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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 24, 2023 13:26:02 GMT
What’s Tezgel up to?
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Post by spirered on Dec 24, 2023 13:26:24 GMT
Based on the future...he's the only player (exc Burger) that has the potential to play at a higher level. I'd start grooming him now for a centre half role, with the intention of selling him for £20m + in a couple of years time.. If we are discussing playing players based on evidence, then that's a flimsy argument. The whole team is evidentually crap. But he’s best at going forwards. Why would you take that away and try to make him a central defender, a position where you don’t really attack? Probably because we have one of the poorest pair of centre backs in the division. I'd start by making us harder to beat, before relying on an attacking full back
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 24, 2023 13:28:31 GMT
I always find it hilarious when we get one of these threads. We regularly moan our bags off at the team the manager picks but then when we're given the opportunity to display our tactical nouse some of the selections look like they're LSD inspired. Well successive managers haven't proven to be any better...they can't all be on drugs 😂 Perhaps that's what's been missing.
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Post by oslostokie1 on Dec 24, 2023 13:45:22 GMT
GK: New RB: Tchamadeu LB: Gooch CB: McNally CB: Wilmot MID: Burger + Pearson + Laurent ATT MID: Baker (give him a chance) ATT: Mmaee + new signing
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Post by alic210390 on Dec 24, 2023 13:51:34 GMT
I'd like to see 2 upfront because Mmaee to's small he definitely needs a partner with him
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Post by pavel on Dec 24, 2023 13:52:54 GMT
With what we have got
Bonham
Junior - McNally- Wilmot/ Rose - Gooch/Tompson
Burger
Bae - Baker
Campbell- Mmaee - Vidigal
Bit worried about the defensive side but hopefully it would be able to create going forward.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 24, 2023 13:53:10 GMT
GK: New RB: Tchamadeu LB: Gooch CB: McNally CB: Wilmot MID: Burger + Pearson + Laurent ATT MID: Baker (give him a chance) ATT: Mmaee + new signing Well if we're playing the New game. GK New RB Junior CB McNally CB Wilmot LB New DM Burger DM Laurent RF Campbell CAM Junho LF Vidigal CF New Obviously that's trying to stay realistic. If we're just being daft just replace the lot with better.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2023 13:56:07 GMT
An eleven that doesn't include the following would be ideal.... Bonham Gooch Hoever Rose Wilmot Pearson Leris Thompson Laurent Mmaee Wesley Vidigal Johnson When you look at that list it nails it, in my opinion anyway, that Alex Neil was wanker than I actually ever thought he could be or would be
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Post by lordb on Dec 24, 2023 13:56:17 GMT
Bonham Junior McNally Rose Gooch Pearson Burger Campbell Bae Vidigal Mmaee Bar Bonham and Rose I really like the look of that team and it should easily be mid table. Gooch shouldn’t be a regular either. Even though he's playing well pretty much every game he plays?
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 24, 2023 13:57:52 GMT
I don't think Mmaee will ever be a success in a 433, certainly as the lone striker.
Whether he could be okay deeper, although I'd much prefer Bae there, who could go on to be special, or whether you rip it up and give him a partner, I don't know.
But he isn't good enough at the ugly or back to goal stuff to play on his own. He's got something (although I'm sure Trousers would disagree) but he looks a bit of a whiny sod who's a bit lost in English football.
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Post by glpotter on Dec 24, 2023 14:00:24 GMT
With the squad right now
Bonham
Junior McNally Rose Gooch
Burger Pearson
Junho
Campbell Wesley Leris
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Post by baconburger on Dec 24, 2023 14:10:41 GMT
Bonham Junior McNally Rose Gooch Pearson Burger Campbell Bae Vidigal Mmaee Bar Bonham and Rose I really like the look of that team and it should easily be mid table. Gooch shouldn’t be a regular either. Even though he's playing well pretty much every game he plays? Strange idea of playing well. He's created nothing other than a miss hit cross and gets beaten time and time again at FB. Beaten numerous times yesterday but some of our fans lap up his Scrappy Doo/Tigger impression. He's garbage.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 24, 2023 14:16:50 GMT
I don't think Mmaee will ever be a success in a 433, certainly as the lone striker. Whether he could be okay deeper, although I'd much prefer Bae there, who could go on to be special, or whether you rip it up and give him a partner, I don't know. But he isn't good enough at the ugly or back to goal stuff to play on his own. He's got something (although I'm sure Trousers would disagree) but he looks a bit of a whiny sod who's a bit lost in English football. Spends far too much time lying on the ground crying and protesting and expecting English football to adapt to him not him adapt to it. Now Vidigal has taken a leaf out of his book. Man up or fuck off.
