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Post by spoton on Jan 21, 2024 13:56:59 GMT
These next 2 could decide if we are in a real relegation battle or mid table safety, personally think we will be very lucky to get a point, QPR and Coventry games will be must win games but unfortunately our home form may again keep us in the bottom 5
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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 21, 2024 13:58:55 GMT
These next 2 could decide if we are in a real relegation battle or mid table safety, personally think we will be very lucky to get a point, QPR and Coventry games will be must win games but unfortunately our home form may again keep us in the bottom 5 Coventry are the form team of the division, little chance of beating them. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jan 21, 2024 14:16:53 GMT
People are starting to get it we are in big trouble already, roll forward 4 game and very likely going to look a lot worse as two are against the real form teams , and QPR is a dog fight where we go with our face holding and shoulder shrugging , one hope might be an implosion at Sunderland where the first goal will be absolutely critical in determining the mood .
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 21, 2024 14:52:10 GMT
These next 2 could decide if we are in a real relegation battle or mid table safety, personally think we will be very lucky to get a point, QPR and Coventry games will be must win games but unfortunately our home form may again keep us in the bottom 5 Coventry are the form team of the division, little chance of beating them. Your not wrong, but Boro were the division's form team and we went there and beat them fair and square, unlike the "lucky" win against Leeds. That's the point with the Championship it all depends on how you perform on the day, the last game is history. Anyone can beat anyone. If the players knuckle down like Burger has and give their all for each other, anything is possible. (I'm not Shuey!  ) |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 21, 2024 15:27:20 GMT
Anyone can beat anyone at this level.
We were in the game v Leicester until the 88th min and that was with Neil and his ridiculous tactics and subs .
I didn't realise Sunderland and Coventry were suddenly teams to fear and not expected to be able to compete against.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Jan 21, 2024 15:38:44 GMT
It is still extremely early days in Schumacher's reign and, based on the improvements that we have already seen, I think that it would take a complete collapse for us to be sucked into a relegation battle.
This is an unpredictable league where everyone beats everyone else - quite often form means very little.
However, there are two big caveats in all of this which Schumacher needs to resolve:
a) Our home form - especially our ability to break down teams who sit in, defend deep, and look to frustrate us. The game yesterday was reminiscent of a lot of home matches over the last couple of years.
b) We need to sign a goalscorer - there are simply not enough goals in this team at the moment. You look through the squad and there is no one who looks even remotely likely to break into double figures. The fact that Thompson is our (joint) top goalscorer under Schumacher tells its own story.
Now that we have had the honeymoon period, this is where Schumacher is going to have to earn his corn.
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Post by PotterLog on Jan 21, 2024 15:56:07 GMT
I still worry about us in the longer term but Schumacher’s Stoke would have to be cataclysmically bad - worse than almost everything we’ve seen in the last six years in this wretched division - for us to go down this season. We have plenty enough to avoid that, our aversion to goalscoring notwithstanding.
We’re fine, even if we contrive to lose the next two.
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Post by Northy on Jan 21, 2024 16:11:09 GMT
Anyone can beat anyone at this level. We were in the game v Leicester until the 88th min and that was with Neil and his ridiculous tactics and subs . I didn't realise Sunderland and Coventry were suddenly teams to fear and not expected to be able to compete against. Coventry took 4500 up to Sheffield Wednesday yesterday, seem to be on a roll atm. We can burst their tyres |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 21, 2024 16:15:20 GMT
Anyone can beat anyone at this level. We were in the game v Leicester until the 88th min and that was with Neil and his ridiculous tactics and subs . I didn't realise Sunderland and Coventry were suddenly teams to fear and not expected to be able to compete against. Coventry took 4500 up to Sheffield Wednesday yesterday, seem to be on a roll atm. We can burst their tyres Yep going well and be tough but nothing to fear. |
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Jan 21, 2024 16:17:13 GMT
Sunderland supporting friend of mine says the club is an absolute shit show when it looked so good a couple of months ago.
The board up there and the new manager are universally despised and the unrest is getting worse.
