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Post by beautifulnorth on Dec 11, 2023 11:22:26 GMT
Not sure who the new gaffer will be but would love Jon Walters in the management team. They could learn by example. How to maximise their talent.
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Post by andystokey on Dec 11, 2023 11:22:50 GMT
I haven’t got a problem with us thinking big, I just haven’t a clue if it’s realistic. Potter will be well aware he ain’t getting a top Premier League job on anything like his Chelsea salary but would certainly walk into a bottom half club at that level. Time will tell. I see the only attractive clubs that might need a new manager this year in his range Newcastle (they will go foreign) Man U (wouldn't be popular at OT) Forest (maybe)
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Post by milky on Dec 11, 2023 11:23:04 GMT
Let's put it this way ,if it does come off I take everything back I've said about John Coates and will proclaim him the World's greatest living Englishman
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 11, 2023 11:23:20 GMT
Any manager who gets Stoke turned round and heading in the right direction, top 6 finish etc is going to vastly improve their CV, given what has gone before. Potter is an intelligent man, like many say, is a rich man already. Our project he might see as his holy grail and one where he would get the most kudos, rather than a "safe" premier league lower league club?.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Dec 11, 2023 11:24:21 GMT
I agree And let's bring in Rubin Dias , de bruyne and Haaland too . Haalands injured mate.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 11, 2023 11:24:50 GMT
If we sell this to him well there is a chance. He knows we have the cash does he have the ambition (or stupidity) to build a club from here.... If he has the ambition he'll take a Prem job instead, coming here wouldn't be ambition 😂
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Post by skip on Dec 11, 2023 11:25:26 GMT
Has it been allowed to emerge in this way so we can say "Look, we really tried" when we end up with someone meh - or do we, after initial feelers, think there's a slight chance? Hmm. I'd love Potter to be our manager, but in reality, until the People At The Top realise that the organisational structure needs to change, then there is no point getting him, even if that were remotely achievable. Graham Potter would prove one thing - that he isn't a miracle worker and once the excitement of his acquisition has worn off, he'd be just yet another manager spending half his time preparing the team for a match and the other half being given jobs to do that are not his responsibility. Perversely, you'd need someone as high profile as Potter to screw up for Coates Jr. to perhaps notice that it's not the manager you get in, its the job you ask the manager to do that is the problem.
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Post by banksy1art on Dec 11, 2023 11:26:27 GMT
If we sell this to him well there is a chance. He knows we have the cash does he have the ambition (or stupidity) to build a club from here.... loads of investment, new premier league level training ground upgrades, he will have unlimited backing and would likely be on very good wages. But would he be willing to drop down to the champ
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Post by stokeson on Dec 11, 2023 11:27:15 GMT
If we sell this to him well there is a chance. He knows we have the cash does he have the ambition (or stupidity) to build a club from here.... If he has the ambition he'll take a Prem job instead, coming here wouldn't be ambition 😂 I mean to build a club from scratch in his own image to take us to the prem.He doesnt need the money but he might like a challenge...
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Post by andystokey on Dec 11, 2023 11:27:24 GMT
Having ridiculed all those who suggested that Potter was even remotely a possibility I massively hope this is true & it comes off one poster, not without reason, stated we shouldn't appoint former players but he played for us nearly 30 years ago, I think the concern re ex players don't apply here others have pointed out the lack of gaols at Brighton but imo that does not tell the story, they made oodles of chances , up to that point Potter was easily Brighton's most successful top flight manager (fair play to De Zerbi for adding those goals) If we land Potter its nothing other than sensational An interesting point of view I hadn't previously considered lordy. Does Stafford count in our favour?
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Post by greystokie on Dec 11, 2023 11:28:50 GMT
It's just filler, nothing more:
"Stoke City are expected to have Graham Potter as the highly-ambitious top target on their list of potential new managers"
Doesn't say by whom this is expected and there is no quotation from anyone linked to the club. A few on here expect it but most, I think, consider it to be highly unlikely.
