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Post by Roy Cropper on Jan 14, 2024 12:47:52 GMT
I thought his general play was good yesterday.
It's still been an age since a Stoke player scored a goal from open play. So even if he does only add goals, we're fucking desperate for them.
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Post by gingerninja on Jan 14, 2024 12:48:30 GMT
Rotherham made it into a scrap from kick off, they know their limitations and maximise what they have. I thought we dealt with their obvious threats fairly comfortably to be honest. I think his Plymouth sides were way more productive in the final third, maybe down to the players or a lower league, I think in time, we will become so much better in that department.
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Post by emretezzy on Jan 14, 2024 12:55:37 GMT
Baker is a decent Championship player but does have a goal in him which is what we need at the moment.
I prefer him to Laurent but I don't know if you can get out of this league with him in the heart of your team?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 14, 2024 12:57:38 GMT
All this talk of him being a lazy bastard with a bad attitude was always nonsense.
The reality was he was playing through the pain barrier with an injury that needed an operation and was probably low on confidence because of it……
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Post by boothenesque on Jan 14, 2024 13:06:08 GMT
Nut if it's not to be Baker, who are we going to have as the new fall guy, we have to have someone to slate?
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Post by dirtclod on Jan 14, 2024 13:18:39 GMT
Baker's been fine, just injured. He clearly needed a rest prior to injury, but AN and MON didn't seem to get the concept of "rotation." In MON's case, he always had tons of injuries going on, to some extent AN too, but Baker didn't start "falling off" until he'd played several games and I think he just needed a rest. The subsequent injury made it moot. He probably also didn't react well to the hyper-ridiculousness of the past two managerial reigns who seemed to switch formations every 5 minutes and clearly had the playing-personnel totally confused.
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Post by fca47 on Jan 14, 2024 13:21:08 GMT
Great goal , but didn't do a lot else. Prefer the Korean lad.
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Jan 14, 2024 13:31:19 GMT
Great goal , but didn't do a lot else. Prefer the Korean lad. We can play both
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 14, 2024 13:33:44 GMT
Great goal , but didn't do a lot else. Prefer the Korean lad. I like Bae a lot. However, he hasn’t yet scored in 19 games despite playing in attacking positions. He’s also only made 2 assists.
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Post by fca47 on Jan 14, 2024 13:47:24 GMT
Bit early to be rehabilitating Baker, he's only scored one goal, I just think Bae's general play has been promising, don't want to see him benched , for someone who although he scored that goal has been poor for the last couple of seasons.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 14, 2024 13:54:07 GMT
Bit early to be rehabilitating Baker, he's only scored one goal, I just think Bae's general play has been promising, don't want to see him benched , for someone who although he scored that goal has been poor for the last couple of seasons. He’s scored 2 in 2 and has looked the most likely to score since returning. I don’t know how you can be poor for a couple of seasons when last season was his first preseason with the club. Even last season, he finished as one of our top scorers despite not playing well, being injured and being tasked with midfield work (fulfilling the Smallbone role of running around like a headless chicken) that isn’t really in his wheelhouse.
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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 14, 2024 13:56:06 GMT
Bit early to be rehabilitating Baker, he's only scored one goal, I just think Bae's general play has been promising, don't want to see him benched , for someone who although he scored that goal has been poor for the last couple of seasons. If anything Haks or Cundle took Bae's place. Competition for places is good. Perhaps Bae will feel the need to improve his scoring record or assists if he feels his place is threatened. I don't think he will be dropped but played out wide to accommodate Baker and Cundle. He may need resting now, and then to protect him from burning out as I've never seen a player push himself more in a game.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 14, 2024 14:22:02 GMT
Baker has a strike rate of about a goal every 4.2 games, the same as Campbell
Impressive for a midfielder
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Post by chad on Jan 14, 2024 14:29:24 GMT
I don’t know why he went so far down bank from where he was , managers, injuries, attitude. But I know at his best he walks into any side in this league and a few in the Prem If he just needed a manager who trusted him it looks like he’s got one. Should play every week. He’ll get 8/10 goals a season. We’d be mad to let him go
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Post by jzime on Jan 14, 2024 15:12:32 GMT
We have to play Baker next game for me. Appreciate there is competition for places. I really like Junho too and am confident that we will be a very good player at this level.
But, for me, dropping a player who scored in the last fixture just sends out completely the wrong message. We need the whole squad to be pulling in the right direction atm. We need players who are really hungry and motivated to perform for the club, and the players believing that good performances will get them picked while poor ones will see them dropped (a la Daniel Johnson) is one way to do that.
Also, bluntly, we don't score enough goals and Baker always offers a threat going forward. So he should stay in the side on that basis alone.
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Post by raythesailor on Jan 14, 2024 15:36:20 GMT
I just wish the club and Chief Coach (as he is called nowadays) would put an end to these media reports I keep seeing saying we/they are prepared to accept offers for him.
