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Post by stokeson on Dec 12, 2023 9:08:55 GMT
Proud moment for Ryan and his family tonight. Leading the team out in a new role. Lets give him a shout out...................
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Dec 12, 2023 9:13:11 GMT
I agree mate but not sure how proud he will feel leading those gutless players out compared to what he has led out in the past.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Dec 12, 2023 9:25:33 GMT
Let's hope he doesn't drop the cones! He's not actually leading them out is he?
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Post by stokeson on Dec 12, 2023 10:08:23 GMT
Let's hope he doesn't drop the cones! He's not actually leading them out is he? Wish he was. No him and Gallagher in the dugout...
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Post by baconburger on Dec 12, 2023 11:00:57 GMT
Let's hope he doesn't drop the cones! He's not actually leading them out is he? Wish he was. No him and Gallagher in the dugout... Where do people get these ideas he’s not even No2 to Gallagher that’s Alex Morris.
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Post by skip on Dec 12, 2023 11:08:31 GMT
I agree mate but not sure how proud he will feel leading those gutless players out compared to what he has led out in the past. In the relegation season, one suspects he wasn't too proud of some of the players lined up behind him either.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 12, 2023 11:14:47 GMT
I agree mate but not sure how proud he will feel leading those gutless players out compared to what he has led out in the past. In the relegation season, one suspects he wasn't too proud of some of the players lined up behind him either. Why how many games did he play ?
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Post by skip on Dec 12, 2023 11:19:31 GMT
In the relegation season, one suspects he wasn't too proud of some of the players lined up behind him either. Why how many games did he play ? Haven't a clue, I'm hopeless with statistics. I do remember being at the game he put his back out though.
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Post by Bagwash on Dec 12, 2023 11:37:19 GMT
In the relegation season, one suspects he wasn't too proud of some of the players lined up behind him either. Why how many games did he play ? You got something against Shawcross matey because your posts on this thread are not very complimentary.
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Post by wherty on Dec 12, 2023 11:43:50 GMT
Wish he was. No him and Gallagher in the dugout... Where do people get these ideas he’s not even No2 to Gallagher that’s Alex Morris. He's number 4 behind Gallagher, Morris and Gould.
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Post by senojbor on Dec 12, 2023 11:49:32 GMT
Why shouldn't the next manager be Shawcross? He loves the club, played nearly all of his career at Stoke and seems a no nonsense type of guy. We don't want anyone who just treats it as another job I hope he applies
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Post by chamberlain on Dec 12, 2023 11:50:41 GMT
Where do people get these ideas he’s not even No2 to Gallagher that’s Alex Morris. He's number 4 behind Gallagher, Morris and Gould. How the fuck is Gould in front of him
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Post by mistergumby on Dec 12, 2023 12:03:15 GMT
Why shouldn't the next manager be Shawcross? He loves the club, played nearly all of his career at Stoke and seems a no nonsense type of guy. We don't want anyone who just treats it as another job I hope he applies Honest question: Why should the next manager be Shawcross? What's he achieved in management to justify being appointed to the position at such an important time? Sorry Rob - and I know your a massive fan of the Pulis era and everything that entailed - but surely, surely we must appoint the best qualified man (woman/other) and not act purely on sentiment for the perceived superpowers of former players as so many Stoke fans seem to do.
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Post by cvillestokie on Dec 12, 2023 12:04:45 GMT
Why shouldn't the next manager be Shawcross? He loves the club, played nearly all of his career at Stoke and seems a no nonsense type of guy. We don't want anyone who just treats it as another job I hope he applies It is a job. You don’t have to love the club to succeed in your position, you have to have the right skill set and desire.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Dec 12, 2023 12:10:34 GMT
Let's hope he's brought his boots with him.
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Post by lordb on Dec 12, 2023 12:10:45 GMT
He's number 4 behind Gallagher, Morris and Gould. How the fuck is Gould in front of him Because he has more experience as a coach
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Post by Veritas on Dec 12, 2023 12:30:18 GMT
Why shouldn't the next manager be Shawcross? He loves the club, played nearly all of his career at Stoke and seems a no nonsense type of guy. We don't want anyone who just treats it as another job I hope he applies No chance
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Post by moon on Dec 12, 2023 12:32:18 GMT
Why shouldn't the next manager be Shawcross? He loves the club, played nearly all of his career at Stoke and seems a no nonsense type of guy. We don't want anyone who just treats it as another job I hope he applies I don't think Shawcross is cut out to be a manager, loved the guy as a player, but he never seemed to enjoy talking to the media and on the pitch I don't remember him being that vocal - he was more of a player who set the standard and led by example.
IMO it would be absolutely mental to give the job to an ex player who hasn't managed before like Shawcross / SJW / Whelan etc. For me, it's completely irrelevant whether the new manager has any previous connection with Stoke - but it's important they make those connections once in the job - Macari and Pulis are both great examples here.
I don't believe any of the managers we've hired so far have treated it as just another job, people can slate AN for the results and the football (apart from a handful of games where things looked promising) but I genuinely believe he cared and wanted to succeed here, the same goes for MON and Mad Nath.