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Post by milky on Dec 11, 2023 11:32:31 GMT
Has it been allowed to emerge in this way so we can say "Look, we really tried" when we end up with someone meh - or do we, after initial feelers, think there's a slight chance? Hmm. I'd love Potter to be our manager, but in reality, until the People At The Top realise that the organisational structure needs to change, then there is no point getting him, even if that were remotely achievable. Graham Potter would prove one thing - that he isn't a miracle worker and once the lovely and excitement of his acquisition has worn off, he'd just yet another spending half his time preparing the team for a match and the other half being given jobs to do that are not his responsibility. Perversely, you'd need someone as high profile as Potter to screw up for Coates Jr. to perhaps notice that it's the manager you get in, its the job you ask the manager to do that is the problem. There's a lot of truth in that . Let's look at the 4 managers since relegation. Rowett- Apparently wanted out after weeks and ended up falling out with the fans. Jones - Almost had a breakdown O Neii- towards the end you could visibly see he had aged 20 years. Neil - Buggered off to Dubai away from it all as soon as the opportunity arose. The days of old school hands on everything managers ,the likes of Ferguson, Wenger ,Moyes ,those that created dynasties are long gone and the new breed can't handle the pressure of it all.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2023 11:32:43 GMT
Absolutely no chance of this happening in a million years.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Dec 11, 2023 11:36:32 GMT
I agree And let's bring in Rubin Dias , de bruyne and Haaland too . Haalands injured mate. And De Bruyne, what a silly post.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Dec 11, 2023 11:38:05 GMT
It's just filler, nothing more: "Stoke City are expected to have Graham Potter as the highly-ambitious top target on their list of potential new managers" Doesn't say by whom this is expected and there is no quotation from anyone linked to the club. A few on here expect it but most, I think, consider it to be highly unlikely. Yeah but let me dream for 48 hours or so 😆
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Post by trincostokie on Dec 11, 2023 11:38:14 GMT
If Carlsberg did footie managers...
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Dec 11, 2023 11:45:51 GMT
Very ambitious that. Fair play to you lot if you manage to get him in. Don't worry, we won't. To me, it stinks of the club throwing a bone to the local rag to get the fans back on board before we announce a Dean Smith or John Eustace.
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Post by terrybovril on Dec 11, 2023 11:48:32 GMT
As far as potters go, there’s more chance of Josiah Wedgwood coming back from the dead and signing a contract.
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Post by andystokey on Dec 11, 2023 11:49:32 GMT
I'd love Potter to be our manager, but in reality, until the People At The Top realise that the organisational structure needs to change, then there is no point getting him, even if that were remotely achievable. Graham Potter would prove one thing - that he isn't a miracle worker and once the lovely and excitement of his acquisition has worn off, he'd just yet another spending half his time preparing the team for a match and the other half being given jobs to do that are not his responsibility. Perversely, you'd need someone as high profile as Potter to screw up for Coates Jr. to perhaps notice that it's the manager you get in, its the job you ask the manager to do that is the problem. There's a lot of truth in that . Let's look at the 4 managers since relegation. Rowett- Apparently wanted out after weeks and ended up falling out with the fans. Jones - Almost had a breakdown O Neii- towards the end you could visibly see he had aged 20 years. Neil - Buggered off to Dubai away from it all as soon as the opportunity arose. The days of old school hands on everything managers ,the likes of Ferguson, Wenger ,Moyes ,those that created dynasties are long gone and the new breed can't handle the pressure of it all. As unrealistic as this is. Don't mix Potter in with that lot. He's a culture builder and he could absolutely change this football club. I saw him close up at BHA and he was different gravy. Here is a good elevator pitch for his philosophy. The end of this article below is a good insight into his personality. Maybe the "gung ho", "chest beating" Stokies wouldn't like it but that hasn't worked either. www.goal.com/en-gb/lists/chelsea-regret-sacking-graham-potter-destined-succeed-nightmare-stamford-bridge/blt64f2aea392c3f392#cs7b00f33b8d26ca3eIt's a good representation of the bloke I saw and I liked it, but he's not everyone's cuppa. Certainly wasn't going to wash with Chelsea and at Cobham. Someone "like a Graham Potter" could sort out CW culture and could take JCs good intentions in the right direction. None of the names above ever tried to do that, on fact didn't think it was their job.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Dec 11, 2023 11:49:38 GMT
