beyond mental.
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Post by Roger Everyone on Feb 3, 2024 19:57:36 GMT
Let's face it we are a lower half championship team.
As our finishes have suggested over the last couple of seasons.
We seem to be in a better place with this new manager than AN.
He will get it right, I truly believe he will.
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Post by iglugluk on Feb 3, 2024 19:57:55 GMT
I'd play Sol Sidibe ahead of Cundle. Good shout.. I guarantee it won't happen though.. Cundle is to Schumacher as Allen was to every Stoke manager he played under. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 3, 2024 19:58:33 GMT
Ty has never been interested why would he next week? Shop window Yeah so he should be busting a gut for a new club. But he's that entitled and lazy that even now he still can't be arsed. Always reacts 2 seconds late, does no graft. He's a shit house who needs putting into the under 16s to shame him. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 3, 2024 20:00:16 GMT
Picking players in their rightful positions would be a good starting point.
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Post by wrexhamstokie90 on Feb 3, 2024 20:01:10 GMT
While I understand the op post but I mean come it’s been how long we have been shite it’s not because they were top we have been poor for 5 years our home record is probably the worst in the football league. You think we will stop smodizs next week I mean really?
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Post by HarryTheHat on Feb 3, 2024 20:06:54 GMT
People need to calm down. We played a team that punish today and unfortunately we lost the game in the first half with a poor decision and then poor defending. We've more than enough to stay up and I'd bet we'll finish about Plymouth this season. Next Week: Iverson Junior Rose McNally Gooch Burger Cundle Bae Million Ennis Campbell Strong side that is. If Ty isn't interested then pop Haks/Vidigal there instead. There's no room for Campbell or McNally |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2024 20:07:31 GMT
People need to calm down. We played a team that punish today and unfortunately we lost the game in the first half with a poor decision and then poor defending. We've more than enough to stay up and I'd bet we'll finish about Plymouth this season. Next Week: Iverson Junior Rose McNally Gooch Burger Cundle Bae Million Ennis Campbell Strong side that is. If Ty isn't interested then pop Haks/Vidigal there instead. Calm down? We're 20th in the league and four points from the relegation zone. We're shipping goals for fun with an atrocious defence, and have scored 11 goals in our last 15 home games. The apathy and happy clapping at this club is laughable. |
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Post by stokeranger on Feb 3, 2024 20:08:31 GMT
People need to calm down. We played a team that punish today and unfortunately we lost the game in the first half with a poor decision and then poor defending. We've more than enough to stay up and I'd bet we'll finish about Plymouth this season. Next Week: Iverson Junior Rose McNally Gooch Burger Cundle Bae Million Ennis Campbell Strong side that is. If Ty isn't interested then pop Haks/Vidigal there instead. Calm down? We're 20th in the league and four points from the relegation zone. We're shipping goals for fun with an atrocious defence, and have scored 11 goals in our last 15 home games. The apathy and happy clapping at this club is laughable. |
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Post by stokeranger on Feb 3, 2024 20:10:34 GMT
Calm down? We're 20th in the league and four points from the relegation zone. We're shipping goals for fun with an atrocious defence, and have scored 11 goals in our last 15 home games. The apathy and happy clapping at this club is laughable. It’s all macron fault.. |
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Post by smallthorner on Feb 3, 2024 21:58:41 GMT
People need to calm down. We played a team that punish today and unfortunately we lost the game in the first half with a poor decision and then poor defending. We've more than enough to stay up and I'd bet we'll finish about Plymouth this season. Next Week: Iverson Junior Rose McNally Gooch Burger Cundle Bae Million Ennis Campbell Strong side that is. If Ty isn't interested then pop Haks/Vidigal there instead. Calm down? We're 20th in the league and four points from the relegation zone. We're shipping goals for fun with an atrocious defence, and have scored 11 goals in our last 15 home games. The apathy and happy clapping at this club is laughable. Have to agree. It's beyond a joke now. We've been in steady decline for 7(?) years and it's trajectory that will end in disaster. We should have all stayed behind and booed the fuck full blast out of players manager and board. What the cluck we/they do about it I've no idea. |
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Feb 3, 2024 22:05:39 GMT
I'd play Sol Sidibe ahead of Cundle. Seriously though, why has cundles scored goals, got assists, at Plymouth but looks wank here? Maybe it's not him? |
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Post by Rick Grimes on Feb 3, 2024 22:08:18 GMT
There’s a lot of noise and not much signal at the moment.
