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Post by rowleyscfc on Jan 29, 2024 11:25:11 GMT
Just taking into account this season, who is to blame?
Is it the management? under Neil maybe, Schumacher has defiantly made us create more and we've done okay at times under him
Is its Jared and Ricky? their clearly poor signings aren't doing the business, a nice few technical players but lack any conviction in both boxes, as well as not signing in key positions
The owners? Made poor decisions no doubt but hard to blame them for our players not being able score more than 2 out of 35 shots in the last 2 games
Players attitude? Schumacher's presser spoke volumes too me, the laziness in terms of professionalism has always stood out to me, not just running about but reactions when chances are missed they couldn't seem more unbothered, its the same in the warm up prior to kick off, for me players have got off really lightly the past few months
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Post by a on Jan 29, 2024 11:29:37 GMT
Just taking into account this season, who is to blame? Is it the management? under Neil maybe, Schumacher has defiantly made us create more and we've done okay at times under him Is its Jared and Ricky? their clearly poor signings aren't doing the business, a nice few technical players but lack any conviction in both boxes, as well as not signing in key positionsย The owners? Made poor decisions no doubt but hard to blame them for our players not being able score more than 2 out of 35 shots in the last 2 games Players attitude? Schumacher's presser spoke volumes too me, the laziness in terms of professionalism has always stood out to me, not just running about but reactions when chances are missed they couldn't seem more unbothered, its the same in the warm up prior to kick off, for me players have got off really lightly the past few monthsย The owners for taking too long to sack Hughes then replacing him with Lambert then allowing Rowett to waste ยฃ50m. Any other answer is wrong (imo ๐)
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Post by cheadlepotter on Jan 29, 2024 11:37:13 GMT
The owners, itโs quite simple really.
They employed a manager who had never achieved anything with his own players, let him more or less appoint the technical director himself who then appointed a chief scout whoโs limited knowledge seems to come from a Football Manager database. They unsurprisingly recruited badly, and the manager then made a bad job of assembling the badly recruited players.
Sure, you can blame others too like I just have, but the owners employed them whilst implementing the new staffing model in a comically bad way, so the blame ultimately lies with Coates Jnr.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jan 29, 2024 11:38:23 GMT
Someone's going to say it so it might aswell be me. Kitson is to blame.
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Post by ihaveadream on Jan 29, 2024 13:06:17 GMT
Someone's going to say it so it might aswell be me. Kitson is to blame. I was just about to
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Post by bobdebilde on Jan 29, 2024 17:48:28 GMT
recruitment has been horrendous since the end of the hughes era, cost us a place in the premier league and is looking likely to see us relegated to div 1, whoever made the decisions to sign the shower of shite we have had playing for us, or whoever let them do it, has made us what we are now, a poor side with poor players.
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Post by satoshi on Jan 29, 2024 18:15:26 GMT
Itโs a gypsy curse
We sign decent enough players but they regress to darts players in six months
Vidigal was class when he signed and now he wouldnโt get in Hanley Towns reserves
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 29, 2024 18:48:50 GMT
The stadium.
We moved from our historic home. First mistake.
Our first game was a half arsed cup game against Rochdale. We sneaked a win.
Sir Stan was asked to hit the ball in the net from the halfway line on our first official league game. He was in his 70s. The ball didn't make it. We lost the game against Swindon setting the tone for the season.
We then proceed to get relegated in our first season in our new home. After years of obscurity we get to the premier league. Stadium is a fortress. We expand said stadium and get relegated.
