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Post by redstriper on Jan 22, 2024 9:14:48 GMT
If you haven't seen the highlights from this game give them a go. Every true football fan should be disgusted at this. Congratulations Real at winning the league again  Feel very sorry for Almeria but most of all for Girona. Little clubs are not on a level playing field in any of the major leagues. link |
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jan 22, 2024 9:21:37 GMT
Nothing short of bent.
I want to see Bellingham win the lot, but not like that.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jan 22, 2024 9:28:32 GMT
Corrupt as fuck. Every VAR decision was wrong there and all to favour Real.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 22, 2024 9:38:25 GMT
Shocking
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 22, 2024 9:41:25 GMT
That was shocking.
What the hell was the penalty for? I couldn't see anything.
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Post by Silkystoke on Jan 22, 2024 9:57:10 GMT
I follow Granada, my wife’s family all live there, they’ve stopped going now and I’m not surprised with some of the decisions that’s have gone against them..!!! Absolutely shocking..!!!!!
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Post by redstriper on Jan 22, 2024 10:53:40 GMT
For Real - read Manu Utd.
Here's the playbook - getting near 60 mins and not winning ?... find a way to give them a penalty. Then find a way to give every key decision to them for the rest of the game. Still not winning after 90? - play until they score.
When VAR came in I welcomed it because I thought it would be harder to give all the key decisions to the elite. I should have known better.
What happened is a faceless unaccountable individual who the fans cannot even question can look back as far as he wants on the video until he finds an excuse not to give a goal to the minnows. See the "foul" on Bellingham for Almerias third goal.
He can also choose which bits of a penalty area battle to give priority to in order to award goals to the favoured side. See the Real penalty.
He can also decide which camera angles to show when trying to justify giving the favoured side another goal. See Reals equalizier.
It's absolutely shameful. At least refs had to run the gauntlet of the crowd displeasure.
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Post by chiprockets on Jan 22, 2024 10:58:20 GMT
ah yes, those plucky underdogs, city group owned ickle Girona.
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Post by kerouac on Jan 22, 2024 11:20:45 GMT
Corruption apart,VAR is totally ruining the game for me....I see no benefit from it in the slightest.The minutiae of every decision and challenge is bleeding the life out football.One thing I hoped it'd help was the simulation, but thats got fucking worse.
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Post by Northy on Jan 22, 2024 11:24:32 GMT
quite shocking that was.
I watched Girona highlights earlier, they beat Sevilla 5-1, a hat trick within 19 minutes
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Post by redstriper on Jan 22, 2024 13:17:22 GMT
ah yes, those plucky underdogs, city group owned ickle Girona. disaffected Manure fan unhappy that Citeh have more money than you.. don't worry, you've still got the refs on your side... |
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 22, 2024 13:24:10 GMT
For Real - read Manu Utd. Here's the playbook - getting near 60 mins and not winning ?... find a way to give them a penalty. Then find a way to give every key decision to them for the rest of the game. Still not winning after 90? - play until they score. When VAR came in I welcomed it because I thought it would be harder to give all the key decisions to the elite. I should have known better. What happened is a faceless unaccountable individual who the fans cannot even question can look back as far as he wants on the video until he finds an excuse not to give a goal to the minnows. See the "foul" on Bellingham for Almerias third goal. He can also choose which bits of a penalty area battle to give priority to in order to award goals to the favoured side. See the Real penalty. He can also decide which camera angles to show when trying to justify giving the favoured side another goal. See Reals equalizier. It's absolutely shameful. At least refs had to run the gauntlet of the crowd displeasure. This is a massive and significant downside of VAR (one of several), nearly all physical contact can be interpreted as a foul by VAr with stills and slo mo enhancement and the scope for abuse is much, much greater here and is clearly being exploited by officials. |
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 22, 2024 13:31:25 GMT
Bellingham’s education on how to become a cheating piece of scum is coming along nicely, it seems. Disgusting behaviour for the perfectly good goal (Almeria’s third).
As for RM’s penalty: where to start? I thought that climbing on someone’s shoulders was a foul? Why wasn’t it ruled out because RM did that twice in the box. In fact, if he wasn’t being humped, it may not have struck his arm.
