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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 29, 2024 20:22:56 GMT
Utter cunts mate, pond life. He’s been one of our better signings and certainly gives 100% every time he plays, he just got hung out to dry at the weekend. Clarke is one of those most managers double up on to negate the oppositions biggest threat. I like Schumacher but it was poor not see this from the start. Gooch is just filling in at right back really because Hoever has been so poor I was quite surprised at how exposed Gooch was. I expected more support for him with Lleris on the right as well. Totally agree about Gooch, I love his energy on the right hand side when we are looking for urgency. It’s such a shame to see how we are calling players out all the time. Whilst Baker was injured he was “shite”, he scored against Rotherham and suddenly he was one of our best midfielders, now he’s back to being a “nothing player” and we should sell him. Some fans need to give their heads a wobble They’re both players that can help us climb the table. I won’t talk about the players that wont
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 29, 2024 20:25:51 GMT
I don't know why people actually engage with anyone remotely famous on twitter. There's only really two tactics - arse-licking and abuse, and they're both a bit embarrassing
Gooch was shocking on Saturday - but that was mainly because he was isolated against a very good player, and he's not really a defender.
One thing you can never accuse him of is a lack of effort and drive.
It does highlight what a car crash we are in the full-back positions though (especially in Tchamadeu's absence), and I'm not sure (as generally positive as Gooch has been) where he's really going to figure regularly in the longer-term. He's not solid enough to really be full-back and not creative/goalsy enough to play on the wing, making approaching £1m a bit steep for a squad man in this Championship environment.
With all that, he's probably our 4th best signing of the summer, and not sure if that says more about him or our window.
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Post by questionable on Jan 29, 2024 20:42:49 GMT
Lynden Gooch @lyndengooch · 1h I’ve seen a few of these now that I feel like I need to say something. I have given everything in a Stoke City shirt since I have joined and will continue to do so. We got beat by the better team on Saturday who were more ruthless than us in both boxes twitter.com/callumlawt1616…
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jan 29, 2024 20:45:41 GMT
Lynden Gooch @lyndengooch · 1h I’ve seen a few of these now that I feel like I need to say something. I have given everything in a Stoke City shirt since I have joined and will continue to do so. We got beat by the better team on Saturday who were more ruthless than us in both boxes twitter.com/callumlawt1616… Look on the last page 😉
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 29, 2024 21:27:52 GMT
Some right weapons supporting this club thinking giving shit to a player online makes them look good The comment he's replying to is clearly written by a sub literate nobody. I'm surprised he even bothered to type a response at all tbh. He's certainly not one of the players who should be accused of putting in below par effort. Hopefully he doesn't give a moment's more thought to these opinions as he and the rest of the squad have work to do in training this week, it seems.
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Post by a on Jan 29, 2024 21:58:59 GMT
It’s a shame he’s had to come out and say this. He had a tough game against one of the best wingers in the league and had limited support. He’s not a world beater but from what I have seen I wouldn’t ever question his commitment and determination. One of the things I hate about social media is the ease of being able to abuse people. Hopefully Gooch doesn’t think we all feel the same as a few of our fellow “supporters” Utter cunts mate, pond life. He’s been one of our better signings and certainly gives 100% every time he plays, he just got hung out to dry at the weekend. Clarke is one of those most managers double up on to negate the oppositions biggest threat. I like Schumacher but it was poor not see this from the start. Gooch is just filling in at right back really because Hoever has been so poor Fair play to him, he doesn’t and is better off not responding to the clueless ‘fans’ that are coming out with such drivel. It’s so typical of fans who idolise a player one week and berate him the next. Honestly who really cares enough to go on a rant at someone like some have? Go for a walk or do something else 😂
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Post by Ron on Jan 30, 2024 7:14:24 GMT
He’s been far from our worst performer and there’s effort there. I don’t think he’s the best but he does give his all.
I don’t get the hate for him clapping the Sunderland fans though.