Its a fucking jinx of a place. We need to move back to stoke. Surely we can find a small plot and start again.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 29, 2024 19:00:04 GMT
The stadium. We moved from our historic home. First mistake. Our first game was a half arsed cup game against Rochdale. We sneaked a win. Sir Stan was asked to hit the ball in the net from the halfway line on our first official league game. He was in his 70s. The ball didn't make it. We lost the game against Swindon setting the tone for the season. We then proceed to get relegated in our first season in our new home. After years of obscurity we get to the premier league. Stadium is a fortress. We expand said stadium and get relegated. Its a fucking jinx of a place. We need to move back to stoke. Surely we can find a small plot and start again. Our record at the Vic was hardly outstanding either. Not the place some claim other teams feared to come in any sense I think we should consider not having home games
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 29, 2024 19:00:29 GMT
Kitson of course
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Post by spoton on Jan 29, 2024 19:01:15 GMT
There's only one answer it's the top boss who employs idiots then employ other idiots who can't do their job correctly
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Post by stoke1989 on Jan 29, 2024 19:06:17 GMT
Scholes and Cartwright
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Post by satoshi on Jan 29, 2024 19:10:51 GMT
The stadium. We moved from our historic home. First mistake. Our first game was a half arsed cup game against Rochdale. We sneaked a win. Sir Stan was asked to hit the ball in the net from the halfway line on our first official league game. He was in his 70s. The ball didn't make it. We lost the game against Swindon setting the tone for the season. We then proceed to get relegated in our first season in our new home. After years of obscurity we get to the premier league. Stadium is a fortress. We expand said stadium and get relegated. Its a fucking jinx of a place. We need to move back to stoke. Surely we can find a small plot and start again. Our record at the Vic was hardly outstanding either. Not the place some claim other teams feared to come in any sense I think we should consider not having home games Sell the stadium and spend it on players
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 29, 2024 19:12:23 GMT
The stadium. We moved from our historic home. First mistake. Our first game was a half arsed cup game against Rochdale. We sneaked a win. Sir Stan was asked to hit the ball in the net from the halfway line on our first official league game. He was in his 70s. The ball didn't make it. We lost the game against Swindon setting the tone for the season. We then proceed to get relegated in our first season in our new home. After years of obscurity we get to the premier league. Stadium is a fortress. We expand said stadium and get relegated. Its a fucking jinx of a place. We need to move back to stoke. Surely we can find a small plot and start again. Our record at the Vic was hardly outstanding either. Not the place some claim other teams feared to come in any sense I think we should consider not having home games Oh i get that but at least its easier to get out of the vic and home than the brit. Plus theres more pubs ๐
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 29, 2024 19:13:16 GMT
Our record at the Vic was hardly outstanding either. Not the place some claim other teams feared to come in any sense I think we should consider not having home games Oh i get that but at least its easier to get out of the vic and home than the brit. Plus theres more pubs ๐ I do miss the sweet shop but not the smell of piss
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jan 29, 2024 19:13:38 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 29, 2024 19:19:45 GMT
Just wanted to beat jesusmcmuffin to it really. Although in the end it was even easier than beating Vanessa Feltz to the salad bar etc etcโฆโฆ๐
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jan 29, 2024 19:22:55 GMT
Just wanted to beat jesusmcmuffin to it really. Although in the end it was even easier than beating Vanessa Feltz to the salad bar etc etcโฆโฆ๐ I said it further up mate as I knew someone(Jesus) would come and blame him ๐
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Post by hamsta2 on Jan 29, 2024 19:23:14 GMT
Corbyn.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 29, 2024 19:25:16 GMT
Just wanted to beat jesusmcmuffin to it really. Although in the end it was even easier than beating Vanessa Feltz to the salad bar etc etcโฆโฆ๐ I said it further up mate as I knew someone(Jesus) would come and blame him ๐
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Oh so you did!๐คฃ I really must read other comments properly
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jan 29, 2024 19:27:28 GMT
I said it further up mate as I knew someone(Jesus) would come and blame him ๐
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Oh so you did!๐คฃ I really must read other comments properly Well it was Kitson's fault that you didn't read the comments anyway the shithouse ๐
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 29, 2024 19:29:25 GMT
Oh so you did!๐คฃ I really must read other comments properly Well it was Kitson's fault that you didn't read the comments anyway the shithouse ๐ Good point well made. He really is a twat isnโt he!