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Post by danceswithclams on Dec 12, 2023 12:33:19 GMT
Why shouldn't the next manager be Shawcross? He loves the club, played nearly all of his career at Stoke and seems a no nonsense type of guy. We don't want anyone who just treats it as another job I hope he applies Honest question: Why should the next manager be Shawcross? What's he achieved in management to justify being appointed to the position at such an important time? Sorry Rob - and I know your a massive fan of the Pulis era and everything that entailed - but surely, surely we must appoint the best qualified man (woman/other) and not act purely on sentiment for the perceived superpowers of former players as so many Stoke fans seem to do. Knows the club.
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Post by DansViews on Dec 12, 2023 12:37:26 GMT
I’d hate him to be manager - purely for the fact that if it went wrong, I’d hate for things to be sour. He is a club legend - prefer it to stay that way.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Dec 12, 2023 12:43:44 GMT
Shawcross for Manager with Aaron Ramsey as his assistant.
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Post by jokker on Dec 12, 2023 13:06:25 GMT
Why shouldn't the next manager be Shawcross? He loves the club, played nearly all of his career at Stoke and seems a no nonsense type of guy. We don't want anyone who just treats it as another job I hope he applies Honest question: Why should the next manager be Shawcross? What's he achieved in management to justify being appointed to the position at such an important time? Sorry Rob - and I know your a massive fan of the Pulis era and everything that entailed - but surely, surely we must appoint the best qualified man (woman/other) and not act purely on sentiment for the perceived superpowers of former players as so many Stoke fans seem to do. You don't have to have glorified achievements in management to become a successful manager. Beckenbauer had never managed at club level when he was appointed German manager and he made them world champions - he didn't even have the coaching badges, so they had to appoint a young nobody to formally be the coach. There are plenty other examples. What matters is that you have the personality to lead the team to better things, set them straight one one or two things (or in our case 100 things) of what to do when in crisis, and hopefully make them aware exactly what is expected when you are a Stoke player, the club culture as it were He'd obviously answer to some of those things, but loving a club doesn't necessarily make you a good manager, it might even hold you back from making key decisions such as telling the board that they are too weak to run the club properly. I don't really know the quality of his coaching skills, as far as I know he was coaching at Stoke to learn more about that side of the game. What we do know is that he made himself available for managing a club last season, and since then, not a single league club has been willing to take him on, not even as AM. Maybe they just don't like his BO or maybe they don't believe he's got what it takes. Making him fourth choice caretaker, behind three others with no or limited managing experience, doesn't help. I can't help but feel that this is a missed opportunity to set him on his way in management, but of course it's not about Shawcross, it's about scfc glancing downwards, so it's not really worth taking that risk. I'm not a fan of Shawcross post-PL. I remember watching him in some academy games a few seasons ago, as he was making his then latest comeback. Playing along Forrester and Taylor, I couldn't help but notice that they - and the other defenders - played one set of tactics and he played another. In other words he was disobeying team orders, but Rooster was too polite to call him out on it. It tells me nothing for certain, but it does hint at a man who is tone deaf to other people.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 12, 2023 13:06:33 GMT
Why how many games did he play ? You got something against Shawcross matey because your posts on this thread are not very complimentary. Not against Shawcross at all just the posters who are like get Ryan back get Whelan back get Walters back get Rory back. It’s retarded.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Dec 12, 2023 13:06:52 GMT
I’d hate him to be manager - purely for the fact that if it went wrong, I’d hate for things to be sour. He is a club legend - prefer it to stay that way. Did Denis Smith say he would never manage Stoke for the same reasons.
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Post by DansViews on Dec 12, 2023 13:07:56 GMT
I’d hate him to be manager - purely for the fact that if it went wrong, I’d hate for things to be sour. He is a club legend - prefer it to stay that way. Did Denis Smith say he would never manage Stoke for the same reasons. Could have possibly done - I’ve not heard it myself but it makes sense.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Dec 12, 2023 13:08:11 GMT
Wish he was. No him and Gallagher in the dugout... Where do people get these ideas he’s not even No2 to Gallagher that’s Alex Morris. Hes OUR no 1 as things stand - seems to rile you for some odd reason - GO RYAN !!! Edit - and no, I don't want him to be the new manager ......
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Post by jokker on Dec 12, 2023 13:16:55 GMT
I’d hate him to be manager - purely for the fact that if it went wrong, I’d hate for things to be sour. He is a club legend - prefer it to stay that way. Did Denis Smith say he would never manage Stoke for the same reasons. He did. I don't know whether he was actually offered the position and turned it down, but he repeated his stance on many occasions.
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Post by mistergumby on Dec 12, 2023 13:43:08 GMT
Honest question: Why should the next manager be Shawcross? What's he achieved in management to justify being appointed to the position at such an important time? Sorry Rob - and I know your a massive fan of the Pulis era and everything that entailed - but surely, surely we must appoint the best qualified man (woman/other) and not act purely on sentiment for the perceived superpowers of former players as so many Stoke fans seem to do. Knows the club. So what about Muniesa (who's apparently rolling up tonight) being given the job? Conoce el club.
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Post by hoppo96 on Dec 12, 2023 13:51:01 GMT
Why shouldn't the next manager be Shawcross? He loves the club, played nearly all of his career at Stoke and seems a no nonsense type of guy. We don't want anyone who just treats it as another job I hope he applies because we don't want to be relegated to League One
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Post by hoppo96 on Dec 12, 2023 13:53:39 GMT
If the assistant u18 coach was not an ex club legend there's no way they'd be promoted to the temporary coaching staff.
Think you have to accept he's not gonna manage here, or anyone else really. It's better to find out this way then LFC fans realising Gerrard is rubbish
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