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Post by st3mark on Jan 30, 2024 7:25:32 GMT
Really sad to see clowns having a pop at our most hard working and committed player.
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Post by sticky on Jan 30, 2024 8:08:27 GMT
I think it’s pretty clear that there’s a fair amount of our fan base, who have seen enough dog shit over the last 7 years, and any new players/managers are going to be given less time because of it. (and I’m not having a go at them as it’s quite understandable really) let’s be honest, we’re all frustrated and sick to death of this groundhog day feeling. I’m just going to stick with Schuey (blindly maybe) and see where we end up. We can’t continue with this turnover of managers and players, this. seasons gone (how many times has that been said!) but I’m at the point where at the end of the season, what will be will be.
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Post by wuzza on Jan 30, 2024 8:08:40 GMT
In this day and age I think his responses at the game and afterwards to the social media comments (stupid as they may be) were a bit naive at best. Frankly if he was going to comment I wish he sounded a bit more embarrassed that a bang average Sunderland side were the ‘better team’.
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Post by femark on Jan 30, 2024 8:32:23 GMT
Utter cunts mate, pond life. He’s been one of our better signings and certainly gives 100% every time he plays, he just got hung out to dry at the weekend. Clarke is one of those most managers double up on to negate the oppositions biggest threat. I like Schumacher but it was poor not see this from the start. Gooch is just filling in at right back really because Hoever has been so poor I was quite surprised at how exposed Gooch was. I expected more support for him with Lleris on the right as well. Totally agree about Gooch, I love his energy on the right hand side when we are looking for urgency. It’s such a shame to see how we are calling players out all the time. Whilst Baker was injured he was “shite”, he scored against Rotherham and suddenly he was one of our best midfielders, now he’s back to being a “nothing player” and we should sell him. Some fans need to give their heads a wobble Schumacher has talked previously about winning individual battles. He's not going to double up on players as that isn't his way. Gooch has been one of our better summer signings but it's clear he's become the new scapegoat.
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Post by Timmy on Jan 30, 2024 8:35:01 GMT
In this day and age I think his responses at the game and afterwards to the social media comments (stupid as they may be) were a bit naive at best. Frankly if he was going to comment I wish he sounded a bit more embarrassed that a bang average Sunderland side were the ‘better team’. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.. Tell it how it is: Get stick for not saying the right things.. Tip Toe around questions: Get stick for not saying the right things.. Blatantly lie: Get stick for not saying the right things.. By the way, this average Sunderland team finished in the playoffs last season and probably will finish in the playoffs this season, where have we finished in the last 6?
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Post by chayseeoatcake on Jan 30, 2024 8:46:56 GMT
He was pathetic at Plymouth. Then was clapping as he casually walked past the away end. Pathetic at Sunderland then starts blowing kisses at the home fans. Decent otherwise.
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Post by jokker on Jan 30, 2024 8:50:08 GMT
Honestly? That’s absolute fucking horseshit. All of Bae Jun-Ho, Burger and Tchamadeu (at least) will be sold for considerable profit. Also, add Gooch to the evergrowing long list of full backs to have been tormented by Jack Clarke, viewed by many as the best winger in the league. All this is getting a bit insane on the back of a couple of defeats. They have hardly set the championship a blaze, have they? A few - very few - good games, but otherwise as average and mediocre as the rest of the team. We will be lucky to collect a few bob for them. If we keep them to the end of their contracts they will leave on frees to pick up any profit themselves. <Jack Clarke, viewed by many as the best winger in the league> Except when he was playing for Stoke City... <a bit insane on the back of a couple of defeats>Agree with that. It's okay to be disappointed, upset even, in the aftermath after a poor performance, but then you have to come down to reality. Even with the first defeat there was a feeling of moral victory, where we'd played well but we just had failed to put the ball in, not for he first time in recent history. And now this evocation of doom... Of course when we've next beaten Leicester and then Blackburn, the atmosphere will be more of scfc being world beaters which is just as stupid as what we've seen lately among the alleged Stoke faithful...