Graham Potters Potters.....we can but dream
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Dec 11, 2023 11:49:57 GMT
I'd love Potter to be our manager, but in reality, until the People At The Top realise that the organisational structure needs to change, then there is no point getting him, even if that were remotely achievable. Graham Potter would prove one thing - that he isn't a miracle worker and once the lovely and excitement of his acquisition has worn off, he'd just yet another spending half his time preparing the team for a match and the other half being given jobs to do that are not his responsibility. Perversely, you'd need someone as high profile as Potter to screw up for Coates Jr. to perhaps notice that it's the manager you get in, its the job you ask the manager to do that is the problem. There's a lot of truth in that . Let's look at the 4 managers since relegation. Rowett- Apparently wanted out after weeks and ended up falling out with the fans. Jones - Almost had a breakdown O Neii- towards the end you could visibly see he had aged 20 years. Neil - Buggered off to Dubai away from it all as soon as the opportunity arose. The days of old school hands on everything managers ,the likes of Ferguson, Wenger ,Moyes ,those that created dynasties are long gone and the new breed can't handle the pressure of it all. Moyes won a European Trophy 6 months ago.
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Post by questionable on Dec 11, 2023 11:55:59 GMT
Very ambitious that. Fair play to you lot if you manage to get him in. There’s absolutely no chance with our owners and btw thanks for AN 🤬🤬🤬🤬
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Post by questionable on Dec 11, 2023 11:58:07 GMT
Not sure who the new gaffer will be but would love Jon Walters in the management team. They could learn by example. How to maximise their talent. I follow SJW on Twitter, asked him loads of stoke stuff but never replies which surprises me, to busy talking about the premiership stuff.
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Post by J-Roar on Dec 11, 2023 11:59:04 GMT
YOU COULD HAVE HAD HIM 5 YEARS AGO! CHRIST!! Nobody knew if he’d have been any good. He was managing in an awful league. We knew Lambert and Rowett were no good.
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Post by milky on Dec 11, 2023 11:59:12 GMT
There's a lot of truth in that . Let's look at the 4 managers since relegation. Rowett- Apparently wanted out after weeks and ended up falling out with the fans. Jones - Almost had a breakdown O Neii- towards the end you could visibly see he had aged 20 years. Neil - Buggered off to Dubai away from it all as soon as the opportunity arose. The days of old school hands on everything managers ,the likes of Ferguson, Wenger ,Moyes ,those that created dynasties are long gone and the new breed can't handle the pressure of it all. Moyes won a European Trophy 6 months ago. He did indeed and is pretty much last man standing of that type I'd say and another ,if you believe what has been said ,we allowed to slip through the net by giving Hughes an extra 4 months after a flukey 1 0 away win.
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Post by J-Roar on Dec 11, 2023 11:59:56 GMT
Knows the club...
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Post by bingbang on Dec 11, 2023 12:01:58 GMT
I spoke to him at Leeds in our first game back in the championship. He thought he was going to get the job then but internal politics turned against him.
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Post by stokeson on Dec 11, 2023 12:03:51 GMT
Can see the headlines as we win the FA cup next year " Potter wins the Pot."....
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Post by andystokey on Dec 11, 2023 12:04:26 GMT
I know this is tongue in cheek. However, what worries me however is that I doubt any of the candidates know what they are walking into. Whoever it is will struggle to just "coach" their way out of trouble.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 11, 2023 12:07:05 GMT
This board is hilarious. The local paper with a reasonable insight into the club suggests we're setting our cap at Potter and everyone screams 'made up bollocks'. Some random nobody on a half arsed website with no obvious connections to the club suggests we 'might' have 'contacted' Dean Smith and it's believed hook line and sinker and the club is 'shit' and has 'no ambition'. You really couldn't make it up.
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