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jan 29, 2024 19:38:21 GMT
Well it was Kitson's fault that you didn't read the comments anyway the shithouse ๐ Good point well made. He really is a twat isnโt he! He certainly is a twat mate ๐
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Post by philb on Jan 29, 2024 19:43:07 GMT
The stadium. We moved from our historic home. First mistake. Our first game was a half arsed cup game against Rochdale. We sneaked a win. Sir Stan was asked to hit the ball in the net from the halfway line on our first official league game. He was in his 70s. The ball didn't make it. We lost the game against Swindon setting the tone for the season. We then proceed to get relegated in our first season in our new home. After years of obscurity we get to the premier league. Stadium is a fortress. We expand said stadium and get relegated. Its a fucking jinx of a place. We need to move back to stoke. Surely we can find a small plot and start again. Wonder how much it would cost to buy Trentham Gardens and build there ๐คทโโ๏ธ๐
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jan 29, 2024 19:52:01 GMT
If the question is specifically about this season then it's whoever blew the opportunity of the clearout and re-recruitment.
We knew it was coming and had plenty of time to research and prepare but with a couple of exceptions (Burger, Junho, Junior) have recruited no better than what we got rid of and in some cases worse.
That must be the collective responsibility of Jared, Ricky and Alex Neil
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Jan 29, 2024 19:52:52 GMT
The stadium. We moved from our historic home. First mistake. Our first game was a half arsed cup game against Rochdale. We sneaked a win. Sir Stan was asked to hit the ball in the net from the halfway line on our first official league game. He was in his 70s. The ball didn't make it. We lost the game against Swindon setting the tone for the season. We then proceed to get relegated in our first season in our new home. After years of obscurity we get to the premier league. Stadium is a fortress. We expand said stadium and get relegated. Its a fucking jinx of a place. We need to move back to stoke. Surely we can find a small plot and start again. First game was a 1-1 draw we won on aggregate..
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 29, 2024 20:09:39 GMT
The stadium. We moved from our historic home. First mistake. Our first game was a half arsed cup game against Rochdale. We sneaked a win. Sir Stan was asked to hit the ball in the net from the halfway line on our first official league game. He was in his 70s. The ball didn't make it. We lost the game against Swindon setting the tone for the season. We then proceed to get relegated in our first season in our new home. After years of obscurity we get to the premier league. Stadium is a fortress. We expand said stadium and get relegated. Its a fucking jinx of a place. We need to move back to stoke. Surely we can find a small plot and start again. First game was a 1-1 draw we won on aggregate.. You're spot on. My mistake ๐
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Jan 29, 2024 20:11:47 GMT
First game was a 1-1 draw we won on aggregate.. You're spot on. My mistake ๐ Does get blurry with time.. great hit by kav it was though.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 29, 2024 20:12:29 GMT
The stadium. We moved from our historic home. First mistake. Our first game was a half arsed cup game against Rochdale. We sneaked a win. Sir Stan was asked to hit the ball in the net from the halfway line on our first official league game. He was in his 70s. The ball didn't make it. We lost the game against Swindon setting the tone for the season. We then proceed to get relegated in our first season in our new home. After years of obscurity we get to the premier league. Stadium is a fortress. We expand said stadium and get relegated. Its a fucking jinx of a place. We need to move back to stoke. Surely we can find a small plot and start again. Wonder how much it would cost to buy Trentham Gardens and build there ๐คทโโ๏ธ๐ Just flatten Shelton and build a 80,000 mega dome with retractable roof and all the IPA in the world with cable car transport from all towns. Easy peasy
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Jan 29, 2024 20:16:49 GMT
Wonder how much it would cost to buy Trentham Gardens and build there ๐คทโโ๏ธ๐ Just flatten Shelton and build a 80,000 mega dome with retractable roof and all the IPA in the world with cable car transport from all towns. Easy peasy Just flatten shelton would do..
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