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Post by Northy on Jan 22, 2024 13:52:34 GMT
"I understand Almeria's anger with the VAR decisions, but I think they were well judged," said Real boss Carlo Ancelotti.  Speaking about Real's win, Almeria midfielder Gonzalo Melero told DAZN "we were robbed" after several video assistant referee (VAR) decisions went against his team. "It pains me to say it, but there's no other way to take it," he added. "And that's not the first this year. What happened today went beyond all limits, it was unbelievable. "Nothing more could have been done for them to win the game." Goalscorer Gonzalez added: "This is a competition that should be fair for everyone and sometimes it's hard to see that." I wonder if any of the Spanish Media outlets or other clubs will speak up about it soon ? |
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Post by BristolMick on Jan 22, 2024 14:03:14 GMT
For Real - read Manu Utd. Here's the playbook - getting near 60 mins and not winning ?... find a way to give them a penalty. Then find a way to give every key decision to them for the rest of the game. Still not winning after 90? - play until they score. When VAR came in I welcomed it because I thought it would be harder to give all the key decisions to the elite. I should have known better. What happened is a faceless unaccountable individual who the fans cannot even question can look back as far as he wants on the video until he finds an excuse not to give a goal to the minnows. See the "foul" on Bellingham for Almerias third goal. He can also choose which bits of a penalty area battle to give priority to in order to award goals to the favoured side. See the Real penalty. He can also decide which camera angles to show when trying to justify giving the favoured side another goal. See Reals equalizier. It's absolutely shameful. At least refs had to run the gauntlet of the crowd displeasure. Also I hoped and still hope that VAR would stop refs from giving all the decisions to the big clubs. Abolishing it won’t make things better though and here is a reminder of that from last week as the referee just couldn’t wait to give a penalty to Norwich against little ol’ Bristol Rovers for this blatant bit of cheating x.com/alidurdenBBC/status/1747995659834192166?t=0He3kalEdqGWnBTxHKCJdg&s=08BM |
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 22, 2024 14:12:37 GMT
For Real - read Manu Utd. Here's the playbook - getting near 60 mins and not winning ?... find a way to give them a penalty. Then find a way to give every key decision to them for the rest of the game. Still not winning after 90? - play until they score. When VAR came in I welcomed it because I thought it would be harder to give all the key decisions to the elite. I should have known better. What happened is a faceless unaccountable individual who the fans cannot even question can look back as far as he wants on the video until he finds an excuse not to give a goal to the minnows. See the "foul" on Bellingham for Almerias third goal. He can also choose which bits of a penalty area battle to give priority to in order to award goals to the favoured side. See the Real penalty. He can also decide which camera angles to show when trying to justify giving the favoured side another goal. See Reals equalizier. It's absolutely shameful. At least refs had to run the gauntlet of the crowd displeasure. Also I hoped and still hope that VAR would stop refs from giving all the decisions to the big clubs. Abolishing it won’t make things better though and here is a reminder of that from last week as the referee just couldn’t wait to give a penalty to Norwich against little ol’ Bristol Rovers for this blatant bit of cheating x.com/alidurdenBBC/status/1747995659834192166?t=0He3kalEdqGWnBTxHKCJdg&s=08BM Players should serve 5 game bans for initial offences. With an increase of 5 games per offence. Only then would clubs stop encouraging players to cheat. Lowe could have gone down the other day but instead, stumbled around. The commentators spent the next five minutes talking about why he should have dived to “earn” the penalty. Grown men moaning that other grown men aren’t cheating enough. It’s disgusting. |
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Post by jokker on Jan 22, 2024 14:23:00 GMT
That was shocking. What the hell was the penalty for? I couldn't see anything. Just because you closed your eyes doesn't mean that handball, even if unintentional, suddenly becomes legal. |
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Post by kerouac on Jan 22, 2024 14:33:56 GMT
For Real - read Manu Utd. Here's the playbook - getting near 60 mins and not winning ?... find a way to give them a penalty. Then find a way to give every key decision to them for the rest of the game. Still not winning after 90? - play until they score. When VAR came in I welcomed it because I thought it would be harder to give all the key decisions to the elite. I should have known better. What happened is a faceless unaccountable individual who the fans cannot even question can look back as far as he wants on the video until he finds an excuse not to give a goal to the minnows. See the "foul" on Bellingham for Almerias third goal. He can also choose which bits of a penalty area battle to give priority to in order to award goals to the favoured side. See the Real penalty. He can also decide which camera angles to show when trying to justify giving the favoured side another goal. See Reals equalizier. It's absolutely shameful. At least refs had to run the gauntlet of the crowd displeasure. Also I hoped and still hope that VAR would stop refs from giving all the decisions to the big clubs. Abolishing it won’t make things better though and here is a reminder of that from last week as the referee just couldn’t wait to give a penalty to Norwich against little ol’ Bristol Rovers for this blatant bit of cheating x.com/alidurdenBBC/status/1747995659834192166?t=0He3kalEdqGWnBTxHKCJdg&s=08BM Its a fucking joke.... |
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Post by stiggerstackle on Jan 22, 2024 15:53:30 GMT
Also I hoped and still hope that VAR would stop refs from giving all the decisions to the big clubs. Abolishing it won’t make things better though and here is a reminder of that from last week as the referee just couldn’t wait to give a penalty to Norwich against little ol’ Bristol Rovers for this blatant bit of cheating x.com/alidurdenBBC/status/1747995659834192166?t=0He3kalEdqGWnBTxHKCJdg&s=08BM Players should serve 5 game bans for initial offences. With an increase of 5 games per offence. Only then would clubs stop encouraging players to cheat. Lowe could have gone down the other day but instead, stumbled around. The commentators spent the next five minutes talking about why he should have dived to “earn” the penalty. Grown men moaning that other grown men aren’t cheating enough. It’s disgusting. I do agree with you, but I have to admit that in the heat of the moment on Saturday I was pissed off he didn't hit the deck... Admirable for a young lad to stay on his feet. |
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 22, 2024 16:34:03 GMT
That was shocking. What the hell was the penalty for? I couldn't see anything. Just because you closed your eyes doesn't mean that handball, even if unintentional, suddenly becomes legal. It hit his arm because the forward clearly pushed the defender towards the ball. It was a clear foul by the forward I didn't see any offence from the defender. |
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Post by PotterLog on Jan 22, 2024 17:14:00 GMT
It looks bad because it was three close calls that all went Madrid’s way but they also had a goal VARed and a reasonable penalty shout declined. Only the penalty handball was debatable for the push in the back.
