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Post by loyalstripey on Jan 18, 2024 20:23:28 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-bae-junho-thompson-9043954“He's a bit different because he can play anywhere,” said the head coach. “He could play in the wide positions, he can play as an eight. I wouldn't see him as being a holding midfield player – and not left-back just yet! – but he’s talented, he’s got real quality and good energy as well and he can go past people. “I’ve been speaking to Junho and trying to get the message across to him about being a bit more clinical, making the right pass in the final third because that’s all he’s missing in his game, one or two goals or assists, but that will come. We forget he’s still such a young player.” “He's great. He's always smiling. I’m not too sure he always understands me fully but you can pull him to one side and show him differently, go through video clips and information on the tactics board if we can. He’s great.” And that, fellow Potters, is man management at its best... at last we have a manager that can connect, motivate and be admired by his team
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Post by lordb on Jan 18, 2024 22:40:22 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-bae-junho-thompson-9043954“He's a bit different because he can play anywhere,” said the head coach. “He could play in the wide positions, he can play as an eight. I wouldn't see him as being a holding midfield player – and not left-back just yet! – but he’s talented, he’s got real quality and good energy as well and he can go past people. “I’ve been speaking to Junho and trying to get the message across to him about being a bit more clinical, making the right pass in the final third because that’s all he’s missing in his game, one or two goals or assists, but that will come. We forget he’s still such a young player.” “He's great. He's always smiling. I’m not too sure he always understands me fully but you can pull him to one side and show him differently, go through video clips and information on the tactics board if we can. He’s great.” And that, fellow Potters, is man management at its best... at last we have a manager that can connect, motivate and be admired by his team Needs to be complimented with a football savvy money smart DoF Michael O'Neill as that, Stevie running the team Maybe am being harsh on Tricky, after all Schumacher was his pick, but just can't get on board with Technical Director having no genuine football pedigree
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 19, 2024 9:09:01 GMT
And that, fellow Potters, is man management at its best... at last we have a manager that can connect, motivate and be admired by his team Needs to be complimented with a football savvy money smart DoF Michael O'Neill as that, Stevie running the team Maybe am being harsh on Tricky, after all Schumacher was his pick, but just can't get on board with Technical Director having no genuine football pedigree The potential problem of having an ex-manager as a Technical is that they might be inclined to put their oar in on footballing matters and create friction with the coach. Having a non-footballing Technical Director means they can focus on all the other crap and leave the coach in exclusive charge of what goes on on the pitch.
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Post by baconburger on Jan 19, 2024 9:25:57 GMT
And that, fellow Potters, is man management at its best... at last we have a manager that can connect, motivate and be admired by his team Needs to be complimented with a football savvy money smart DoF Michael O'Neill as that, Stevie running the team Maybe am being harsh on Tricky, after all Schumacher was his pick, but just can't get on board with Technical Director having no genuine football pedigree I know exactly what you mean but now he’s here I think we’ve just got to give him a chance. I don’t know how certain posters seem to get their knickers in such a twist about him. We haven’t really got a clue whether he’s good at what he does as yet and as for the corporate speak he gets ridiculed for I’ve worked with really good people who can turn it on and off at the drop of a hat depending on who is around. They know how to play the game and don’t mind performing to get on. It was never for me but I also know they’re not necessarily dickheads, climbing the greasy pole just trumps self worth in their minds.
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Post by baconburger on Jan 19, 2024 9:36:37 GMT
Needs to be complimented with a football savvy money smart DoF Michael O'Neill as that, Stevie running the team Maybe am being harsh on Tricky, after all Schumacher was his pick, but just can't get on board with Technical Director having no genuine football pedigree The potential problem of having an ex-manager as a Technical is that they might be inclined to put their oar in on footballing matters and create friction with the coach. Having a non-footballing Technical Director means they can focus on all the other crap and leave the coach in exclusive charge of what goes on on the pitch. Yeah if you’re having an ex manager you definitely want one that is clear they have had enough of the day to day involvement with playing matters and will only interfere in things when asked or when the head coach tries to depart from the blueprint he was given/agreed to when employed. The head coach should make the calls on selection and game plans etc within parameters agreed, you can’t just let them go all Richie Barker on you or else there is no point in the structure. That’s just god manager by a different title.