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Post by jokker on Jan 30, 2024 8:55:16 GMT
Just back home. But to top it, Schumacher saw it fit to allow Gooch a standing ovation from the home fans by subbing him with a couple of minutes to go. Going off slowly milking the ovation from their fans. We were being thumped and he had been ripped apart all game by Clarke was and directly at fault for first 2 goals Have some humility and self awareness. Just felt like rubbing it in in your face. Starting to hate Stoke City Be old enough to look beyond your own nosetip...Schumacher was just showing a bit of class. Definitely a man with his heart in the right place.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jan 30, 2024 9:11:15 GMT
Just back home. But to top it, Schumacher saw it fit to allow Gooch a standing ovation from the home fans by subbing him with a couple of minutes to go. Going off slowly milking the ovation from their fans. We were being thumped and he had been ripped apart all game by Clarke was and directly at fault for first 2 goals Have some humility and self awareness. Just felt like rubbing it in in your face. Starting to hate Stoke City Be old enough to look beyond your own nosetip...Schumacher was just showing a bit of class. Definitely a man with his heart in the right place. It’s a fair point. Is Gooch one of the more senior players in the dressing room already? Is he going to be one of Schumacher’s lieutenants to sort some of the silliness out? Was this the best way to get him onside and imbue a feeling of responsibility & trust in Gooch?
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Post by flea79 on Jan 30, 2024 9:16:52 GMT
someone should have a word with him, sending love hearts to sunderland tweets and then trying to have a pop at Stoke fans who have called him out on it
if he loves it so much there he can piss back off up to them
on one hand we get
yet he thinks this is perfectly ok and would appear to be rubbing our noses in it....
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Post by haway on Jan 30, 2024 9:20:19 GMT
He’s not a RB. He’ll give it his all, but I’ve always viewed Gooch as a hard working utility player with no standout qualities as a footballer at this level. Certainly shouldn’t have been left isolated against Clarke. Every time he’s one on one with a full back, he fancies his chances - the times he’s struggled has been when he’s been doubled up on. Honestly? That’s absolute fucking horseshit. All of Bae Jun-Ho, Burger and Tchamadeu (at least) will be sold for considerable profit. Also, add Gooch to the evergrowing long list of full backs to have been tormented by Jack Clarke, viewed by many as the best winger in the league. All this is getting a bit insane on the back of a couple of defeats. They have hardly set the championship a blaze, have they? A few - very few - good games, but otherwise as average and mediocre as the rest of the team. We will be lucky to collect a few bob for them. If we keep them to the end of their contracts they will leave on frees to pick up any profit themselves. <Jack Clarke, viewed by many as the best winger in the league> Except when he was playing for Stoke City... <a bit insane on the back of a couple of defeats>Agree with that. It's okay to be disappointed, upset even, in the aftermath after a poor performance, but then you have to come down to reality. Even with the first defeat there was a feeling of moral victory, where we'd played well but we just had failed to put the ball in, not for he first time in recent history. And now this evocation of doom... Of course when we've next beaten Leicester and then Blackburn, the atmosphere will be more of scfc being world beaters which is just as stupid as what we've seen lately among the alleged Stoke faithful... How old was Clarke when he played for you? More than likely still finding his feet if he was still a kid.