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Post by jokker on Jan 22, 2024 18:58:15 GMT
Just because you closed your eyes doesn't mean that handball, even if unintentional, suddenly becomes legal. It hit his arm because the forward clearly pushed the defender towards the ball. It was a clear foul by the forward I didn't see any offence from the defender. As you say it hit his arm. And yet you claim "no offence". It's a good thing there is only one set of football laws and not one for every Tom, Dick and Harry's expertise from the sofas out there. |
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jan 22, 2024 19:59:51 GMT
It hit his arm because the forward clearly pushed the defender towards the ball. It was a clear foul by the forward I didn't see any offence from the defender. As you say it hit his arm. And yet you claim "no offence". It's a good thing there is only one set of football laws and not one for every Tom, Dick and Harry's expertise from the sofas out there. I think you are missing the point that the only reason it hit his arm was because he was pushed in the back. You are right we can't change the rules to please everyone therefore it should have been a foul and not a penalty for handball. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 22, 2024 20:01:20 GMT
As you say it hit his arm. And yet you claim "no offence". It's a good thing there is only one set of football laws and not one for every Tom, Dick and Harry's expertise from the sofas out there. I think you are missing the point that the only reason it hit his arm was because he was pushed in the back. You are right we can't change the rules to please everyone therefore it should have been a foul and not a penalty for handball. Spot on |
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Post by matelot1996 on Jan 22, 2024 20:03:47 GMT
I made peace long ago with the fact that Football in most Countries is corrupt in favour of the Top sides. Always has been and always will. Should be no surprise. Either boycott the game or keep paying your hard earned and suck it up. It is also the law that big clubs have a louder and more persistent “right to complain.” through the sycophantic media. Small clubs don’t have that privilege. The more I think about it the more I despise the sport I love. 🤷♂️🤷♂️
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jan 22, 2024 20:04:53 GMT
I think you are missing the point that the only reason it hit his arm was because he was pushed in the back. You are right we can't change the rules to please everyone therefore it should have been a foul and not a penalty for handball. Spot on It was hardly the meaning of life Badge but thought I would explain anyway 😁 |
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jan 22, 2024 20:30:13 GMT
Corruption apart,VAR is totally ruining the game for me....I see no benefit from it in the slightest.The minutiae of every decision and challenge is bleeding the life out football.One thing I hoped it'd help was the simulation, but thats got fucking worse. It's fucking atrocious, and that's without it even impacting my club. I'd do away with it in a heartbeat. |
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Post by idle on Jan 22, 2024 20:48:03 GMT
As you say it hit his arm. And yet you claim "no offence". It's a good thing there is only one set of football laws and not one for every Tom, Dick and Harry's expertise from the sofas out there. I think you are missing the point that the only reason it hit his arm was because he was pushed in the back. You are right we can't change the rules to please everyone therefore it should have been a foul and not a penalty for handball. The real kicker is that they changed the handball rule to make it easier for VAR to spot them. No more "hand seeking the ball" or anything like that. The perfect defender is now armless. |
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Post by a on Jan 22, 2024 20:52:49 GMT
Corruption apart,VAR is totally ruining the game for me....I see no benefit from it in the slightest.The minutiae of every decision and challenge is bleeding the life out football.One thing I hoped it'd help was the simulation, but thats got fucking worse. It stopped palace from topping the penalty charts immediately, zaha was one of the worst. However I agree it’s become a joke. I’d only keep it for off the ball incidents that refs seem to miss but otherwise I’d stop its use. Not celebrating a goal ruins it for everyone. |
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Post by jokker on Jan 23, 2024 5:15:46 GMT
As you say it hit his arm. And yet you claim "no offence". It's a good thing there is only one set of football laws and not one for every Tom, Dick and Harry's expertise from the sofas out there. I think you are missing the point that the only reason it hit his arm was because he was pushed in the back. You are right we can't change the rules to please everyone therefore it should have been a foul and not a penalty for handball. There's a lot of pushing and shoving in a penalty area at set pieces, and sometimes if the ref sees it happening, a foul is given, but VAR wasn't looking at all the little incidents which happen in such situations. They were looking at whether or not there was a handball, and clearly there was. |
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