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Post by lordb on Jan 19, 2024 19:23:42 GMT
Needs to be complimented with a football savvy money smart DoF Michael O'Neill as that, Stevie running the team Maybe am being harsh on Tricky, after all Schumacher was his pick, but just can't get on board with Technical Director having no genuine football pedigree I know exactly what you mean but now he’s here I think we’ve just got to give him a chance. I don’t know how certain posters seem to get their knickers in such a twist about him. We haven’t really got a clue whether he’s good at what he does as yet and as for the corporate speak he gets ridiculed for I’ve worked with really good people who can turn it on and off at the drop of a hat depending on who is around. They know how to play the game and don’t mind performing to get on. It was never for me but I also know they’re not necessarily dickheads, climbing the greasy pole just trumps self worth in their minds. The nonsense jargon really grates Maybe should just ignore it Just think Michael O'Neill skill set suits that position
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Post by baconburger on Jan 19, 2024 19:36:17 GMT
I know exactly what you mean but now he’s here I think we’ve just got to give him a chance. I don’t know how certain posters seem to get their knickers in such a twist about him. We haven’t really got a clue whether he’s good at what he does as yet and as for the corporate speak he gets ridiculed for I’ve worked with really good people who can turn it on and off at the drop of a hat depending on who is around. They know how to play the game and don’t mind performing to get on. It was never for me but I also know they’re not necessarily dickheads, climbing the greasy pole just trumps self worth in their minds. The nonsense jargon really grates Maybe should just ignore it Just think Michael O'Neill skill set suits that position I think it’s a shame he damaged his credibility at the end, he did some really good work at the club. I’m not sure with his mindset you end up with a head coach like Schu. As such I’ll suffer Ricky’s bullshit corporate speak. It’s delivering a mindset and recruitment model that I have craved, even if I haven’t got a clue what he did in his life before Norwich and my initial question was who’s he? I’d never heard of Jared Dublin either tbf but I feel quite positive about him too. I can even forgive him if he identified Ryan Mmaee which I guess he did, you can’t get it right all the time.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jan 19, 2024 19:36:24 GMT
A player who I'm excited to watch play football.
Burger and Tchamadeu also.
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Post by banksy1art on Jan 19, 2024 19:49:37 GMT
A player who I'm excited to watch play football. Burger and Tchamadeu also. them 3 players right there are our future. All very young, and are our players, not loans!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2024 19:52:04 GMT
A player who I'm excited to watch play football. Burger and Tchamadeu also. them 3 players right there are our future. All very young, and are our players, not loans! Unfortunately, only our short term future But we have to keep digging out these kind of signings if we want to make it back to the fucked up promised land of the VAR league
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 21, 2024 8:21:24 GMT
It’d be lovely to have a manager who could play him in his actual position.
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Post by collo68 on Jan 21, 2024 8:35:15 GMT
It’d be lovely to have a manager who could play him in his actual position. Where’s that
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 21, 2024 8:36:03 GMT
It’d be lovely to have a manager who could play him in his actual position. Where’s that He’s a number 10
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Post by collo68 on Jan 21, 2024 8:42:49 GMT
I wouldn’t necessarily disagree but the whole system would have to be changed for one player and he isn’t going to do that. He’s a great prospect but doesn’t look like he going to score and needs more composure which I guess comes with time
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 21, 2024 8:45:42 GMT
I wouldn’t necessarily disagree but the whole system would have to be changed for one player and he isn’t going to do that. He’s a great prospect but doesn’t look like he going to score and needs more composure which I guess comes with time The whole system absolutely should be changed yes. We have another manager trying the same formation at home and getting the same results. Seems very idiotic to me.
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Post by collo68 on Jan 21, 2024 8:47:49 GMT
I wouldn’t necessarily disagree but the whole system would have to be changed for one player and he isn’t going to do that. He’s a great prospect but doesn’t look like he going to score and needs more composure which I guess comes with time The whole system absolutely should be changed yes. We have another manager trying the same formation at home and getting the same results. Seems very idiotic to me. I think we can all see the footballs a lot different though and if we played that game 10 times again we would probably win 7/8 Let’s hope we can get a forward in over the next few weeks
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 21, 2024 8:49:14 GMT
The whole system absolutely should be changed yes. We have another manager trying the same formation at home and getting the same results. Seems very idiotic to me. I think we can all see the footballs a lot different though and if we played that game 10 times again we would probably win 7/8 Let’s hope we can get a forward in over the next few weeks We wouldn’t. It was a carbon copy of the last 5 years at home. Can’t defend. Can’t score. It’s what we do.