I really hope that he hasn’t lost the dressing room already and that we manage to put together a decent performance.
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Feb 3, 2024 22:23:27 GMT
Midfield would be better with Baker and Laurent when fit..Why didn't SS bring Baker on today ???
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Post by thicknthin on Feb 3, 2024 22:27:13 GMT
People need to calm down. We played a team that punish today and unfortunately we lost the game in the first half with a poor decision and then poor defending. We've more than enough to stay up and I'd bet we'll finish about Plymouth this season. Next Week: Iverson Junior Rose McNally Gooch Burger Cundle Bae Million Ennis Campbell Strong side that is. If Ty isn't interested then pop Haks/Vidigal there instead. How many times have Leicester scored more than 3 this away this season? |
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Post by moon on Feb 3, 2024 22:27:53 GMT
People need to calm down. We played a team that punish today and unfortunately we lost the game in the first half with a poor decision and then poor defending. We've more than enough to stay up and I'd bet we'll finish about Plymouth this season. Next Week: Iverson Junior Rose McNally Gooch Burger Cundle Bae Million Ennis Campbell Strong side that is. If Ty isn't interested then pop Haks/Vidigal there instead. Calm down? We're 20th in the league and four points from the relegation zone. We're shipping goals for fun with an atrocious defence, and have scored 11 goals in our last 15 home games. The apathy and happy clapping at this club is laughable. Two massive games coming up as well, Blackburn away who are in awful form, then QPR at home who have found some form recently. Lose those two and given the way it’s been going, that’s what I can see happening, and we are seriously in trouble. After that it’s Coventry and Cardiff left in February, and March looks extremely tough. I won’t be surprised if we go down, there are no goals in this team, and it’s the worst defence I’ve ever seen for Stoke. |
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Post by a on Feb 3, 2024 22:29:26 GMT
Picking players in their rightful positions would be a good starting point. Surely we’ve got enough ball boys and waiting staff at the club already though? |
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Feb 3, 2024 22:32:48 GMT
People need to calm down. We played a team that punish today and unfortunately we lost the game in the first half with a poor decision and then poor defending. We've more than enough to stay up and I'd bet we'll finish about Plymouth this season. Next Week: Iverson Junior Rose McNally Gooch Burger Cundle Bae Million Ennis Campbell Strong side that is. If Ty isn't interested then pop Haks/Vidigal there instead. When will people stop saying we have a strong team. We don’t. We’re weak |
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Feb 3, 2024 22:52:36 GMT
People need to calm down. We played a team that punish today and unfortunately we lost the game in the first half with a poor decision and then poor defending. We've more than enough to stay up and I'd bet we'll finish about Plymouth this season. Next Week: Iverson Junior Rose McNally Gooch Burger Cundle Bae Million Ennis Campbell Strong side that is. If Ty isn't interested then pop Haks/Vidigal there instead. Calm down? We're 20th in the league and four points from the relegation zone. We're shipping goals for fun with an atrocious defence, and have scored 11 goals in our last 15 home games. The apathy and happy clapping at this club is laughable. Correct. People are seemingly just sitting, waiting, for things to turn around. However long that takes. The fact is, if that hasn't happened in say, 7 or 8 games time, we'll be staring down the barrel of Morecambe at home, first game of the 24/25 season, in August. That's no exaggeration. There are currently no redeeming factors. Not a single one. |
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