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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2023 19:31:07 GMT
I agree with this. There is absolutely nothing to make you think Eustace has abetter chance of making a success if it than Gally. Neither have any real managerial pedigree. Both might make it work and both might not. It is all we have to hope for while the current lot are in charge - that one of the mediocre British no-hopers come good. I just think he is at least getting a tune out of them and should know where we need strengthening in the window - whereas Eustace will take time and may not bring in the right players, which could be a disaster. These players are not as bad as they are being made to look with the ultra negative tactics both Neil and now Gally use. Whoever plays up front is completely isolated because none of the midfielders make runs past them or get close enough to support them.
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Post by stokefc on Dec 17, 2023 19:33:26 GMT
Do we want to progress or is everybody happy languishing , then again we'll probably be languishing with whoever we appoint
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 17, 2023 19:36:48 GMT
Reckon Paul could develop them into a decent team.
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 17, 2023 19:49:30 GMT
Reckon Paul could develop them into a decent team. There's been a definite improvement in the 10 days he's been working with the squad and he actually looks like he takes an interest in the game rather than standing there with both hands thrust deep into his trackie bottoms oblivious to what is happening on the pitch
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Post by Roger Everyone on Dec 17, 2023 19:57:40 GMT
He has done ok, we have been lucky in the two matches he has overseen.
Wouldn't want to see him doing the job full time.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 17, 2023 19:59:55 GMT
Think he's doing alright, the last two performances at least shows he's working on shape and discipline on the training ground. The players seem to be on board, I'd rather have Gallagher at the moment than Eustace. That was what I noticed, the shape of the team was far better. I mean we were still shit and I don’t think he will improve individual players but he’s clearly seen what’s been going wrong and decided to do something about it. Certainly not one for the long term but he’s improved the set up undoubtedly. As for players not playing for Neil, I’m not sure that’s the case, I just think he very quickly lost the plot when he realised we were being dragged into a relegation scrap
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Post by OldStokie on Dec 17, 2023 20:00:55 GMT
Would have had 4 points from 2 games had it not been for that last minute catastrophe against Swansea. At least he's stopped the rot.
OS.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Dec 17, 2023 20:03:45 GMT
He will have a 3 match unbeaten run, 2 draws and a win, on his tab after we have beaten Millwall. Honestly, if we are to make a Eustace/Heckingbottom style low key appointment we may as well hire Gally and save a few quid. I mean at least he appears to be broadly sane which has become my minimum requirement for a Stoke manager. Just my 2 cents worth. Not for me. His team selections have been a bit odd, lacking creativity, Bae out of position, inexperienced. We need a fresh approach
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Post by dirtygary69 on Dec 17, 2023 20:10:57 GMT
Would have had 4 points from 2 games had it not been for that last minute catastrophe against Swansea. At least he's stopped the rot. OS. Was going to post the same thing. We were the same today as Swansea were against us. We should have won on Tuesday and probably lost today but that’s just the way it is. He’s done OK but we need someone in for Millwall.
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Post by blackpoolred on Dec 17, 2023 20:12:43 GMT
It is all we have to hope for while the current lot are in charge - that one of the mediocre British no-hopers come good. I just think he is at least getting a tune out of them and should know where we need strengthening in the window - whereas Eustace will take time and may not bring in the right players, which could be a disaster. These players are not as bad as they are being made to look with the ultra negative tactics both Neil and now Gally use. Whoever plays up front is completely isolated because none of the midfielders make runs past them or get close enough to support them. All about opinions - It's a very poor squad of players for me. The point we are making though is there any point in appointing somebody like Eustace - who reeks of mediocre and probably not going to pull any trees up - or give a guy a chance who we know has his team motivated and who has a better chance of knowing where we need to improve in January and might, by chance, end up being a good manager(nobody knows at the moment - it's about all we can hope for) - one more bad window and I think we are in genuine trouble, left to a poor manager who has no experience of building a team and also does not know the squad of players very well could be a massive risk - Gally will also be a risk, but on balance less so than Eustace?
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Post by stokefanone on Dec 17, 2023 20:17:21 GMT
HE DROPPED JUNIOR AND PLAYED HOEVER INSTEAD? ENOUGH SAID!
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Dec 17, 2023 20:44:02 GMT
HE DROPPED JUNIOR AND PLAYED HOEVER INSTEAD? ENOUGH SAID! No he didn't he dropped Junior and played Jun-Ho instead. Why let facts get in the way of an agenda heh? Gouranga.
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Post by Gods on Dec 17, 2023 20:48:22 GMT
I agree with this. There is absolutely nothing to make you think Eustace has abetter chance of making a success if it than Gally. Neither have any real managerial pedigree. Both might make it work and both might not. Eustace has a managerial career though, Gods. You can’t just close your eyes and pretend it doesn’t exist. He only has 15 months at Birmingham City at football league level doesn't he? I think he briefly did non-league at Kidderminster before that perhaps.
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Post by baystokie on Dec 17, 2023 21:04:39 GMT
His set up for both games has been negative shite and it’s not something I’m interested in seeing until the end of the season. If it keeps us in the Championship, many would be quite happy - if he goes for broke and charges into Division 1, will the fans be happy with such a football philosophy even though we get relegated?