We could not buy a player of his ability for the reported £2Mil, as they don't exist.⚓
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Jan 14, 2024 15:42:00 GMT
We have to play Baker next game for me. Appreciate there is competition for places. I really like Junho too and am confident that we will be a very good player at this level. But, for me, dropping a player who scored in the last fixture just sends out completely the wrong message. We need the whole squad to be pulling in the right direction atm. We need players who are really hungry and motivated to perform for the club, and the players believing that good performances will get them picked while poor ones will see them dropped (a la Daniel Johnson) is one way to do that. Also, bluntly, we don't score enough goals and Baker always offers a threat going forward. So he should stay in the side on that basis alone. Dropping Baker, in the form he’s clearly in now, would be little short of lunacy.
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Post by emretezzy on Jan 14, 2024 16:08:55 GMT
I just wish the club and Chief Coach (as he is called nowadays) would put an end to these media reports I keep seeing saying we/they are prepared to accept offers for him. We could not buy a player of his ability for the reported £2Mil, as they don't exist.⚓ That's a fair point, I think you could replicate the player but you would never be able to get a goal scoring midfielder for that amount.
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Post by jokker on Jan 14, 2024 18:00:29 GMT
Great goal , but didn't do a lot else. Prefer the Korean lad. I like Bae a lot. However, he hasn’t yet scored in 19 games despite playing in attacking positions. He’s also only made 2 assists. Has he played 19 x 90 minutes to justify that criticism...
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Post by nott1 on Jan 14, 2024 18:22:19 GMT
Baker has a strike rate of about a goal every 4.2 games, the same as Campbell Impressive for a midfielder Especially since a lot of those games were played with an injury!
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 14, 2024 18:45:51 GMT
I like Bae a lot. However, he hasn’t yet scored in 19 games despite playing in attacking positions. He’s also only made 2 assists. Has he played 19 x 90 minutes to justify that criticism... It doesn’t matter. We don’t score a lot of goals. He’s an attacking midfielder that is a part of that problem. I think he’s going to be a great player for us but if you are on the pitch to score/create, you need to do that. He eventually will do and then there will quite rightly be a selection pressure for him.
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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 14, 2024 20:18:45 GMT
I just wish the club and Chief Coach (as he is called nowadays) would put an end to these media reports I keep seeing saying we/they are prepared to accept offers for him. We could not buy a player of his ability for the reported £2Mil, as they don't exist.⚓ He as good as did when he said Baker was going to be an important player for the rest of the season. To be fair I don't think managers take as much notice as fans of the rumour mill. They know what is going on.
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Post by dirtclod on Jan 14, 2024 20:19:09 GMT
Baker has a strike rate of about a goal every 4.2 games, the same as Campbell Impressive for a midfielder Especially since a lot of those games were played with an injury! That's what I recall - he played on through injury. Answers any "attitude" issue. Top that off, he's a rarity in our league. I think Schu has a clue regarding the need for player-rotation as we settle in to a consistent formation or two. No reason to run anyone ragged and risk injuries. Sometimes with a Baker you have to gently "force" a rest once in a while.
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Post by numpty40 on Jan 14, 2024 21:59:54 GMT
He's a talent but he's played for 10 clubs over the past 10 years. Seems to have real purple patches when he looks class and then blows cold and looks fucking awful. The goal he scored Saturday was top drawer but he too frequently goes missing. If a decent offer comes in we should take it.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 15, 2024 0:38:14 GMT
Nut if it's not to be Baker, who are we going to have as the new fall guy, we have to have someone to slate? I've given Neil and overstay ...
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Post by hotpot on Jan 15, 2024 5:58:18 GMT
Rattles my confidence every time I see Campbell and Gayle included in the match day squad. They are abject failures from the last cock-up regime and it is imperative that they are moved on in this transfer window.
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Post by rowleyscfc on Jan 15, 2024 9:38:10 GMT
Baker is 100% a starter for me, only Midfielder we have that i feel like they're going pop up with a goal, best set piece taker weve got pens, freekicks and corners, Junho is a far better footballer, id play them both personally, Cundle looked steady also
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 15, 2024 9:53:48 GMT
He's a talent but he's played for 10 clubs over the past 10 years. Seems to have real purple patches when he looks class and then blows cold and looks fucking awful. The goal he scored Saturday was top drawer but he too frequently goes missing. If a decent offer comes in we should take it. He's been contracted to one club, and was loaned out regularly as per the Chelsea model. That's different to a player being signed and moved on by a load of clubs......
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Post by gingerninja on Jan 15, 2024 9:58:05 GMT
At long last the midfield has a bit of fluidity about it. Let's embrace that and look forward to better things ahead.
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Post by skip on Jan 15, 2024 9:58:23 GMT
433
Iverson Willmot, McNally, er, two others, Burger, Baker and Cundle in midfield, Juno, Campbell and Mmae up front.
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