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 30, 2024 9:26:56 GMT
Why anyone is getting on Gooch's back is quite simply beyond me
He didnt play great on Saturday for sure, but Sunderland clapped him off as he was there for about 15 years. I just dont know what the issue is, what does our fans expect him to do?? flick the v's and give then the wanker signs. FFS some fans are unbelieveable
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 30, 2024 9:33:28 GMT
He’s not a RB. He’ll give it his all, but I’ve always viewed Gooch as a hard working utility player with no standout qualities as a footballer at this level. Certainly shouldn’t have been left isolated against Clarke. Every time he’s one on one with a full back, he fancies his chances - the times he’s struggled has been when he’s been doubled up on. They have hardly set the championship a blaze, have they? A few - very few - good games, but otherwise as average and mediocre as the rest of the team. We will be lucky to collect a few bob for them. If we keep them to the end of their contracts they will leave on frees to pick up any profit themselves. <Jack Clarke, viewed by many as the best winger in the league> Except when he was playing for Stoke City... <a bit insane on the back of a couple of defeats>Agree with that. It's okay to be disappointed, upset even, in the aftermath after a poor performance, but then you have to come down to reality. Even with the first defeat there was a feeling of moral victory, where we'd played well but we just had failed to put the ball in, not for he first time in recent history. And now this evocation of doom... Of course when we've next beaten Leicester and then Blackburn, the atmosphere will be more of scfc being world beaters which is just as stupid as what we've seen lately among the alleged Stoke faithful... How old was Clarke when he played for you? More than likely still finding his feet if he was still a kid. He has just left Leeds for Spurs but wasnt get much game time, Stoke came in for him in the Covid season on 2020/21 where everygame was played behind closed doors. We took him on loan for the 2nd half of the season but in my opinion the 2nd half is a bit of a waste as its more like the final 3rd. He was behind McClean in the pecking order and never really dislodged him as McClean didn't do much wrong and he was returned to Spurs at the end of that season having barley played
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Post by mamathestriker on Jan 30, 2024 9:46:07 GMT
Social media is full of people who can hide and have a go at people. In real life they wouldn't say boo to a goose.
Gooch was crap on Saturday but he's given 100% for us, unlike some who get off without a mention.
We have some lunatics in our fan base mins, most seems to reside on Twitter.
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Post by nigerianstokie on Jan 30, 2024 9:51:49 GMT
Honestly? That’s absolute fucking horseshit. All of Bae Jun-Ho, Burger and Tchamadeu (at least) will be sold for considerable profit. Also, add Gooch to the evergrowing long list of full backs to have been tormented by Jack Clarke, viewed by many as the best winger in the league. All this is getting a bit insane on the back of a couple of defeats. They have hardly set the championship a blaze, have they? A few - very few - good games, but otherwise as average and mediocre as the rest of the team. We will be lucky to collect a few bob for them. If we keep them to the end of their contracts they will leave on frees to pick up any profit themselves. <Jack Clarke, viewed by many as the best winger in the league> Except when he was playing for Stoke City... <a bit insane on the back of a couple of defeats>Agree with that. It's okay to be disappointed, upset even, in the aftermath after a poor performance, but then you have to come down to reality. Even with the first defeat there was a feeling of moral victory, where we'd played well but we just had failed to put the ball in, not for he first time in recent history. And now this evocation of doom... Of course when we've next beaten Leicester and then Blackburn, the atmosphere will be more of scfc being world beaters which is just as stupid as what we've seen lately among the alleged Stoke faithful... I’d agree that they haven’t been incredible every week, but you must be mad to see that they won’t go for profit. They’ve come from relatively unproven scenarios (except for Burger), shone and PL clubs must be taking notice. That immediately drives the price of any player up. Jack Clarke has grown immeasurably since then, he was woeful for us.
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Post by callas12 on Jan 30, 2024 9:55:37 GMT
Why anyone is getting on Gooch's back is quite simply beyond me He didnt play great on Saturday for sure, but Sunderland clapped him off as he was there for about 15 years. I just dont know what the issue is, what does our fans expect him to do?? flick the v's and give then the wanker signs. FFS some fans are unbelieveable Agree. Really dont see the big deal about it myself & some folk see this as merely a way of channelling their frustrations. Would it have been an issue if the same had happened if Gooch was subbed and we were leading at that time??! I very much doubt it. Maybe I'm wrong here but sure this was quite similar to what happened between us and Erik Pieters on a few occasions over the last season or so, whilst he's been wearing a West Brom shirt! If a long serving ex player & his former fans can't have a few moments of having a bit of mutual appreciation for each other at an appropriate time, whether winning or losing then it's sad times. It's in no way a reflection of their current loyalty, its merely a goodwill gesture that shouldn't be over looked or frowned upon. I recall Steino getting the same treatment when he returned to Stoke with Bournemouth, a hero's welcome for a returning ex player who gave good service to his former employers, & the respect was mutually received by The Golden One! The fact Gooch has had to come out & defend himself over it is also a sad reflection on those who felt the need to sit behind their keyboards & question his motives!