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Post by Block 22 on Dec 17, 2023 21:24:08 GMT
Eustace has a managerial career though, Gods. You can’t just close your eyes and pretend it doesn’t exist. He only has 15 months at Birmingham City at football league level doesn't he? I think he briefly did non-league at Kidderminster before that perhaps. Stoke fans obsessed with sentiment. He has very little experience and when you look at the statistics of his very little experience, they’re abysmal. Take the sentiment out of it, on statistics and playing style alone, had he not played for us, the idea of getting him in as manager would be unanimously rejected. He’s so far from what we need right now as a football club, especially with this group of players. It would be a terrible appointment.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 17, 2023 21:25:01 GMT
Mid week was utter shite.
Not watched today but it sounds like it was generally awful but a good point.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Dec 17, 2023 21:30:37 GMT
His set up for both games has been negative shite and it’s not something I’m interested in seeing until the end of the season. If it keeps us in the Championship, many would be quite happy - if he goes for broke and charges into Division 1, will the fans be happy with such a football philosophy even though we get relegated? There’s no need to set the team up so negatively and it’s awful to watch. I want to see us play positively and it’s possible to do that and have us avoid relegation.
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Post by thisisouryear on Dec 17, 2023 21:38:36 GMT
He was never going to turn us into Brazil overnight but he's picking up points. He seems steady which is a big a compliment as we can give for now. He knows the players strengths and weaknesses better than anyone and the players are at least trying for him. If we don't go foreign or for Scott Parker then sticking with Gally wouldn't be too bad for now. Given time I reckon Gally would improve the team attack wise. I'd prefer him over Eustace who I just feel will be a big mistake.
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 17, 2023 21:42:29 GMT
Unbeaten run of 2 games…….doing very well by Alex Neil standards….. Draw every match = relegation. This team are going nowhere except downwards until we find a way of creating and scoring goals. Today we fluked a goal to add to our collection of penalty and own goal. Bonham saved us today from another defeat, on another day he is dubbed the villain. We need to appoint a miracle worker to turn around this team; only Santo has demonstrated he is capable. I've a horrible feeling we are going to have yet another appointment like Lambert, Jones, Neil or Rowett and go down. MON might have worked out initially, but he was ground down by his player inheritance, the pandemic, injuries, no money, and eventually had all he could give sucked out of him.
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Post by thornestein on Dec 17, 2023 21:42:59 GMT
we’ve been ok , nothing more nothing less , we need better
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Dec 17, 2023 21:51:12 GMT
Would have had 4 points from 2 games had it not been for that last minute catastrophe against Swansea. At least he's stopped the rot. OS. Was going to post the same thing. We were the same today as Swansea were against us. We should have won on Tuesday and probably lost today but that’s just the way it is. He’s done OK but we need someone in for Millwall. Aunt would be my uncle…
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Post by chiswickpotter on Dec 17, 2023 22:13:54 GMT
Two ludicrous selections, players out of position and Maaee completely isolated up front (though he did well in both games). Today was like WBA were Man City given how negative we were for over an hour. When we put them under pressure, like most teams in this division, they stumbled. He should have gone out to blow Swansea away not contain them. Sooner we move on the better
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Post by Gods on Dec 17, 2023 22:20:59 GMT
He has done ok, we have been lucky in the two matches he has overseen. Wouldn't want to see him doing the job full time. Have we? Had the ref played 6 minutes over time rather than 7 minutes against Swansea we'd be another 2 points better off. I certainly see that as one that got away. For sure we caught a break today where we looked very much 2nd best, but we hung tough as the tennis players say.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 17, 2023 22:26:29 GMT
I think he’s been shit. A penalty and a cross that went in have been the only two attacks we’ve had in two games. You have to worry about the sanity of some of our fans reading this thread. They aspire to misery.
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Post by emretezzy on Dec 17, 2023 22:29:05 GMT
Thompson left wing back.
Wank
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Dec 17, 2023 22:33:10 GMT
He’s likely to move on once the new man is announced isn’t he? Neil brought him in didn’t he? A new broom will likely sweep him away.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 17, 2023 22:33:55 GMT
Mid week was utter shite. Not watched today but it sounds like it was generally awful but a good point. No it wasn't. It wasn't great but it wasn't utter shite. Utter shite was 4 days earlier v Sheff Weds.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 17, 2023 22:39:01 GMT
He’s likely to move on once the new man is announced isn’t he? Neil brought him in didn’t he? A new broom will likely sweep him away. That’s a relief wouldn’t want him whispering any advice in the new bloke’s ear if the last two games are anything to go by. Any chance Blyth Spartans or similar have a vacancy and a lucrative 3rd round tie against a Premier League team, he knows just the set up.
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Post by Pottermr on Dec 17, 2023 22:57:13 GMT
The players are certainly putting in a shift for him workload wise. But I am confident we will have a new manager announced for the Millwall game. That’s good of them
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 17, 2023 23:04:54 GMT
Mid week was utter shite. Not watched today but it sounds like it was generally awful but a good point. No it wasn't. It wasn't great but it wasn't utter shite. Utter shite was 4 days earlier v Sheff Weds. Midweek was absolutely utter shite. A negative set up, a negative performance and a negative result against a really crap team. It was bloody awful.
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