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Dec 24, 2023 14:21:39 GMT
Bonham Tchamedan Burger McNally Gooch Thompson Pearson Bae Baker Campbell Mmae I suppose we all tend to start drinking earlier over the Christmas period 😂
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 24, 2023 14:26:25 GMT
With our current squad
Bonham
Junior McNally Rose Thompson
Laurent or Pearson Burger Bae
Campbell Mmaee Vidigal
*In January*
New GK
Junior McNally New CB (a commanding one) New LB
Burger Laurent or Pearson Bae
New WF New target man Vidigal (don’t write him off) He’d thrive off a decent mobile target man
I still think Mmaee with the right support could be decent. Needs better service and can’t play up on his own.
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Post by Veritas on Dec 24, 2023 14:56:12 GMT
Tchamedan as a centre back! Based on what evidence? Campbell & Mmaee as the front two for a manager who expects a high energy game! I doubt it. Based on the future...he's the only player (exc Burger) that has the potential to play at a higher level. I'd start grooming him now for a centre half role, with the intention of selling him for £20m + in a couple of years time.. If we are discussing playing players based on evidence, then that's a flimsy argument. The whole team is evidentually crap. And what exactly, other than extreme wishful thinking, indicates he would thrive at centre back?
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Post by nonameface on Dec 24, 2023 15:16:58 GMT
Home games of those where the opposition are likely to sit:
Hoever, Wilmot, McNally, Stevens Haks, Laurent, Burger Campbell, Mmaee, Vidigal
Where we are sat in more:
Junior, Wilmot, McNally, Stevens Laurent, Pearson, Burger Lleris/Haks, Junho Mmaee
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 24, 2023 15:25:24 GMT
Bonham
Junior McNally Rose Thompson
Burger Baker
Junho
Campbell Mmaee Haks
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Dec 24, 2023 15:29:48 GMT
Not the one who runs the CCP that's for sure.........pass me my coat 😆
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Post by thisisouryear on Dec 24, 2023 15:36:07 GMT
Bonham Junior McNally Rose Stevens Wilmot Burger Campbell Junho Vidigal Mmaee
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Post by spirered on Dec 24, 2023 15:38:28 GMT
Based on the future...he's the only player (exc Burger) that has the potential to play at a higher level. I'd start grooming him now for a centre half role, with the intention of selling him for £20m + in a couple of years time.. If we are discussing playing players based on evidence, then that's a flimsy argument. The whole team is evidentually crap. And what exactly, other than extreme wishful thinking, indicates he would thrive at centre back? Intelligence 💪
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 24, 2023 16:02:09 GMT
Bonham Junior McNally Rose Gooch Pearson Burger Campbell Bae Vidigal Mmaee Bar Bonham and Rose I really like the look of that team and it should easily be mid table. Gooch shouldn’t be a regular either. Even though he's playing well pretty much every game he plays? Yes.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 24, 2023 16:17:04 GMT
Bonham Junior McNally Rose Gooch Pearson Burger Campbell Bae Vidigal Mmaee Bar Bonham and Rose I really like the look of that team and it should easily be mid table. Gooch shouldn’t be a regular either. Very similar to mine. I think most people can see it just hope the head coach can. There’s goals in that team. I’d go with Thompson at LB though as I think he’s more disciplined defensively. Also I think Laurent will be much better after Neil’s gone. Come January we really need a GK and commanding CB in asap as I think it’ll make a huge difference to our confidence.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 24, 2023 16:19:27 GMT
Bonham Junior McNally Rose Gooch Pearson Burger Campbell Bae Vidigal Mmaee Bar Bonham and Rose I really like the look of that team and it should easily be mid table. Gooch shouldn’t be a regular either. Very similar to mine. I think most people can see it just hope the head coach can. There’s goals in that team. I’d go with Thompson at LB though as I think he’s more disciplined defensively. Also I think Laurent will be much better after Neil’s gone. Come January we really need a GK and commanding CB in asap as I think it’ll make a huge difference to our confidence. The league table tends to disagree.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 24, 2023 16:27:36 GMT
Very similar to mine. I think most people can see it just hope the head coach can. There’s goals in that team. I’d go with Thompson at LB though as I think he’s more disciplined defensively. Also I think Laurent will be much better after Neil’s gone. Come January we really need a GK and commanding CB in asap as I think it’ll make a huge difference to our confidence. The league table tends to disagree. Maybe because we’ve not played to the system that suits the players yet. I don’t remember us once playing that formation all season. Closest we came to it was when Bae came on yesterday and we looked very good for 15-20 mins.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 24, 2023 16:36:17 GMT
The league table tends to disagree. Maybe because we’ve not played to the system that suits the players yet. I don’t remember us once playing that formation all season. Closest we came to it was when Bae came on yesterday and we looked very good for 15-20 mins. Put those same players in any formation you want there aren't anything like enough goals in the squad as it stands. AN didn't do well enough and was rightly sacked but to suggest he was such a handicap on those players ability to form a reasonably productive outfit is dream world. Two other football professionals have had a go since him and produced a team about as threatening as a kitten. The answers just aren't in there. I'm not saying all the players are rubbish( I do think some of them are and that's no shock or reflection on anyone) just that they need additions to complement their attributes.