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Post by stokecity4life on Jan 30, 2024 10:01:23 GMT
Some of our ‘fans’ are an utter joke at times.
The intelligence level baffles me.
This guy has been brilliant since we signed him.
Got ripped to shreds by a prem player.
End of.
Schumacher showed his integrity.
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Post by wuzza on Jan 30, 2024 10:06:58 GMT
In this day and age I think his responses at the game and afterwards to the social media comments (stupid as they may be) were a bit naive at best. Frankly if he was going to comment I wish he sounded a bit more embarrassed that a bang average Sunderland side were the ‘better team’. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.. Tell it how it is: Get stick for not saying the right things.. Tip Toe around questions: Get stick for not saying the right things.. Blatantly lie: Get stick for not saying the right things.. By the way, this average Sunderland team finished in the playoffs last season and probably will finish in the playoffs this season, where have we finished in the last 6? You are probably right with your first point but it really didn’t sit well milking applause when you have just contributed to a dire result for the side you are paid to play for and as for your second issue the fact another team has finished above us in the league does not make them any good and our new players should be aspiring to be miles better (or not be employed by the club).
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Post by Eggybread on Jan 30, 2024 10:16:39 GMT
Not having a pop at Gooch.But one thing in my opinion is that Hoever is an overall better full back from what Ive seen over the season.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jan 30, 2024 10:20:44 GMT
The only other bad game that sticks out for me with Gooch was Sunderland at home. Came on as sub, looked lost for 5 minutes, gave the ball away a couple of times and really struggled to get up to the pace of the game.
Otherwise he’s been solid enough with a couple of good/very good performances as well.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 30, 2024 10:41:29 GMT
someone should have a word with him, sending love hearts to sunderland tweets and then trying to have a pop at Stoke fans who have called him out on it if he loves it so much there he can piss back off up to them on one hand we get yet he thinks this is perfectly ok and would appear to be rubbing our noses in it.... It’s his childhood club. His family moved from the U.S. to the UK for that opportunity. Simply, who cares if he posts a love heart on social media? He gave everything in the match and looked knackered when he came off. Clarke ran him ragged but it wasn’t for lack of trying.
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Post by flea79 on Jan 30, 2024 10:44:01 GMT
someone should have a word with him, sending love hearts to sunderland tweets and then trying to have a pop at Stoke fans who have called him out on it if he loves it so much there he can piss back off up to them on one hand we get yet he thinks this is perfectly ok and would appear to be rubbing our noses in it.... It’s his childhood club. His family moved from the U.S. to the UK for that opportunity. Simply, who cares if he posts a love heart on social media? He gave everything in the match and looked knackered when he came off. Clarke ran him ragged but it wasn’t for lack of trying. quite correct but even so given the context of the loss etc it could be seen as rubbing our noses in it, it doesnt quite come across right for me!
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jan 30, 2024 11:11:23 GMT
someone should have a word with him, sending love hearts to sunderland tweets and then trying to have a pop at Stoke fans who have called him out on it if he loves it so much there he can piss back off up to them on one hand we get yet he thinks this is perfectly ok and would appear to be rubbing our noses in it.... He's been one of our better players this season and one who gives his all every game. He had a torrid time against Clarke Saturday but I'm sure many defenders will admit to that by the end of the season in our league. He's showing a bit of respect to supporters of a club he was at for a long time who instead of booing him and giving him shit applauded him for his time there. I don't think it's the end of the world is it?
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