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Post by collo68 on Jan 21, 2024 8:50:28 GMT
I think we can all see the footballs a lot different though and if we played that game 10 times again we would probably win 7/8 Let’s hope we can get a forward in over the next few weeks We wouldn’t. It was a carbon copy of the last 5 years at home. Can’t defend. Can’t score. It’s what we do. What a load of rubbish Conversation over
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 21, 2024 8:51:59 GMT
We wouldn’t. It was a carbon copy of the last 5 years at home. Can’t defend. Can’t score. It’s what we do. What a load of rubbish Conversation over It’s not though is it. Yesterday was classic us. We make 2 mistakes and get punished. And we can’t finish our dinner. If you’re crap at both ends of the pitch and lose then you get what you deserve.
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Post by mattythestokie on Jan 21, 2024 8:52:31 GMT
He plays so freely like someone who is just playing football down the local pitches having the time of his life. He needs the freedom of playing in the middle to get all over the pitch cause his legs can absolutely do it.
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Post by proudstokie on Jan 21, 2024 9:13:24 GMT
Have to agree with Bayern here. If we take our rose tinted Schumacher glasses off, yes the football was nicer on the eye but the same problems exist. Weak at the back and can’t score.
I can’t lay any blame at Schumacher for our defence however
When Schumacher first arrived, he was a breath of fresh air because everything he did made sense.
The Cundle signing has made us unbalanced, with having Baker and Junho, in there already, we have three 8’s or 10’s. Mmaee is still left painfully isolated up top.
Whilst we’re still weak at set pieces any team that sits in and makes it difficult know they’ll get gifted a chance at some point.
Burger, Junior and Juhno have been a revelation under Schumacher and their quality is showing, but there is still a lot to sort out before we consistently win games at this level.
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Post by chuckrocky on Jan 21, 2024 9:22:12 GMT
What a load of rubbish Conversation over It’s not though is it. Yesterday was classic us. We make 2 mistakes and get punished. And we can’t finish our dinner. If you’re crap at both ends of the pitch and lose then you get what you deserve. That’s nothing to do with the system though, that’s down to individuals and it doesn’t matter what system we use our defenders will still make costly mistakes every week and our strikers will miss chances.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 21, 2024 9:35:41 GMT
It’s not though is it. Yesterday was classic us. We make 2 mistakes and get punished. And we can’t finish our dinner. If you’re crap at both ends of the pitch and lose then you get what you deserve. That’s nothing to do with the system though, that’s down to individuals and it doesn’t matter what system we use our defenders will still make costly mistakes every week and our strikers will miss chances. I think we carried Cundle though and I thought we only created one good chance that should have been scored. Getting Junho where he can influence more you would hope improve the quality of chances created.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 21, 2024 9:36:37 GMT
Have to agree with Bayern here. If we take our rose tinted Schumacher glasses off, yes the football was nicer on the eye but the same problems exist. Weak at the back and can’t score. I can’t lay any blame at Schumacher for our defence however When Schumacher first arrived, he was a breath of fresh air because everything he did made sense. The Cundle signing has made us unbalanced, with having Baker and Junho, in there already, we have three 8’s or 10’s. Mmaee is still left painfully isolated up top. Whilst we’re still weak at set pieces any team that sits in and makes it difficult know they’ll get gifted a chance at some point. Burger, Junior and Juhno have been a revelation under Schumacher and their quality is showing, but there is still a lot to sort out before we consistently win games at this level. Nah, don’t agree at all. 9/10 times you win that game and say “bloody hell, that was good”. There was nothing wrong in terms of system or approach, just one of those days. Yes we’ve had them before and it’s very much unsurprising, but other than bringing himself on and scoring I’m not sure what the boss could have done. I didn’t see anything unbalanced, just a healthy dose of competition for places. I’ve not seen us play that well for ages. I think under Neil against Rotherham where we lost 1-0 at home we had better chances but some of the football second half yesterday was outstanding.
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Post by proudstokie on Jan 21, 2024 9:46:51 GMT
Have to agree with Bayern here. If we take our rose tinted Schumacher glasses off, yes the football was nicer on the eye but the same problems exist. Weak at the back and can’t score. I can’t lay any blame at Schumacher for our defence however When Schumacher first arrived, he was a breath of fresh air because everything he did made sense. The Cundle signing has made us unbalanced, with having Baker and Junho, in there already, we have three 8’s or 10’s. Mmaee is still left painfully isolated up top. Whilst we’re still weak at set pieces any team that sits in and makes it difficult know they’ll get gifted a chance at some point. Burger, Junior and Juhno have been a revelation under Schumacher and their quality is showing, but there is still a lot to sort out before we consistently win games at this level. Nah, don’t agree at all. 9/10 times you win that game and say “bloody hell, that was good”. There was nothing wrong in terms of system or approach, just one of those days. Yes we’ve had them before and it’s very much unsurprising, but other than brining himself on and scoring I’m not sure what the boss could have done. I didn’t see anything unbalanced, just a healthy dose of competition for places. I’ve not seen us play that well for ages. I think under Neil against Rotherham where we lost 1-0 at home we had better chances but some of the football second half yesterday was outstanding. I’d agree with you if yesterday was a blip and not the norm. We looked a lot better yesterday because Burger was sensational How many point blank saves did their keeper make, how many cleared off the line, how many times did we hit the woodwork, how many goal mouth scrambles. We weren’t unlucky, we plodded against a team that sat back and took it and then gifted them the 3 points, which is the story of our existence in the championship. A lot to work on.