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Dec 24, 2023 16:41:53 GMT
Bonham Tchamedan Burger McNally Gooch Thompson Pearson Bae Baker Campbell Mmae What’s this mess? Burger I think can be a great CH pulling the ball out. The wingback Thomson and Gooch are fillers but solid. Midfield is a good champ mid with those 3 and well Campbell and Mmae, it's all we have. Think it looks half decent. The wasters are not in it anyway
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Post by tqstokie on Dec 24, 2023 16:42:34 GMT
Play players in their correct positions, Gooch is not a left back he would be best played ahead of Junior on the right wing. Thompson needs to be played left side as a full back or left mid. Pearson for me needs to be replaced because he is slow, negative and liable to be booked or sent off. Play Bae as the 10 behind the "strikers". Mr Schumacher needs to find a settled team as quickly as possible.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 24, 2023 16:49:10 GMT
Maybe because we’ve not played to the system that suits the players yet. I don’t remember us once playing that formation all season. Closest we came to it was when Bae came on yesterday and we looked very good for 15-20 mins. Put those same players in any formation you want there aren't anything like enough goals in the squad as it stands. AN didn't do well enough and was rightly sacked but to suggest he was such a handicap on those players ability to form a reasonably productive outfit is dream world. Two other football professionals have had a go since him and produced a team about as threatening as a kitten. The answers just aren't in there. I'm not saying all the players are rubbish( I do think some of them are and that's no shock or reflection on anyone) just that they need additions to complement their attributes. I guess only time will tell but I do think we’ll get better. In some ways I think the biggest problem is that a large percentage of the squad hadn’t played in the Championship before and it’s been a tough bedding in period. Mmaee Vidigal Bae Leris Burger Wesley Hakes That’s a lot of new players to try and implement into a new league and in some cases a new country. In some ways Chelsea are having similar issues to us just with better players so they’re not in a relegation scrap.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 24, 2023 17:09:22 GMT
Put those same players in any formation you want there aren't anything like enough goals in the squad as it stands. AN didn't do well enough and was rightly sacked but to suggest he was such a handicap on those players ability to form a reasonably productive outfit is dream world. Two other football professionals have had a go since him and produced a team about as threatening as a kitten. The answers just aren't in there. I'm not saying all the players are rubbish( I do think some of them are and that's no shock or reflection on anyone) just that they need additions to complement their attributes. I guess only time will tell but I do think we’ll get better. In some ways I think the biggest problem is that a large percentage of the squad hadn’t played in the Championship before and it’s been a tough bedding in period. Mmaee Vidigal Bae Leris Burger Wesley Hakes That’s a lot of new players to try and implement into a new league and in some cases a new country. In some ways Chelsea are having similar issues to us just with better players so they’re not in a relegation scrap. I think a couple of those names are complete and utter nails. Even Vidigal I'd be tempted to ship out if his form lifts in the Spring. We've no long term commitment to a couple which is good. I think Pearson could become a long term problem we live to regret but that's more to do with wages and length of contract. If SS doesn't fancy him an AN doesn't go somewhere and come in for him I think he could be difficult to shift and become a bit of a millstone. I'm not seeing too many other long term problems it's a better picture than it's been for ages.
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