He also says Clarke is pretty much the entire team, stop him and you stop their whole game.
For the love of god don’t pick Hoever unless he’s going with the back 3 option. Wilmot would be a better option on the right of the 3 though.
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Post by Block 26 on Jan 21, 2024 16:19:27 GMT
We will be somewhere around mid table come the end of the season. I don’t fear anyone in this league under SS because we are more than capable of giving everyone a game. It’s fine margins in football & on another day we would have scored 4 or 5 yesterday. We’re not going up & we’re not going down imo but at least we’re seeing some decent football after 6 years of shite.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Jan 21, 2024 16:22:33 GMT
Next 2 games will define our season lose both & things could look a little tricky.
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Post by haway on Jan 21, 2024 18:49:32 GMT
That’s our new manager (spot on impression by the way).
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Post by ChesterStokie on Jan 21, 2024 19:03:50 GMT
Next 2 games will define our season lose both & things could look a little tricky. Seriously? I really can’t think of 2 games in our recent history that were less likely to define a season. |
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Post by hazzascfc1 on Jan 21, 2024 19:42:48 GMT
If we get the first goal against Sunderland, I imagine it will turn toxic for them as they all hate the manager. But we never score first
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 21, 2024 20:18:47 GMT
If we get the first goal against Sunderland, I imagine it will turn toxic for them as they all hate the manager. But we never score first apart from 5 of the last 9 matches, the other was goaless |
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Post by tuum on Jan 21, 2024 22:28:35 GMT
That’s our new manager (spot on impression by the way). Off topic but curious. Are things really that bad after just 5 weeks?Does Beale have any redeeming features at all? If fans are really calling for his head so soon you can't help thinking that his coat is on a shaky nail! |
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Post by kerouac on Jan 21, 2024 22:40:52 GMT
Get a grip for goodness sake....
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Post by jeycov on Jan 21, 2024 22:55:18 GMT
These next 2 could decide if we are in a real relegation battle or mid table safety, personally think we will be very lucky to get a point, QPR and Coventry games will be must win games but unfortunately our home form may again keep us in the bottom 5 Coventry are the form team of the division, little chance of beating them. They were when we beat them 4-0 at their place last season 🤔 |
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Post by jokker on Jan 22, 2024 8:31:31 GMT
These next 2 could decide if we are in a real relegation battle or mid table safety, personally think we will be very lucky to get a point, QPR and Coventry games will be must win games but unfortunately our home form may again keep us in the bottom 5 Coventry are the form team of the division, little chance of beating them. when we have little chance of beating a team, that's when we usually/quite often do... |
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Post by baconburger on Jan 22, 2024 8:57:18 GMT
Sunderland supporting friend of mine says the club is an absolute shit show when it looked so good a couple of months ago. The board up there and the new manager are universally despised and the unrest is getting worse. He also says Clarke is pretty much the entire team, stop him and you stop their whole game. For the love of god don’t pick Hoever unless he’s going with the back 3 option. Wilmot would be a better option on the right of the 3 though. Yup Clarke is top drawer at this level and has a good record against us and Hoever in particular. Even when we beat them 1-5 he had him on toast a number of times. If we can deal with him it will go a long way to making our day. All we have to then is learn how to score. |
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Post by haway on Jan 22, 2024 16:11:13 GMT
That’s our new manager (spot on impression by the way). Off topic but curious. Are things really that bad after just 5 weeks?Does Beale have any redeeming features at all? If fans are really calling for his head so soon you can't help thinking that his coat is on a shaky nail! He has a lot of things going against him from the off: -Has an arrogant demeanour. -Doesn’t usually take responsibility for things going wrong. -Throws the young players under the bus when a mistake is made. -Very cautious tactically, not brave enough. -Is unpopular with fans at his last two clubs in QPR & Rangers. He is the replacement for a manager who may seem sour, but is someone who plays good football and is very good with young players - a very good fit for us. Beale just seems totally the opposite because he doesn’t seem to trust young players as much. When Mowbray went, I could see the thinking behind it if we went for a progressive highly rated (likely overseas) head coach, but Beale coming in just felt like a right piss take. It’ll be like you lot replacing Schumacher with Nigel Adkins. Where’s the logic in that? The fact that he said ‘sacked in the morning’ isn’t a fair chant towards our players just shows how bonkers he is. Clearly chanting towards him and he thinks it might be getting the players down. Majority of the players will likely want him gone too. 3-0 defeat for us against you lot I reckon. Edit: Redeeming features - cheap. |