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Post by HappyClapper on Jan 21, 2024 9:47:53 GMT
The longer he stays the better he will get. Imagine him with a Schumacher pre-season under his belt🙂
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 21, 2024 9:52:18 GMT
Nah, don’t agree at all. 9/10 times you win that game and say “bloody hell, that was good”. There was nothing wrong in terms of system or approach, just one of those days. Yes we’ve had them before and it’s very much unsurprising, but other than brining himself on and scoring I’m not sure what the boss could have done. I didn’t see anything unbalanced, just a healthy dose of competition for places. I’ve not seen us play that well for ages. I think under Neil against Rotherham where we lost 1-0 at home we had better chances but some of the football second half yesterday was outstanding. I’d agree with you if yesterday was a blip and not the norm. We looked a lot better yesterday because Burger was sensational How many point blank saves did their keeper make, how many cleared off the line, how many times did we hit the woodwork, how many goal mouth scrambles. We weren’t unlucky, we plodded against a team that sat back and took it and then gifted them the 3 points, which is the story of our existence in the championship. A lot to work on. Yup it’s the blue print to playing us at home. Sit back. You know we’ll gift you a goal or two. And you know we’ll miss lots or just not create much. It’s only been going on for half a decade 🤣
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 21, 2024 10:50:50 GMT
I’d agree with you if yesterday was a blip and not the norm. We looked a lot better yesterday because Burger was sensational How many point blank saves did their keeper make, how many cleared off the line, how many times did we hit the woodwork, how many goal mouth scrambles. We weren’t unlucky, we plodded against a team that sat back and took it and then gifted them the 3 points, which is the story of our existence in the championship. A lot to work on. Yup it’s the blue print to playing us at home. Sit back. You know we’ll gift you a goal or two. And you know we’ll miss lots or just not create much. It’s only been going on for half a decade 🤣 What, so Birmingham’s game plan yesterday was to concede 24 shots, get battered and presume they’d still win the game? Utter bollocks. Yes, teams know we have our limitations and we were the masters of our own downfall yesterday but Birmingham were extremely lucky to win that, and they didn’t win it because of their approach to it. Schumacher doesn’t go out there and tell us to go 2-0 down does he? I’m failing to see what else he can do there. There have been times in the past where we’ve gone behind and you know they are going to shut up shop and nullify us. That was in no way the case yesterday. It should have been 1-1 before it was 0-2 and it should still have been at least a point after we went 0-2 down.
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Post by headsgoup on Jan 21, 2024 10:53:29 GMT
He plays in the midfield 3 of a 433, or he's the middle man of the 3 in 4231.
That's it.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jan 21, 2024 10:57:51 GMT
Yup it’s the blue print to playing us at home. Sit back. You know we’ll gift you a goal or two. And you know we’ll miss lots or just not create much. It’s only been going on for half a decade 🤣 What, so Birmingham’s game plan yesterday was to concede 24 shots, get battered and presume they’d still win the game? Utter bollocks. Yes, teams know we have our limitations and we were the masters of our own downfall yesterday but Birmingham were extremely lucky to win that, and they didn’t win it because of their approach to it. Schumacher doesn’t go out there and tell us to go 2-0 down does he? I’m failing to see what else he can do there. There have been times in the past where we’ve gone behind and you know they are going to shut up shop and nullify us. That was in no way the case yesterday. It should have been 1-1 before it was 0-2 and it should still have been at least a point after we went 0-2 down. Possibly the most positive I've ever walked away from a home defeat. My only real concern is we need either a) one of our strikers starts banging em in or b) we get a striker in. The rest of the team however is definitely moving in the right direction. First goal conceded was sloppy but we'll tighten up on stuff like that. And not much we can do about the free kick except not give it away in the first place. Another day we could and we will win that 4-1.
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