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Post by raythesailor on Jan 23, 2024 15:46:34 GMT
Off topic but curious. Are things really that bad after just 5 weeks?Does Beale have any redeeming features at all? If fans are really calling for his head so soon you can't help thinking that his coat is on a shaky nail! He has a lot of things going against him from the off: -Has an arrogant demeanour. -Doesn’t usually take responsibility for things going wrong. -Throws the young players under the bus when a mistake is made. -Very cautious tactically, not brave enough. -Is unpopular with fans at his last two clubs in QPR & Rangers. He is the replacement for a manager who may seem sour, but is someone who plays good football and is very good with young players - a very good fit for us. Beale just seems totally the opposite because he doesn’t seem to trust young players as much. When Mowbray went, I could see the thinking behind it if we went for a progressive highly rated (likely overseas) head coach, but Beale coming in just felt like a right piss take. It’ll be like you lot replacing Schumacher with Nigel Adkins. Where’s the logic in that? The fact that he said ‘sacked in the morning’ isn’t a fair chant towards our players just shows how bonkers he is. Clearly chanting towards him and he thinks it might be getting the players down. Majority of the players will likely want him gone too. 3-0 defeat for us against you lot I reckon. Edit: Redeeming features - cheap. A refreshingly honest post from a visitor. Your contributions are always welcome and interesting.😉 |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 23, 2024 15:53:13 GMT
Unless we start converting chances we very much are in a relegation battled based on the last 14 games.
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Post by nonameface on Jan 23, 2024 17:02:37 GMT
Unless we start converting chances we very much are in a relegation battled based on the last 14 games. If ourselves, QPR, Sheffield Wednesday and Rotherham maintain that form we stay up as we've got a big enough lead. Also, over the last 5 league games we've got more points than all of them, so the players really don't need to panic. |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jan 23, 2024 17:15:20 GMT
If we went about each game in the manner of which we have been doing under Schumacher, especially as we did against Birmingham, BUT... with a decent striker, we'd be fine!!!
It's our lack of scoring that's really costing us now!!!
I'd swap that Birmingham lad, Stansfield, for Mmaee any day!!!
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jan 24, 2024 1:22:23 GMT
Unless we start converting chances we very much are in a relegation battled based on the last 14 games. Says it all we are heading for big trouble courtesy of those that ran last summer |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 24, 2024 7:17:22 GMT
Unless we start converting chances we very much are in a relegation battled based on the last 14 games. Says it all we are heading for big trouble courtesy of those that ran last summer We could be. We won’t be….. |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jan 24, 2024 7:31:33 GMT
If QPR beat Huddersfield at home this weekend and we lose, we’ll only be 5 points above the drop.
We definitely need to keep one eye open and start winning some games.
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Post by thisisouryear on Jan 24, 2024 7:40:47 GMT
Unless we start converting chances we very much are in a relegation battled based on the last 14 games. Says it all we are heading for big trouble courtesy of those that ran last summer Going off our last 6 games we are 8th in the form table. If we throw Alex Neil's games in there it will look shite because he was a shite manager. Schumacher is getting a tune out of this team currently and if it continues we will be a solid mid table team come the end of the season. The players look like they are enjoying themselves, the fans are fairly happy, the club is coming together nicely. Teams always play worse under a negative atmosphere and that's not there anymore because most people are starting to feel a buzz again which hasn't happened for a long time. We aren't in trouble, we are moving up. Even if the players we need don't arrive it won't be for the lack of effort from the club it will be because the players we need aren't available at a price we can afford to pay but still there is enough here to keep us around mid table come the end of the season. If we do get the players we need we may look like a top half team, we aren't that far away. |
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